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00:05:56<kiska>fireonlive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs
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00:12:38<fireonlive>😃 love that video
00:12:46<fireonlive>it’s due time for a rewatch ^_^
00:13:59<fireonlive>kiska: you have me laughing in the drivethru :3
00:19:11<DigitalDragons>fireonlive: yeah, poor choice but I'm lazy and already know how it works
00:19:43<DigitalDragons>i also wrote the thing in java, so there are bigger issues here :P
00:20:08<fireonlive>:P
00:21:56<DigitalDragons>kiska: amazing
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03:31:33<jasonswohl>and we're back! how goes it
03:38:21<fireonlive>did you get your static IP
03:40:39<jasonswohl>"we have sent the order to the provisioning team, they will reach out to you in 24/48 hours"
03:41:11<jasonswohl>but yea, did what i could on my end, dropped to 500 synchronous and added that
03:42:38<jasonswohl>i had the thought that I could just use port forwarding on my AirVPN session.....but PIA, added latency. And the last time i tried to get vpn port forwarding to work........ didnt go well (NAT for my transmission host)
03:43:32<fireonlive>ah ye better to go direct
03:43:34<fireonlive>ig
03:43:35<fireonlive>:)
03:59:39<@JAA>I've been reading too many CPU spec sheets and am slowly going insane.
04:00:12<jasonswohl>JAA lol :( looking for low powered stuff right?
04:00:15<@JAA>Yeah
04:00:28<jasonswohl>and progress in the right direction?
04:00:34<jasonswohl>any* ^
04:01:16<@JAA>My conclusion so far is that there doesn't really seem to be anything by AMD that's comparable to Intel's N50, N100, N200 series yet. Those are rated at 6W.
04:02:18<@JAA>The Ryzen 7040U series comes closest, but still significantly higher and weaker video decoding capabilities.
04:02:31<jasonswohl>so for required featureset nothing from AMD that is as low powered?
04:02:49<jasonswohl>are we a bit of an AMD fanboi?! (i slightly am)
04:03:27<@JAA>Not really a fanboy, but I'd like to play with some AMD processors again after years of Intel domination.
04:04:02<@JAA>I'm also reading that the Linux support situation is a bit better for AMD than Intel.
04:04:33<jasonswohl>yeah i've heard that as well re: linux+amd
04:05:03<jasonswohl>my desktop is runnin a ~8+y/o phenom II 8C :)
04:05:08<@JAA>The other thing is that the 7040U processors seem pretty much not available yet. At least I'm not finding much. They were only launched in May.
04:05:11<fireonlive>let's pool our money and get JAA a mac mini
04:05:18<fireonlive>:)
04:05:18<jasonswohl>this laptop is a ryzen 5 1st gen i think
04:05:27<jasonswohl>fireonlive LOL
04:05:43@JAA yeets the nibbled fruit in the general direction of fireonlive.
04:05:54<fireonlive>xD
04:05:59<fireonlive>danke!
04:06:26<jasonswohl>arent mac minis in the realm of 20W ?
04:06:38<jasonswohl>the intel ones at least
04:06:57<fireonlive>2020 M1 maxes out at 133 at least
04:07:11<fireonlive>oh, 39*
04:07:14<jasonswohl>whoa
04:07:16<fireonlive>google you shithead
04:07:19<fireonlive>https://daringfireball.net/2021/01/mac_mini_power_consumption
04:07:37<jasonswohl>........ yeah, you're right. And i watch enough LTT i should just know
04:10:08<fireonlive>not you, jasonswohl, being a shithead
04:10:15<fireonlive>google being a shithead because it told me 133
04:10:18<fireonlive>:P
04:11:09<jasonswohl>ooooooooooooo lmfao
04:11:34<jasonswohl>i feel like had you actually meant that you would have plopped a lmgtfy link :) fireonlive
04:11:59<@JAA>I think I'm looking for something low-power that has decent support for modern media formats (at least decoding, preferably also encoding) so that it won't be obsolete within a few years. AV1 support has only landed in the last couple years. Intel added it in Rocket Lake (2021), but as far as I can tell, there are no low-power CPUs in that generation, so Alder Lake with the N100 etc. only. On AMD,
04:12:05<@JAA>it's RDNA3, which only launched this year.
