| 00:08:30 | <@JAA> | Anyone here got experience with low-power x86 devices? Thin clients, tiny PCs, etc. I'm looking for a little box to throw somewhere for some low-resources homelab stuff to run constantly, and these seem pretty nice. Prices of used units are pretty similar to ARM SBCs. |
| 00:10:26 | <@JAA> | Just looking for general opinions on abusing these kind of devices for that. |
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| 00:15:14 | <nukke> | JAA: what's your budget? I'm current running a Dell Wyse 5010 (I think that's the model) as a Jellyfin server serving and transcoding 4K video over the public web, as well as some other tiny services. It has an Intel J5005 CPU and 8GB of RAM |
| 00:16:23 | <nukke> | My main server absolutely destroys it performance-wise, but Intel has Quicksync which is unbeatable, and my main server has a Ryzen CPU with no iGPU or hardware media capabilities |
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| 00:21:17 | <nukke> | It ultimately depends on _what_ you're trying to run. Not all applications are built against ARM. You might also need media en/decoding capabilities. You might also have high RAM requirements. You might also need additional NICs |
| 00:22:40 | <jasonswohl> | JAA IMHO his videos are, i dont even know, kind of hard to get through? lacking energy, or just maybe a bit boring, but he also does text/article based content to skim through ServeTheHome youtube channel that covers a lot of this stuff, including power @ idle, under load etc |
| 00:22:53 | <nukke> | Currently it's hard to beat the Minisforum devices. You can get an 8c/16t Ryzen mini PC with a 2.5GbE port for under $400, or an Intel one with fewer cores but Quicksync capabilities and 2*2.5GbE ports for also under $400 |
| 00:22:59 | <jasonswohl> | https://www.servethehome.com/ (hate that i can't Shift+Enter for a new line :( |
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| 00:23:50 | <nukke> | Oh yeah Patrick recently did a video on some HP Elite minis. Pretty great stuff, but those are a little spendier (but they have vPro at least) |
| 00:24:13 | <jasonswohl> | nukke thats pretty awesome. I cannot wait for those to become a bit cheaper, naturally, or via ebay or the likes and use those as physical pFsense boxes at a few ppls houses i know |
| 00:24:37 | <jasonswohl> | nukke i really WANT to keep up on his content, but see prev message lol |
| 00:25:01 | <jasonswohl> | also, i used to be "intel retail edge certified" (best buy ~10 years ago) wtf is vpro good for?! |
| 00:25:07 | <nukke> | Yeah the content could definitely be condensed into like half the length |
| 00:25:45 | <nukke> | vPro is the poor man's BMC/IPMI/OOBM |
| 00:25:47 | <@JAA> | nukke: Thanks, that sounds like roughly the thing I might want, yeah. 5070 seems to be the one with the J5005. No particularly high RAM requirements (but more is always nice for caching), single NIC is sufficient, but yeah, usable video en/decoding would be good. |
| 00:25:49 | <jasonswohl> | nukke maybe a "salty" take, but i think he could take a "hint" from LTT vids ya know? add some energy |
| 00:26:45 | <nukke> | JAA: yeah, definitely worth checking out. The J5005 is powerful enough to have at least 2-3 concurrent 4K transcodes, and it's also passively cooled |
| 00:26:52 | <jasonswohl> | nukke thats what i've heard/read/0.5 remember But, does it actually do that stuff at vaguely expected feature levels for someone who is used to say actual Enterprice iDrac? |
| 00:27:12 | <nukke> | But depending on the cost, it might be worth getting something newer like the new Intel N100 CPUs |
| 00:28:20 | <nukke> | jasonswohl: oh no, it's nowhere near that robust if you compare it to something like iDRAC. I personally don't have or use vPro but from what I've read, it comes in handy in the event of, say, a power outage |
| 00:28:31 | <nicolas17> | there's no such thing as enough RAM |
| 00:28:44 | <nukke> | If your machine doesn't have a BIOS option to power on automatically after an unexpected shutdown, it comes in handy |
| 00:29:19 | <nukke> | nicolas17: 100% agreed |
| 00:29:22 | <jasonswohl> | nukke so you can effectively use WOL ? lol |
| 00:29:32 | <jasonswohl> | nicolas17 LOL :) |
| 00:29:40 | <nicolas17> | IIRC OpenStreetMap's main database server doesn't really have very high RAM requirements |
| 00:29:53 | <nicolas17> | ...but it has 1TB of RAM to benefit from caching |
| 00:30:00 | <@JAA> | Oh yeah, the N100 looks interesting, thanks! |
