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06:16:40<pabs>pass-otp++
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06:17:56<that_lurker>ooo
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07:32:49<steering>JAA: I mean, honestly, "oh no I have to install a TOTP app on my phone boohoo" :P
07:33:44<steering>but yeah that's why we got some yubikeys as well (of course they could lose them more easily than their phone...)
07:35:10<steering>(and yes of course you don't *have* to put the TOTP on your phone, I have a bunch in Bitwarden, but I'm not gonna try and explain that to salespeople xD)
08:03:29<steering>fireonlive++
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08:23:15<thuban>the last place i worked that required 2fa supported smartphones and windows desktop, but not linux (this was a _supercomputing research facility_).
08:23:31<thuban>they did offer, and i eventually received, a physical token--not a yubikey, some brand i've never heard of before or since.
08:23:45<thuban>which worked great! for three or four months, until they started also requiring 2fa for slack, which didn't and does not support it at all (:
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08:27:10<steering>bahaha
08:27:41<steering>right now we've only enforced it in google workspace, the plan is to tie everything else into that for SSO
08:28:12<steering>because pretty much everything supports some combination of google oauth, saml, or ldap
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08:39:35<immibis>putting mandatory work stuff on your personal phone brings up problems, like what if you lose your phone, do you get fired for not working?
08:39:58<immibis>you have no duty to not lose your own phone, like you would have with a work phone
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09:05:14<steering>immibis: I mean, not really, we're not gonna fire her if she loses the yubikey either :P
09:09:58<steering>(and also in terms of duty... keep in mind that we're in the US, where employees have a duty to do quite literally whatever the employer tells them or be fired)
09:27:34<steering>english is weird, part 3472385975897185: nickel, pickle
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11:03:36<qwertyasdfuiopghjkl>Imposters stole over 22 metric tons of cheese: https://www.npr.org/2024/10/28/nx-s1-5168356/cheddar-cheese-stolen-neals-yard-dairy
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11:13:09<immibis>paid a nickle for a pickel but the bread was just rye, singing this will be the day that i die...
11:21:03<steering>lol ok now i have to go listen to don mclean
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12:57:43<steering>hey backblaze, thanks for giving out upload addresses that don't exist! \o/
13:01:14<masterx244|m><immibis> "putting mandatory work stuff..." <- thats why i'm glad that we don't have that crap in europe. i don't want to be forced to rush-get a new phone if mine decides to nope out without announcement (happened to me once already but luckily only private stuff was affected) since i am a bit picky on the feature side
13:01:34<masterx244|m>i refuse to have anything work-related on private hardware
13:01:41<immibis>also if your company gets sued they may seize your phone for evidence
13:02:56<masterx244|m>luckily 2FA where i work is handled by the SSO and that supports the work smartcard for login which has pin requirement, too so it satisfies the 2FA need by itself already
13:05:47<masterx244|m>immibis: another good reason to keep the blastdoors closed and the firewall tight since too much IRL stuff has phone requirements already in the private life part. Out of phone for a longer time and you are arsed. (even when its just getting a up to date rail schedule when something breaks down, and thats where i was stuck once when my phone decided to brick itself randomly, couldn#t get the information and couldn't tell my buddys that
13:05:47<masterx244|m>i was delayed back then)
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13:34:08<steering>masterx244|m: I pushed for us to just give yubikeys to everyone but nooooo~ :P
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15:37:34<nukke>>On October 29, 1969, a UCLA Computer Science Professor and his staff sent the message “LO” over the telephone network to be received at Stanford University. It is also known as World Internet Day or International Internet Day.
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17:15:04<immibis>they had remote terminals before that, but not Internet ones
17:15:16<immibis>the original internet didn't even use IP
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19:32:58<nicolas17>in zsh, if you type `path=/tmp` (in lowercase, and without `export`) and then run `env`, what do you predict the output will be? will `path` be in the environment?
19:35:23<@JAA>Given you're asking this, the answer is probably yes for a weird reason.
19:35:45<nicolas17>the result is "zsh: command not found: env"
19:35:54<@JAA>Ah, lol
19:35:55<nicolas17>because it fucking overwrites $PATH
19:36:08<@JAA>It's like NTFS!
19:41:26<anarcat>this is fine
19:48:12<@JAA>https://www.zsh.org/mla/users/2015/msg00177.html
19:48:48<@JAA>https://www.zsh.org/mla/users/2015/msg00178.html
19:50:19<@JAA>That's actually neat. I wonder whether that also allows for paths containing a colon.
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22:24:07<@JAA>The power of exponentials: a Russian court has fined Google a hundred thousand rubles (about $1000) per day, with the fine doubling every week. The case started in 2020, so now the fine is roughly 20 decillion USD. Only 20 orders of magnitude more than the global GDP. :-)
22:25:10<@JAA>Or maybe it's 2 decillion, the reports vary.
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23:17:36steering thinks back to "a-pert"
23:17:38steering shudders
23:17:57<steering>(A=Pe^(rt))
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23:30:20<steering>oh, BT is so wonderful
23:30:21<steering>Do you use smpt.bt.net to
23:30:22<steering>send mail?
23:30:25<steering>"smpt"
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