04:12:05<fireonlive>:)
04:13:12<jasonswohl>JAA so, newest AMD that you can put a single slot GPU in, cheaped ARC gpu, off to the races?
04:13:38<@JAA>A dedicated GPU definitely doesn't fit the low-power requirement.
04:14:27<@JAA>Oh, I see now that Intel's chips can only decode AV1 while AMD's can also encode. Hmm...
04:14:41<jasonswohl>JAA yeah, a bit..........
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04:18:30<@JAA>I do like these mildly ridiculous decoding specs: 1080p1200 8bpc H.264
04:18:33<@JAA>1200 fps :-)
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04:19:14<jasonswohl>WTF! on which chip/wattage?!
04:19:34<@JAA>AMD Ryzen 3 7440U at 15-30W TDP
04:20:24<jasonswohl>i mean........... wow
04:20:55<@JAA>The AMD Ryzen Z1 looks intriguing as well, but same thing, not really available yet. Also intended for handheld gaming devices, so who knows whether they'll show up elsewhere.
04:21:28<@JAA>That one's rated at 9-30W TDP.
04:21:46<jasonswohl>id wager not for the handheld stuff as i'm fairly sure that those are along the lines of custom orders per the mfg of the handheld
04:22:01<@JAA>Yeah, quite possible. :-/
04:24:45<jasonswohl>but it'd be super cool for them to offer a socketed version/SOC itx board or something at some point. Id also wager, not that its immediately helpful that at some point these handheld mfgs will have extra stock of chips, and some chineseium or w/e company will make there own minipc type thing
04:27:03<jasonswohl>@a so, sorry if i'm a shill but. Might be some good deals avail if anyone interested: https://www.lttstore.com/pages/lime-day-signup
04:27:19<@JAA>Also, on the ARM side, there are apparently only two chips so far which support AV1 in any capacity, the RK3588 (which I've been keeping an eye on for some time now) and the S905X4. But Amlogic's Linux support is abysmal based on what I've read, so really only one chip.
04:27:51<jasonswohl>and id imagine overall lower power cons? ^
04:29:59<@JAA>Yeah, likely. I'm not terribly concerned about that since the stuff I intend to run won't be CPU-intensive.
04:30:39<jasonswohl>ah fair enough, and with encoding support power cons is much more effecient
04:31:57<@JAA>I haven't found any ARM devices with AV1 encoding support in the VPU.
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04:41:52<jasonswohl>yeah, not that surprised about that at this point JAA and, boi ever am i not a cpu architect, but, is it even possible to do that? also, what is the significance of having the "@" in front of a username?
04:43:12<fireonlive>channel operator
04:43:49<fireonlive>can change channel settings, moderate channel (ban/kick/mute) users, etc
04:44:26<jasonswohl>ahhhhhhhh i had a feeling that they were "special" but, in a good way :)
04:44:42<fireonlive>:)
04:45:57<jasonswohl>ok, question from WAN show: Do people still use snapchat? i basically never did.......... anyone else
04:46:11<@JAA>I mean, AMD's 7440U supports AV1 encoding, so certainly possible.
04:46:23<@JAA>I'm curious why Intel didn't include it (yet?).
04:47:50<@JAA>Hmm, apparently Intel is going the software route via AVX2 etc. The keyword there is SVT-AV1.
04:47:55<jasonswohl>JAA which is cool, but thats x86/64 architecture so i feel like if it is possible it might be more difficult to implement HW level encoding/decoding ability on ARM. As for intel. I feel like they have been HARD struggling with process nodes, and architecture for the past.......... 5+ years?
04:48:03<fireonlive>i have it and use it very infrequently with… ~25 people
04:48:36<jasonswohl>omg, fireonlive popular man you are
04:48:59<@JAA>Right, it might be more difficult on ARM. But Mali does support encoding other codecs, so I'm not sure there's a fundamental reason why it couldn't also support AV1.