| 00:30:18 | <jasonswohl> | arent the max's on the higher end chips nowadays like 4-8TB ram/socket?! |
| 00:30:59 | <@JAA> | Budget is kind of messy due to potentially reusing parts I have already lying around (e.g. storage if the device takes 2.5" SATA). |
| 00:31:07 | <nukke> | JAA: again, depending on budget, this is currently the absolute best deal rn https://www.amazon.com/MINISFORUM-NAB6-i7-12650H-Compter-PCIe4-0/dp/B0BZPFC7HX/ |
| 00:31:37 | <nukke> | Like $360USD for 8c/12t with upgradable RAM and 2*2.5GbE |
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| 00:33:12 | <jasonswohl> | nukke thats pretty awesome but, for my current "desires" (pFsense, maybe as a VM, as such that it could be basically a "smart tv" box) is a bit overkill |
| 00:33:33 | <jasonswohl> | other than the networking of course |
| 00:34:10 | <nukke> | oh yeah for an HTPC and fw its super overkill lol |
| 00:34:34 | <jasonswohl> | nukke ty, thought i was potentially being pedantic lol |
| 00:35:31 | <nukke> | However! That's brings up an interesting topic: I wish Linux had better media capabilities! If you wanna use something like that as an HTPC with Linux, it won't support HDR |
| 00:35:56 | <nukke> | You _need_ Windows, or a crappy, spyware-ridden Android TV box |
| 00:36:22 | <@JAA> | Ugh |
| 00:36:26 | <@JAA> | I will definitely not be using Windows. |
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| 00:40:27 | <jasonswohl> | JAA i WISH i had more motivation to "convert" but, 1 1/2 big sticking point is i dont have the HW to play minecraft java, and thats ~90% of my gaming activity for now |
| 00:42:13 | <jasonswohl> | and, the other 1/2 or so is i've gotten spoiled with having a domain controller, redirected folders, and the virtue of GPOs which i know in some respect can be pushed to say, ubuntu desktop and other flavours but, the time......... |
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| 00:44:54 | <@JAA> | I'm finding intriguing devices. Have some reading to do. :-) |
| 00:48:36 | <mcint> | Wait miraheze is going down?! |
| 00:49:04 | <fireonlive> | last i heard it was saved |
| 00:49:06 | <fireonlive> | by itself |
| 00:49:26 | <fireonlive> | JAA: keep us updated :) |
| 00:49:38 | <jasonswohl> | mcint whats miraheze? |
| 00:50:02 | <mcint> | It's a wiki farm. Hosts ~6500 wikis |
| 00:50:09 | <mcint> | miraheze.org |
| 00:50:52 | <jasonswohl> | mcint ah, TIL ty for info |
| 00:50:58 | <@JAA> | fireonlive: T9 Plus is an ultra-cheap N100 thing. Now I'm looking at the Asus PN42. |
| 00:50:59 | <mcint> | I run wikis like it, but I *really* understand many other people don't. |
| 00:51:17 | <mcint> | https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Board/Policies/20230615-Statement - returns 404? and content |
| 00:52:09 | <mcint> | Oops, nvm. it's there. infobox links to https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_is_Not_Shutting_Down |
| 00:52:46 | <fireonlive> | ooh |
| 00:55:05 | <@JAA> | The PN42 seems to be completely unavailable around here. |
| 00:55:27 | <@JAA> | T9 Plus is an AliExpress-only thing it seems. |
| 00:58:13 | <nukke> | JAA: also checked used markets in your area. I actually scored my Dell Wyse for supercheap on Craigslist |
| 01:04:24 | <@JAA> | nukke: Yeah, just looking through N100 devices currently, and I doubt there'll be many of those on the used market yet given the CPU was only released this year. |
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| 01:45:55 | <fireonlive> | oh no! i finished all the episodes of my comfort show what am i to do now 😳 |
| 01:46:26 | <fireonlive> | start over again? lol |
| 01:52:01 | <jasonswohl> | fireonlive what was teh comfort show? if im able a recommendation you will receive :) |
| 01:57:23 | <fireonlive> | i shall PM 👀 |
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| 02:06:52 | <jasonswohl> | PM................ hrmz i no not of this terminology :) |
| 02:08:31 | <fireonlive> | private message :p |
| 02:09:09 | <jasonswohl> | :) i only knew about DM /s |
| 02:12:40 | <fireonlive> | ;) |
| 02:12:49 | <fireonlive> | slidin’ |
| 02:13:17 | <@JAA> | lol, from a Dell product description: > Secure by design: Virus and malware resistant with an un-published API and zero attack surface |
| 02:13:20 | <@JAA> | mmmkay |
| 02:13:47 | <@arkiver> | wtf |
| 02:14:11 | <@arkiver> | i didn't really have an opinion about Dell but now i do |
| 02:14:18 | <jasonswohl> | JAA LMFAO, sooo its a MAC?! |
