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| 04:03:09 | <kiska> | JAA: Google is like, fuck no imma not pay that |
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| 04:10:19 | <@JAA> | kiska: If you owe a country a billion dollars, that's your problem. If you owe a country a decillion dollars, that's their problem. |
| 04:10:49 | <@JAA> | (When 'you' are a major corporation or billionaire, anyway.) |
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| 05:35:31 | <that_lurker> | -feed- RIP botsin.space https://muffinlabs.com/posts/2024/10/29/10-29-rip-botsin-space/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41989511 |
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| 09:57:30 | <immibis> | only if that country has any ability to point guns in your face - all power is derived from the barrel of a gun |
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| 12:25:57 | <imer> | nstrom|m++ |
| 12:25:57 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'nstrom|m' now has 1 karma! |
| 12:36:27 | <f_> | !kfind nstrom |
| 12:36:28 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 1 matches for 'nstrom': nstrom|m: '1' |
| 12:36:32 | <f_> | eh |m |
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| 13:47:03 | <nstrom|m> | Oh hello |
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| 15:09:04 | <steering> | web team at work: *stops authenticating outbound email* |
| 15:09:24 | <steering> | web team at work: "huh why aren't emails coming through immediately" *sends 100 emails to themselves* |
| 15:09:32 | <steering> | -.- |
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| 15:39:38 | <steering> | tfw you sign up for an account with mozilla so you can do nice sync things and they... immediately start spamming you daily |
| 15:42:44 | <that_lurker> | I think you can still fairly easily self host it https://github.com/mozilla-services/syncstorage-rs |
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| 17:29:16 | <nukke> | steering: ok but have you considered signing up for mozilla vpn? |
| 17:29:19 | <nukke> | what abotu relay? |
| 17:29:30 | <nukke> | mozillAI |
| 17:36:28 | <steering> | lol |
| 17:37:10 | <steering> | ok but like... Google could spam you when you sign up without even affecting their reputation, instead they drop like 2 emails in your inbox and that's it :P |
| 17:37:27 | <steering> | sad that Google is actually doing something better than Mozilla there |
| 17:37:38 | <that_lurker> | well google does not need to spam you |
| 17:38:51 | <steering> | IDK... they could be going... ok but have you considered signing up for Google One? oh and Youtube Premium? oh and ... what do they call their AI now? is Bard theirs? |
| 17:38:58 | <steering> | LOL |
| 18:11:08 | <nukke> | I can't tell if you're serious. you get ads in your google inbox now. youtube spams the shit out of you even with an adblocker. google drive is also plastered with "upgrade now!" messages |
| 18:12:21 | <nukke> | I'll concede that google doesn't *email* you directly about services and products. |
| 18:12:53 | <nicolas17> | why email you if they can add banners right in the GMail GUI |
| 18:22:05 | <steering> | nukke: I'm not really, no |
| 18:22:26 | <nukke> | >:( |
| 18:23:14 | <steering> | Google *could* choose to give you emails about that stuff too and they don't, and in that sole way they are slightly better than Mozilla |
| 18:23:26 | <steering> | but yes they still suck far worse overall |
| 18:29:32 | <alexlehm> | Gmail sends mails about the storage being at 90% to upsell |
| 18:31:20 | <that_lurker> | and they send mails to postmasters when the recipients storage is full |
| 19:01:56 | <nicolas17> | JAA: https://www.cimgf.com/2009/03/26/dont-blindly-trust-debb/ |
| 19:02:11 | <nicolas17> | " Even when I am writing code by myself, there are actually three people working with that code. [...] Second, there is past me. This guy is a fracking moron. He pisses me off on a daily basis as I am having to constant re-write his code. He is generally clueless and causes me more headaches than anyone else." |
| 19:02:29 | <myself> | past myself is a moron too, trust me |
| 19:04:13 | <that_lurker> | what do we know about future myself |
| 19:05:29 | <@JAA> | :-) |
| 19:05:39 | <myself> | if you find out, let present myself know |
| 19:06:30 | <katia> | fireonlive++ |
| 19:06:31 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'fireonlive' now has 692 karma! |
| 19:06:45 | <nicolas17> | that_lurker: "Finally there is the future me. This guy is smarter than I am, has seen more than I have and has done more. My goal, in addition to making sure my code works, is to make sure that my intentions are clear for him so that I don’t piss him off too badly." |
| 19:07:29 | <myself> | Getting smarter! that sounds good! |
| 19:07:31 | | myself puffs proudly |
| 19:07:41 | <@JAA> | > it is safe to say that anything I wrote in the past was written by someone dumber than I am. |
| 19:09:09 | <that_lurker> | ahh so it's not procrastitantion its just coding when im smarter |
| 19:09:24 | <katia> | ooo |
| 19:10:03 | <@JAA> | Nice, I need to remember that. |