04:49:14<fireonlive>i wish lol
04:49:54<jasonswohl>hate to ask, mali = ? tried to google, got lots o shit about the country
04:50:58<jasonswohl>fireonlive lol at best i used to be vaguely popular. Kind of enjoi on a weekly basis only interacting with tops 12 people regularly tbh. Simpler that way
04:51:25<fireonlive>ye i only talk with a core group
04:51:36<fireonlive>plus all of you ;)
04:51:53<@JAA>The reason why I basically abandoned my searches for ARM stuff is that its Linux support is ... laggy. Like, the RK3588 has been on the market for a year now I think, and mainline support is still pretty incomplete, so you have to run custom kernels and whatnot.
04:52:09<jasonswohl>same here, but much smaller :) AND, as of the r/datahoarder post call to arms for reddit archiving, many more :)
04:52:14<@JAA>jasonswohl: Mali is ARM's GPU/VPU stuff. Think 'Radeon' on AMD.
04:53:01<jasonswohl>JAA OH i knew i knew what it was will proceed to kick myself, mali is a arm thing....
04:53:26myself kicks jasonswohl first
04:53:40<jasonswohl>and, honestly the hugely lacking support for ARM on linux is quite surprising
04:53:58<jasonswohl>WHO SENT THAT?! ^ :)
04:54:38<fireonlive>myself did!
04:54:45<fireonlive>:p
04:54:49<@JAA>Agreed, but ARM is mostly in the smartphone market, which alway runs horrible custom kernels anyway.
04:54:53<jasonswohl>fireonlive o, but of course :)
04:55:49<jasonswohl>JAA as i was typing that, i had that vague thought. just so dissapointing that RISC/ARM for their potential are so undervalued/utilized IMO
04:55:55<@JAA>It's also becoming more common in other markets though, so maybe it'll change in the next few years.
05:00:17<jasonswohl>aws is a big push i believe as well as servers becoming avail with ARM chips servethehome has mentioned both at least a couple times
05:08:09<fireonlive>if yo SSN was the amount that’s in ur bank account how much money would b in there
05:08:51<jasonswohl>uhhhhhhh not on this day identity theif! :)
05:10:24<fireonlive>:3
05:10:45<jasonswohl>for 1/2 a second i almost thought it out and was about to start typing it.........
05:11:20<fireonlive>🤨
05:11:35<fireonlive>😁
05:11:56<jasonswohl>i need to google the OG emojies
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05:12:12<jasonswohl>i basically only know ":" + )D(
05:12:17<jasonswohl>and, P
05:12:32<@JAA>ಠ_ಠ
05:12:48<fireonlive>8===============D~~~~
05:12:50<jasonswohl>is that some alt stuff there then?
05:13:22<jasonswohl>OMG...... lol
05:13:36<fireonlive>(:
05:13:39<@JAA>xD
05:14:33<jasonswohl>"this channel is publicly archived" are DMs as well?
05:15:21<fireonlive>＼(￣▽￣)／
05:15:42<fireonlive>DMs are logged by peoples person irc clients in most cases but no not publicly
05:15:49<fireonlive>and most channels here aren’t publicly archived
05:16:22<jasonswohl>fireonlive fair enough. Unless someone at AT decides to try :)
05:17:25<fireonlive>da rules ™ say any channel publicly archived need to make it explicit that it’s done so
05:17:50<fireonlive>_(:3 」∠)_
05:18:09<jasonswohl>also........ i have an amount of unlisted vids on my YT channel..... im assuming that if someone crawled urls they'd find them?
05:18:35<@JAA>Depends on whether you linked them somewhere.
05:18:41<fireonlive>ye
05:19:06<fireonlive>they’re also longer now to prevent guessability /brute forcing
05:19:12<jasonswohl>JAA rarely if ever publicly
05:19:29<jasonswohl>fireonlive i feel like i've noticed the longer links
05:19:38<@JAA>fireonlive: Huh? Have an example?
