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01:27:24<pabs>ah, no za3k, but the libmwaw result here might be the right one https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=MRII&literal=1
01:28:03<pabs>"libmwaw contains some import filters for old Mac text documents (MacWrite, ClarisWorks, ... ) based on top of libwpd."
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02:01:08<thuban>aha! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MORE_(application)
02:01:59<thuban>("MRII" for 'more 2'.)
02:05:05<thuban>possibly helpful: https://sourceforge.net/projects/libmwaw/, https://github.com/scripting/opmlPackage/issues/5
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02:35:02<thuban>oh, i think libreoffice should be able to import it directly https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/what-are-the-5-x-writer-import-export-filters/15189
02:35:59<thuban>oof, although apparently that was removed in 6.x https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/what-are-the-6-x-writer-import-export-filters/55257
02:40:00<pabs>thuban: in Debian LibreOffice 7.4.5-3 still depends on libmwaw-0.3-3
02:40:12<pabs>so maybe only the upstream package dropped it?
02:40:51<thuban>libmwaw supports a variety of more common file formats; i suspect it's retained for those
02:41:03<pabs>hmm ok
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02:51:18<thuban>#liberaoffice on libera might know more about why it was dropped and/or whether you could patch the old filter pack in
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02:53:27<thuban>(even if you can't, getting libreoffice 5 running will probably be a faster and less painful way of getting to epub than going through omnioutliner or brad pettit's more2xml)
02:54:28<thuban>durr... #libreoffice
02:56:23<pabs>libmwaw-tools has mwaw2{html,raw,txt} too
03:02:30<thuban>ah, and writerperfect (libmwaw client) has mwaw2odf.
03:04:11<thuban>the libmwaw wiki says it "only retrieves the outline content", so sounds like very limited support for formatting, images, equations, etc, but it's probably the best available without writing your own code
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04:16:02<flashfire42>https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/1615aa7e38eed22b/image.png I think they are a bit late on that update
04:17:21<fireonlive>just a little
04:18:48<nukke>How do we revert to a previous climate snapshot?
04:18:58<flashfire42>IDK
04:19:00<nukke>What file system does our weather run on?
04:19:14<flashfire42>http://robjansen.homemail.com.au/ this is the website if you wanna poke it
04:20:18<fireonlive>dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/fireonlive/brain bs=4k
04:20:19<nukke>Not to change topics, but what email provider(s) do y'all use? I migrated to Protonmail last year but that recent HN thread gave me the hibbyjibbies
04:24:12<fireonlive>fastmail's pretty good i hear
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04:59:16<DigitalDragons>I like Zoho Mail but might switch if there's a nice, free alternative for custom domains
05:22:59<nicolas17>nukke: lol, climate snapshot
05:24:05<nicolas17>that reminds me of users contributing CPU to climateprediction.net and saving snapshots of the running model in case it went crazy (usually due to a hardware glitch) and they had to rollback to a known-good version
05:24:12<nicolas17>since each task could take *months*
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06:21:45<fireonlive>6e657264203a33
06:26:00<thuban>does climateprediction.net take into account the additional energy demand created by people contributing cpu to climateprediction.net?
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07:33:47<fireonlive>JAA: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0BF5YSM2J
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12:31:15<kiska>thuban: In the olde days of CPUs not having C states, it didn't matter whether it was pinned to 100% or 0%
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14:19:22<pabs>https://github.com/ericchiang/pup - jqesq thing for HTML
14:19:44<pabs>(filtering using CSS selectors)
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16:37:39<@JAA>fireonlive: lol
16:38:04<@JAA>Shame that the keyboard and mouse aren't also in 'glamour gold'.
17:10:04<nstrom|m>thanks i hate it
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17:45:11<fireonlive>ikr such a wasted opportunity lols
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19:32:32<nulldata>https://bird.makeup/@elonmusk/1678098028849143809
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20:36:42<fireonlive>nulldata: amazing
20:52:04<nukke>how is that real lmao
21:16:42<fireonlive>anyone else hate the stale bot? but also, lol - bot wars: https://github.com/solidnerd/docker-bookstack/issues/271
21:17:39<@JAA>lol
21:18:02<@JAA>But yes, I hate that thing.
21:18:36<@JAA>It's a bad excuse for not properly managing your issues.
21:18:49<fireonlive>thank you! i completely agree
21:19:28<fireonlive>one i stumbled upon had at least 2 different people saying 'yes this is still a problem' every like X days lol
21:19:37<fireonlive>then stale saying 'ok wont close it then'
21:20:08<@JAA>https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/issues/4456
21:20:17<@JAA>Surprisingly, it gave up eventually.
21:21:06<@JAA>And I made my opinion clear on this one: https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/issues/5181
21:21:34<@JAA>I don't remember other exposure to it, but these two occurrences made me hate it forever.
