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04:35:11<steering>wtf
04:35:21<steering>just opened a new tab in firefox and it teleported itselfed and unmiminized itself
04:46:46<steering>also lightning strike just took out my UPS...
04:47:17<steering>everything else (including the computer thats not plugged into a UPS or any kind of surge protector or anything and is almost definitely on the same circuit as the UPS) kept working fine...
04:49:29<steering>at least that computer has its latest kernel now :D
04:50:12<steering>F03 On-Battery Xcap Overload
04:50:59<steering>apc Back-UPS Pro BR/BN "MS/MS2/M2/M2-CA" models--
04:50:59<eggdrop>[karma] 'apc Back-UPS Pro BR/BN "MS/MS2/M2/M2-CA" models' now has -1 karma!
04:51:25<steering>(this is a warranty replacement for one that threw a different "Relay Welding" fault code)
04:59:10<pabs>lightning strikes--
04:59:11<eggdrop>[karma] 'lightning strikes' now has -1 karma!
05:00:00pabs would have thought a UPS would be able to deal with surges...
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05:04:20<steering>in fairness it did come back after i turned it off and on again, lol
05:05:14<pabs>oh
05:16:31<steering>also, re firefox: s/unminimized/unmaximized/
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09:28:06<ymgve>damn, isobuster is such a good program but why can't they just give a lifetime license
09:47:11<BlankEclair>piracy's a lifetime license, change my mind
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09:52:51<steering>lol
09:52:53<steering>true tho
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12:12:53<anonymoususer852>"... why can't they just give a lifetime license
12:13:09<anonymoususer852>Pretty sure that's called a subscription.
12:26:51<phillipsjk>No a subscription typically renews. Steam games are a life time lincense (they are non-transferrable after death).
12:35:05<anonymoususer852>Then there's non-renewing/renewable subscriptions, https://www.delasign.com/blog/non-renewing-subscriptions-examples/
12:42:58<anonymoususer852>For a software that was developed by a company which was founded in the mid 90's, "renewable licenses that goes indefinitely" doesn't apply in modern situations. There's also the need to consider those using older versions.
12:48:19<that_lurker>I really should take a look the terms of use of the games if they mention anything about needing a license to play the game. If they do not then pirating the game is fine as then I will just play it without a license :-)
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14:27:41<yano>https://windowscountdown.com/
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16:48:36<phillipsjk>Ususally the legal fiction is that you need a license to load the game: othersise copying it into memory is copyright exemption. Some jurisdictions, like Canada, may have exemptions for "personal study".
16:49:46<phillipsjk>But don't break a Technological Protection Measure during the copying! That would be bad!
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17:37:33<joepie91|m>yano: I prefer https://endof10.org/
17:37:38<joepie91|m>:)
17:38:31<yano>joepie91|m: nice
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18:04:42<steering>huh, wow https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-consumer-extended-security-updates-esu-program-33e17de9-36b3-43bb-874d-6c53d2e4bf42
18:05:41<steering>I had heard that they had "extended the security fixes for consumers" or whatever but hadn't bothered to look into the details, it's... heh... must have MSA, "At no additional cost if you are syncing your PC Settings", otherwise $30 or "1,000 Micrsoft Rewards points"
18:06:34<steering>"syncing your PC Settings" seems like a very strange thing to make it free based on
18:07:06<joepie91|m>I assume it's also syncing some other shit they want that they don't tell you about
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18:51:15<ymgve>I find the whole security risk thing overblown tho
18:51:46<ymgve>it's not like a normal windows PC behind a router NAT/firewall is directly exposing any surfaces to the internet
18:54:04<anonymoususer852>Better overblown than gross negligence for what was soon to be EoL'd product.
18:56:46<ymgve>think I need to find out how to hack in LTSC
19:06:00<joepie91|m>ymgve: that's like, a tiny slice of the possible ways in which a system can be exploited
19:07:17<ymgve>yeah most exploits are via a browser
19:07:29<ymgve>which isn't something windows updates are fixing
19:07:40<ymgve>(except for edge but eeeew edge)
19:09:05<joepie91|m>it isn't just about security updates for Windows directly (though those do play a role, system libraries are still often used)
19:09:25<joepie91|m>it's also about "EOL" meaning that other software starts dropping support for it pretty quickly, usually
19:09:32<joepie91|m>and so you don't get security updates for those anymore either
19:10:00<ymgve>yeah, that's true
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22:02:53<Yakov>Why does archive.org have to suddenly stop working in middle of an upload and any requests to their site just yields in a timeout while through another a proxy like tor it suddenly starts working just fine? https://img.yakov.cloud/OllyT.png
23:14:22<Dango360>1,000 Microsoft Rewards points is pitiful compared to 30 dollars (in the UK 1,705 points is worth £1.25 Microsoft Store Gift Card)
23:15:46<Dango360>this is just the strangest ESU anyone has ever done
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