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03:10:25@JAA looks for a feature in a software and finds a commit about it, read the commit message...
03:10:28<@JAA>> I regret doing this so much, it's fucking garbage.
03:10:30<@JAA>Well, that seems promising!
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03:30:38<steering> Dango360: I assume you probably have to spend $100+ to ge enough rewards points though, yes? :P
03:32:13<steering>ymgve: yeah, it's reasonably unlikely that there'll even be a critical vulnerability in the next year to begin with, and then it has to be exploitable on a NAT'd computer that someone uses to browse their Facebook and maybe do some online shopping or whatever
03:33:18<Dango360>steering: quite the opposite
03:33:29<Dango360>do a bunch of bing searches LOL
03:33:34<steering>LOL oh ok
03:35:41<Dango360>their rewards program is strange in general; get 15 points for clicking on a button that searches for "Meatless chili recipe"
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04:26:31<nicolas17>https://oldbytes.space/@arclight/115062715325245483
04:26:41<nicolas17>someone bought a cool old tech book for cheap, then they opened it and it had an "if found return to Grace Hopper" label?!
04:30:26<@JAA>Neat!
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10:41:36<nstrom|m>Very cool
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12:15:25<justauser|m>>it's also about "EOL" meaning that other software starts dropping support for it pretty quickly, usually
12:15:25<justauser|m>Firefox still provides security support for Win7. And most of other software just doesn't belong to the Internet, even if they try to go there. Firewalls FTW!
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12:41:40<anonymoususer852>If only Microsoft cared it as much as Mozilla does. :p
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13:58:06<steering>I miss Windows 7. I miss XP more though.
13:59:57<steering>Give me XP, with modern software, and better search (start menu / files / etc - ok yes like windows 10 but without all the crap)
14:00:13<steering>(or better yet with XP software that still works)
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15:19:06<nukke>Give me 7 with 98's sounds, XP's customizability (Linux - tier ricing), 10's Explorer and 11's gaming features
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15:52:12<joepie91|m>justauser: "most other software just doesn't belong to the internet" and similar opinionated 'nerd views' do nothing to prevent either large-scale compromises *or* a massive pile of e-waste, unfortunately.
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16:51:45<steering>nukke: yeah ok that's pretty fiar
16:51:47<steering>fair*
16:51:57<steering>although you can use whatever sounds you want on whatever windows you want :P
16:52:58<steering>I remember getting some pirated version of... I think it was XP.. that included a bunch of really wild themes (and other tools, all the desktop widgets and such)
16:53:21<steering>on the one hand it was really cool but on the other hand what are the odds it has a keylogger or something :D
16:53:23<nukke>Windows 10/11 don't have startup sounds
16:53:36<nukke>XP Black Edition
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16:53:52<nukke>The GOAT OS
16:53:58<steering>mmh yes but no
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16:54:26<nukke>I remember custom XP versions gave me better fps in Crysis
16:54:33<steering>the one I'm thinking of had full-on taskbar replacements as well, I don't think Black Edition ever had that
16:54:37<steering>LOL
16:55:01<steering>(like, "your graphical shell is no longer explorer.exe")
16:58:58<steering>Honestly I would really love someone to just say "screw copyright" and make *any* pre-Windows 8 as a linux DE
16:59:40<steering>Like just reproduce the whole thing, taskbar, start menu (but it has to still allow type-to-search of course), control panel, tray icons (network, volume)...
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17:00:14<steering>Anything from 98 to 7 (95 is an option too I guess but ew)
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17:04:48<steering>It's been almost a decade since I switched to Windows 10, wow. (And I think like 6 years since I switched to Linux again, not sure)
17:06:22<Yakov>if you thought windows 10 sucks, it doesn't compare with the amount of shit you have to put up with in windows 11
17:12:55<steering>Yeah, I still have 11 on my laptop, and have to deal with it at work (not on my computer but on other people's).
17:13:39<steering>Thank god I'm on linux so I only have to deal with my lock screen freezing and my graphics driver segfaulting :)
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17:21:40<nukke>I have windows 11 exclusively for gaming. Also gotta use it for work
17:22:07<nukke>I think IT filters my weekly requests for a Linux workstation :(
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17:35:04<steering>I game on Linux. And I am IT.
17:35:10<steering>\o/
17:36:25<steering>standard response: you get a Windows license and image anyway, go install your chosen Linux on it and turn on disk encryption
17:37:53<nukke>Linux still has pisspoor VR support and also meh peripheral support
17:38:07<steering>thats true, thankfully I care about neither
17:38:09<nukke>And HDR support is not there yet
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21:04:41<Umbire>win11 still being the best gaming option is a testament to our failure as a society /mostly joking
21:06:31<nicolas17>doesn't Proton on Linux have better performance on the same hardware for some games?
21:15:43<FireFly>what does win11 do that's good for gaming? I thought people mostly criticised it..
21:30:22<joepie91|m>FireFly: tangent, are you the same firefly that I know or a different one?
21:30:34<FireFly>same :p
21:30:43<joepie91|m>ah, hi :D
21:30:50<FireFly>hewwo
21:31:16<joepie91|m>slightly surprised it's not a commonly used name
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21:33:41<FireFly>it is relatively commonly used tbh, quite often I end up having to use an altnick
21:35:41<joepie91|m>ah
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