05:19:48<@JAA>I've only ever seen 11-char IDs.
05:19:59<fireonlive>oh! that was google docs maybe
05:20:04<fireonlive>😵‍💫
05:20:17<@JAA>Ah, yes, they changed that at one point.
05:20:55<@JAA>YouTube also changed something a few years ago but it wasn't publicly visible really.
05:21:03<fireonlive>oh! they also made new links? https://blog.youtube/news-and-events/update-youtube-unlisted-links/
05:21:41<fireonlive>well, more complex than that but yeah
05:21:43<@JAA>Yes, they made all unlisted videos from before 2017 private.
05:22:11<@JAA>Because they were using sequential video IDs encrypted by a key. If someone knew that key, they could've enumerated all videos.
05:22:14<fireonlive>ah i was confusing that + the bunches of emails i got about google docs
05:22:17<@JAA>Sadly, the key wasn't leaked. :-(
05:22:22<fireonlive>damn
05:22:49<jasonswohl>JAA lol
05:23:15<@hook54321>fireonlive: i've seen some unlisted google documents with private info in them that people made short URLs for.
05:23:22<jasonswohl>also, my son's POV @ killington a few weeks ago biking but URL wise how "crackable" does this look?
05:23:23<jasonswohl>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGbo0puLdLE
05:23:39<fireonlive>hook54321: sheeeeesh 😳
05:23:44<jasonswohl>hook54321 that is interesting
05:24:00<fireonlive>i guess sole people don’t really understand tech lol
05:24:05<fireonlive>sole->some
05:24:16<@hook54321>some of them were for school districts iirc...
05:24:22<jasonswohl>o gowd
05:24:25<fireonlive>-_-
05:24:37<@JAA>jasonswohl: Nobody's going to guess a video ID. It's a 64-bit int encoded in base64.
05:24:52<@JAA>See https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/YouTube/Technical_details for many details about that kind of thing.
05:24:56<fireonlive>we all know it now though!
05:25:48<jasonswohl>as for not understanding.......... i was talking to my bro/sis in law about their home elec, no grouding system allegedly built in ~50s. SIL tried to tell me there is no neutral wire in the house........ i was like actually wrong, no neutral = nothing works unless its a 240v only device
05:26:10<@JAA>I guess the page isn't really up to date. It's lacking the @ nonsense.
05:26:34<fireonlive>ah yes the new usernames
05:26:57<fireonlive>how tom scott is now @TomScottGo instead of enyay
05:26:57<jasonswohl>JAA will take a look through. Makes me feel a bit better about that, but i never really post anything that is in any real way sensitive, just try for the most part not to show my son's face on my pub YT vids
05:27:02<fireonlive>but /enyay still works
05:27:33<fireonlive>(and shows his main page until you click on a tab then it goes to his username!)
05:27:37<fireonlive>:D
05:27:53<@JAA>Yeah, it's 'fun'.
05:28:14<@JAA>They also generated new names for all old accounts that didn't have one. They're wonderful.
05:28:22<jasonswohl>lol
05:28:37<@JAA>Some government agencies with long account names featuring a random 4-digit number at the end.
05:28:46<fireonlive>oof
05:29:06<fireonlive>those 900k/year salaries really showing
05:29:09<fireonlive>:p
05:32:15<@JAA>Oh yeah, during my research earlier, I came across this beautiful 'mini PC' chassis: https://www.quietpc.com/akasa-turing-fx
05:33:01<fireonlive>ooh
05:33:58<@JAA>Like, wtf is the point of buying a mini PC like a NUC and then putting a box four times its size around it? :-)
05:34:09<fireonlive>lols
05:34:48<fireonlive>https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdiu67O4nB1rehruqo1_500.png
05:34:55<fireonlive>so this is a site: https://windows95tips.com
05:38:34<@JAA>And of course it was run through AB a few years ago. :-)
05:38:46<fireonlive>:D
05:39:11<fireonlive>it's a-me, mario! https://64.media.tumblr.com/eb916c2f10b1c36a7845d78a642b1428/tumblr_mz5tczCFj51rehruqo1_500.png
05:40:07<@JAA>> There was an error processing your request. Our engineers have been alerted and will work quickly to correct any issues.