21:21:57<fireonlive>-_-
21:22:08<fireonlive>the 'wontfix' label is something too lol
21:23:02<@JAA>'If you aren't yelling for your issue to get fixed every second day, do you even care?'
21:25:30<fireonlive>'you're not spending 1h a day bumping issues?'
21:27:44<fireonlive>i've seen once like 'ok we've released version $new which changes a lot of stuff and fixes a lot... and we're doing an issue wipeout because oops we've really been bad with that and there's way too many now, sorry. please do test and reopen and <promises of being better>'
21:28:10<TheTechRobo>I just don't get it. Stale bot closing issues just ADDS noise because now people have to fight to keep the issue opened. So it actually makes the maintainers' lives harder.
21:28:17<TheTechRobo>But what do I know
21:28:46<fireonlive>i think they just turn off notifications entirely and kinda look and cherry pick now and then
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21:33:15<@JAA>Yeah, I've seen that complete issues wipe as well. Don't remember which repo it was though.
21:35:56<@JAA>The one I'm thinking of was a big project and popular repo with several thousand issues.
21:37:37<nulldata>Stale IRC Bot: No messages have been submitted for 1 minute - marking channel as stale and deleting channel.
21:38:12<fireonlive>oh maybe it was the same one
21:38:16<fireonlive>i can't remember either
21:38:21<fireonlive>nulldata: xD
21:38:47<fireonlive>ChanServ: flags *!*@* +b
21:38:49<fireonlive>ChanServ: sync
21:38:53<fireonlive>stalebot leaves
21:39:03<fireonlive>'job well done everyone'
21:41:10<fireonlive>i have a 'secret channel' that's that but just ops :p
21:41:19<fireonlive>fun fact: it does indeed work on hostmasks
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22:34:33<@JAA>fireonlive: It was Signal: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/issues/7598
22:35:19<@JAA>They locked the old issues as well so that nobody would request them getting reopened. lol
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22:36:43<fireonlive>ahhh! lool
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23:45:48<fireonlive>does *your* ISP implement BGP safely? https://isbgpsafeyet.com/
23:47:15<flashfire42>Nope
23:47:16<fireonlive>(via tech234a). also there's https://speed.cloudflare.com/
23:47:39<@JAA>Yes :-)
23:47:42<fireonlive>which i did know about but looks like they've upgraded about it
23:47:48<fireonlive>JAA: nice :D
23:47:55<fireonlive>mine does not it seems
23:48:35<@JAA>Aw, Init7 is listed as unsafe. :-(
23:49:04<@JAA>'Details: started'
23:49:08<@JAA>¯\_(ツ)_/¯
23:49:29<fireonlive>aw :(
23:50:37<fireonlive>for manual testing on servers for everyone else looks like one can just curl https://valid.rpki.isbgpsafeyet.com and curl https://invalid.rpki.isbgpsafeyet.com
23:50:43<fireonlive>latter should fail :3
23:50:53<fireonlive>it's not much more than a 'neat' really since you can't really do much about it but ye
23:51:49<@JAA>Can confirm OVH is unsafe.
23:51:57<fireonlive>scaleway seems ok in AMS1 at least
23:52:09<flashfire42>Mine is unsafe but being an aussie ISP It doesnt surprise me
23:53:35<@JAA>Hmm, netcup is listed as unsafe, but curl times out on 'invalid'.
23:54:04<fireonlive>hmm
23:54:07<flashfire42>3 cheers for still showing up as ncable despite 4 buyouts
23:54:20<fireonlive>wonder if there's more to the unafe test
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23:55:06<fireonlive>from the browser network view at least it seems it just fetches those two urls
23:55:32<flashfire42>AS18371 repping the OG despite 4 buyouts fuck yeah boi
23:55:59<fireonlive>they very rudely obfuscated the JS lol
23:56:09<fireonlive>well, whatever toolchain probably did that automatically
23:56:10<@JAA>https://github.com/cloudflare/isbgpsafeyet.com
23:56:24<fireonlive>ah!
23:57:31<@JAA>It fetches three URLs, valid and invalid are the ones that matter, and if the latter times out after 2 seconds, it's considered a success.
23:58:09<fireonlive>hm seems simple enough
23:58:18<@JAA>They should've made the invalid host return a clear HTTP status or body.
23:58:30<@JAA>It's an HTTP 200 with the same body as on 'valid'...
23:58:46<fireonlive>can't return anything on failure sadly
23:59:03<@JAA>Yeah, but the failure is a success here.
23:59:13<@JAA>So they could return HTTP 400 with body 'your ISP sucks'.
23:59:45<fireonlive>ahh yes
23:59:53<fireonlive>:3

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