| 19:11:07 | <nicolas17> | that_lurker: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/559767043620995105/1300534053463920701/55e122c7-4e82-40fe-9948-6f305f245e42.png?ex=6723d339&is=672281b9&hm=71df93a15e5e522613d514a658274b0b5806075d2d06fdb0a77ebe79e3489dd8& |
| 19:11:42 | <@JAA> | Wow, rude |
| 19:16:24 | <that_lurker> | just leaving this here https://news.microsoft.com/2001/04/11/farewell-clippy-whats-happening-to-the-infamous-office-assistant-in-office-xp/ |
| 19:16:51 | <steering> | corollary to trusting DEBB: if you can't figure things out without explicit documentation, you'll never be able to solve actual problems... |
| 19:17:54 | <that_lurker> | Way of the Microsoft: If our thing is broken and works diffrently than in the documentations we will just change the documentations |
| 19:18:02 | <steering> | wow, microsoft stuff from 2001 still live on the web, amazing |
| 19:18:31 | <steering> | ah, but it's only been at that URL since 2014 of course |
| 19:20:33 | <steering> | https://old.reddit.com/r/nostalgia/comments/p8kcxj/microsoft_office_assistant_characters/ merlin gets his prime positioning, as he deserves |
| 19:20:49 | <steering> | hmm, I wonder if there's a way to make Kagi auto-adjust links to old.reddit for me |
| 19:24:04 | <nicolas17> | steering: https://mklab.eu.org/clippy/ |
| 19:27:54 | <alexlehm> | that_lurker: usually the sending mail server sends a mail to postmaster when they cannot get the mail to the target server, thats not gmail-specific, thats sendmail |
| 19:30:38 | <that_lurker> | yeah, but gmail sends it with a specific error "Remote Server returned '554 4.4.7 <alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com #4.4.7 SMTP; Deferred: 452-4.2.2 The recipient's inbox is out of storage space. Please direct the 452-4.2.2 recipient to 452 4.2.2 https://support.google.com/mail/?p=OverQuotaTemp "" |
| 19:33:32 | <steering> | nicolas17: oh, um, okay |
| 19:33:37 | <steering> | I might have to put that on my site |
| 19:35:54 | <nicolas17> | steering: it's beautiful https://mklab.eu.org/clippy/agents/Clippy/map.png |
| 19:39:33 | <steering> | ew why's it trying to load stuff from S3 :( |
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| 21:01:46 | <dimkauzh> | hi chat, how are you guys? |
| 21:03:52 | <that_lurker> | Doing fine. Winter is slowly comfing and Internet Archives (IA) S3 is still down |
| 21:04:05 | <that_lurker> | s/comfing/coming |
| 21:04:05 | <steering> | WINTER IS COMING |
| 21:04:24 | <steering> | and yeah there was frost on half of my car when I went to the gas station at 11am -.- |
| 21:04:49 | <dimkauzh> | Oh wow here its pretty warm actually, like 15-20 Celsius |
| 21:05:02 | <that_lurker> | its 4,3 ℃ outside currently. Should open a windows actually |
| 21:05:03 | <imer> | comfing isnt far off, gotta get your cozy blankets and hot chocolates :p |
| 21:05:21 | <dimkauzh> | haha |
| 21:05:32 | <dimkauzh> | my mac is what always keeps me warm in the winter |
| 21:06:41 | <dimkauzh> | /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER dimkauzh tjqcrobezxmv |
| 21:06:47 | <dimkauzh> | oh |
| 21:07:03 | <@JAA> | All I see is *****s. |
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| 21:07:54 | <katia> | lol |
| 21:08:08 | <katia> | it's funny, in the email it has a space in front |
| 21:08:19 | <dimkauzh> | yes |
| 21:08:35 | <katia> | JAA, webchat is moving to the lounge. thoughts? 🎤 |
| 21:09:03 | <dimkauzh> | im a little outdated, whats webchat? (my first day on irc) |
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| 21:10:27 | <@JAA> | katia: I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed. |
| 21:11:34 | <that_lurker> | https://img.kuhaon.fun/u/BmKFM1.gif |
| 21:11:58 | <dimkauzh> | LMAO |
| 21:13:15 | <dimkauzh> | Anyways how is the day going for you guys? |
| 21:13:49 | <@JAA> | dimkauzh: Webchat is a way for casual visitors to access IRC from a web browser, i.e. without having to install an actual IRC client. It isn't pleasant for longer-term use. |
| 21:14:30 | <dimkauzh> | JAA: Ooh understood, thanks |
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| 21:26:29 | <@JAA> | https://techcrunch.com/2024/10/30/matt-mullenweg-says-automattic-is-very-short-staffed-amid-wordpress-vs-wp-engine-drama/ |
| 21:33:27 | <that_lurker> | lol |
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| 21:39:50 | <nstrom|m> | you don't say |
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| 22:10:57 | <steering> | if they say yes I can use it as leverage for a raise at my current job :P |
| 22:18:23 | <katia> | steering: I had an interview there a long time ago and it was full of red flags fwiw |
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| 22:25:04 | <steering> | oh yeah it seems like it would probably be a pretty terrible way to work |
| 22:25:30 | <steering> | but "hey I had an interview for a job paying $40k+ more than you pay me" is pretty good leverage 🤷♂️ |
| 22:25:51 | <steering> | s/way/place/ |
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| 22:47:49 | <nicolas17> | JAA: didn't he lay people off months ago |
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| 23:57:33 | <nukke> | https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/10/dropbox-lays-off-528-employees-slashing-total-workforce-by-20-percent/ |
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