05:40:26<fireonlive>wow
05:40:30<@JAA>Tumblr isn't even able to render its shitty interstitial pages.
05:40:38<fireonlive>tumblr bad
05:40:44<fireonlive>https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/rzlRs/1688794833.png
05:40:46<fireonlive>fixed
05:40:53<@JAA>:-)
05:41:33<fireonlive>=]
05:41:57@JAA tries to click the 'No' button. BSoD appears.
05:42:10<jasonswohl>lol!
05:42:32<fireonlive>the sweet embrace
05:42:48<jasonswohl>as for mini pic in a case 4x its size....... industrial applications, or environment with HIGH air contamination
05:43:06<fireonlive>glitter parties?
05:45:26<jasonswohl>so, strip clubs?
05:46:21<fireonlive>^_^
05:46:24<jasonswohl>or, somewhat recently if glitter = chickens Docm77's perimeter :) (not sure if any of you watch minecraft content, or hermitcraft)
05:50:16<@JAA>jasonswohl: Sure, but you might as well use a case where the components aren't tightly packed in the first place. Much easier to manage the heat then.
05:51:07<fireonlive>i just hook my machines up to a heat pump 24/7 :D
05:55:59<jasonswohl>JAA i mean yeah there is that for sure, but for those environments to be able to dissapate the heat, if fanless you need many surface area even for small Ws
05:56:33<jasonswohl>fireonlive your a canuck, so basically free elec. So that doesnt count as a real opinion ;D
05:57:51<fireonlive>:p
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06:57:33<fireonlive>yes, why use <a href=""> when <div data-link-href=""> is so much cooler
07:05:25<systwi>While moving some files I found this meme I made a few years ago:
07:05:28<systwi>https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/1QTmV/dpos.png
07:10:13<jasonswohl>systwi ha! been there, i feel like we all have
07:10:47<systwi>:-)
07:12:46<systwi_>fireonlive: "No AM," hehehe, that part made me chuckle.
07:13:10<fireonlive>:D
07:13:25<fireonlive>nice meme haha
07:13:41<systwi_>Thank you, hehe. :-)
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16:15:07<@JAA>If this continues, we'll need to create a wiki page for memes.
16:15:12<@JAA>And yes, nice meme. :-)
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16:21:40<jasonswohl>indeed! that was funny
16:23:04<that_lurker>https://lounge.kuhaon.fun/folder/c415338f02df7278/7rxk57.jpg
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16:24:53<that_lurker>I have way too many memes :P https://lounge.kuhaon.fun/folder/06de0797c71f385b/7rxkam.jpg
16:28:05<that_lurker>https://lounge.kuhaon.fun/folder/691e742a44bc2f89/7rxknz.jpg
16:28:42<Barto>keep them coming that_lurker
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16:29:43<that_lurker>I need to make more archiving releated ones https://lounge.kuhaon.fun/folder/791050af1e417582/7rxksz.jpg
16:32:21<that_lurker>https://lounge.kuhaon.fun/folder/14e052cf7c245401/7rxl38.jpg
16:34:11<Barto>that's JAA archiving our links here :D
16:39:10<that_lurker>https://lounge.kuhaon.fun/folder/6262c34b80b90712/7rxlqh.jpg
16:40:10<that_lurker>https://lounge.kuhaon.fun/folder/326a2f437f1a6ee2/7rxlts.gif
16:41:04<that_lurker>Higher res version https://lounge.kuhaon.fun/folder/570463561e785a2d/7rxluu.gif
16:41:43<that_lurker>theres a few memes to brighten everyones day :P
16:42:53<that_lurker>Had one more :P https://lounge.kuhaon.fun/folder/88d20fde85be2414/7rxm1y.jpg
16:43:35<@JAA>:-)
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16:46:37<jasonswohl>that_lurker great shit all of em
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17:54:46<fireonlive>JAA goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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18:35:09<fireonlive>what if you / wanted to all the data / but god said / I/O error, dev sdb, sector 43233262 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x84700 phys_seg 30 prio class 2
18:45:11<TheTechRobo>https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/ae87v/What_if_you.png
18:47:16<fireonlive>😃
19:03:32<fireonlive>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0c3eHiWYBUC7J9?format=jpg&name=orig
19:03:42<fireonlive>wow threads really did copy twitter
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19:10:31<Barto>future evidence on the trial
20:10:58<fireonlive>https://0ver.org
20:30:57<fireonlive>what do y'all use for your 'personal wikis'?
20:31:40<@JAA>Are you suggesting I'm organised enough to have a wiki for my notes rather than a random directory full of files?
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20:37:01<fireonlive>xD
20:37:06<fireonlive>that's what I'm trying to move away from :P
20:37:29<fireonlive>i have used both media and doku in the past hm
20:39:47<fireonlive>there's a few newcomers everyone seems to be flipping out over, like wiki.js or bookstack
20:41:55<fireonlive>"Untitled 71.txt" 🤦
20:44:39<masterX244>"New 200" in N++ and abusing the fact that it saves "unsaved" changes in a file inside its appdata folder as session reminder
20:45:55<@JAA>My personal step up would just be creating a Git repo in the directory and having something autocommit on file changes via inotify, I think. But laziness and <this_is_fine.png>
20:47:54<fireonlive>yeah, textedit auto saves too and that's been my kinda saving grace lol
20:48:30<fireonlive>ye 🔥this is fine🔥 :D
21:04:37<masterX244>most of the time those files only contain a command that i was patching up before pasting it into shell though
21:09:37<@arkiver>i think JAA is more organised than most of us
21:09:40<@arkiver>i have tiny scripts all over the place
21:09:44<@arkiver>and then i always forget where i left something (yes i should change that)
21:14:38<fireonlive>haha yeah i have stuff scattered everywhere
21:14:46<fireonlive>checking in 20 places
21:30:59<@JAA>arkiver: What makes you think I don't? little-things exists, yes, but otherwise, it's absolutely a mess of random scripts everywhere here.
21:31:02<@JAA>:-)
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22:21:03<za3k>I'm trying to identify a mystery file. We're trying to put an author's book online, but we have no idea how to identify it. Any ideas? 'file' fails. It starts: 00000000: 0003 4d52 4949 0080 0000 0080 0000 0078 ..MRII.........x
22:25:30<za3k>The output of 'strings' shows some stuff that looks XML-ish, and some other stuff that could be Postscript (/Times-Roman findfont 24 scalefont setfont).)
22:27:12<thuban>za3k: context? (how'd you get the file / is it accompanied by anything useful?)
22:27:43<za3k>I got the file a couple layers removed from the author (the people who got it contacted me and said "what format is this? how do we convert it to epub?")
22:28:25<za3k>It is not accompanied by anything useful. I'm not sure if I should be sharing around what it is before (re-) publication--it's probably fine but eh, play it safe, or I could link to a scan on IA
22:28:47<za3k>The author also doesn't remember the format, so nothing useful
22:29:08<za3k>Oh, I also see based on a 'strings' font message that MathType was used somewhere
22:29:41<thuban>are we taking about a scan or (as seems more likely) a digitally composed document? do you know what os the author uses/used?
22:29:53<za3k>No, this is the digital original. I don't.
22:33:22<za3k>The book is about chemistry
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22:40:39<za3k>Oh, it was written in 1992, that helps
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22:56:31<thuban>the only editor i can think of that has at some point supported mathtype but doesn't seem to be in file's magic is kingsoft office/ksoffice/wps office. is the author chinese by any chance?
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23:02:42<thuban>(going afk, but you may find http://fileformats.archiveteam.org/wiki/Document#Word_Processor helpful)
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