| 02:14:25 | <@JAA> | https://i.dell.com/sites/doccontent/shared-content/data-sheets/en/Documents/Dell-Wyse-ThinOS-IA.pdf |
| 02:14:44 | <flashfire42> | Sadly gone are the days where macs only have to worry about adware |
| 02:14:46 | <jasonswohl> | arkiver never used them @ home/professionally? |
| 02:15:06 | <@arkiver> | jasonswohl: not myself no |
| 02:15:14 | <@JAA> | Found this while trying to find details about wtf is inside a 'Wyse Tx0'. |
| 02:15:43 | <myself> | oh dear, security by sticking its head in the sand |
| 02:18:11 | <jasonswohl> | JAA I used to have a similar "hatred" of dells similar to mac. However once i dealt w/ them professionally realized that even for the consumer equip, at least for awhile if you needed a repair manual, it was avail. And... parts from my XP were always under warrenty so never hadda order. But there is a bit of an ubiquity on teh ebay for parts of |
| 02:18:11 | <jasonswohl> | dells so easy to get. Also tons of org/large coorps use dell, so when they are cycled out, they hit secondary market, thusly driving that market to a lower price point via higher supply vs demand |
| 02:18:45 | <@JAA> | arkiver: ^ I think this was for you. |
| 02:20:09 | <fireonlive> | >un-published API and zero attack surface |
| 02:20:17 | <fireonlive> | *dies* |
| 02:20:19 | <TheTechRobo> | Security by obscurity at its finest |
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| 03:28:38 | <jasonswohl> | OMFG! LTT Vid "I want an iponone......... " just referenced people from the 90s screening calls via listening to the voicemail recorder, and deciding to pick it up if they were actually listening to it in person |
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| 04:10:05 | <nulldata> | Yeah it was mentioned during WAN show too. Linus didn't know about Pixel's call screening feature until Luke told him Android already had the feature |
| 04:11:21 | <fireonlive> | linus and his fold... |
| 04:12:22 | <nulldata> | Triggered a random semi-related memory - anyone remember CallWave? |
| 04:13:45 | <nulldata> | It was a similar concept, a call screening service and answering machine - but for those on dial-up so you didn't have to disconnect from the Internet if the call wasn't important lol |
| 04:20:25 | <fireonlive> | ooh sounds neat |
| 04:26:44 | <nicolas17> | https://twitter.com/OATMlLKLATTE/status/1676677478314659844 wat |
| 04:27:13 | <pabs> | is twitter unrestricted yet? |
| 04:27:29 | <nicolas17> | pabs: kind of |
| 04:27:36 | <nicolas17> | I think you can see individual tweets |
| 04:27:48 | <nicolas17> | but they don't show replies, and if you go to the user's profile you see nothing, etc |
| 04:28:04 | <pabs> | looks like nitter is still broken for that URL :( |
| 04:29:14 | <nicolas17> | pabs: it's a groomsman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0TBRm8X0B8Sa-V.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0TBRm7X0AAC8yi.jpg |
| 04:30:11 | <pabs> | bizarre |
| 04:32:00 | <fireonlive> | goated |
| 04:33:29 | <nulldata> | 🐐 |
| 04:34:13 | <nicolas17> | pabs: https://liothique.xyz/attached_files/ManuelAES_t.pdf "WARNING: AES-on-paper is not timing sidechannel proof" |
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| 04:37:36 | <nulldata> | Press F for the tracker :( |
| 04:37:52 | <jasonswohl> | F |
| 04:42:40 | <fireonlive> | F |
| 04:43:05 | <datechnoman> | F |
| 04:43:08 | <fireonlive> | |
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| 04:56:04 | <jasonswohl> | nulldata i just kinda at the time hit f for the sake. but tracker for all AT proj = down? |
| 04:57:43 | <nulldata> | All except for URLTeam - they have their own special tracker lol |
| 04:58:07 | <jasonswohl> | intersting |
| 04:58:36 | <jasonswohl> | so, they "think they are special" :) (likely poor matrix reference attempt) |
| 04:58:59 | <fireonlive> | urlteam's tracker looks neat |
| 04:59:24 | <fireonlive> | which, yes, has a short url |
| 04:59:29 | <fireonlive> | because maximum irony |
| 04:59:34 | <fireonlive> | http://urlte.am |
| 05:00:29 | <jasonswohl> | fireonlive why does their tracker look neat? |
| 05:01:02 | <fireonlive> | font+shadows+colours |
| 05:01:20 | <fireonlive> | here's the brrrrrrr: https://tracker.archiveteam.org:1338/ |
| 05:02:03 | <datechnoman> | #// is where the real brrrrrrrrr happening |
| 05:02:37 | <jasonswohl> | ok, at the very least on status, i can see that fireonlive nulldata datechnoman |
| 05:04:37 | <fireonlive> | tru |
| 05:04:37 | <jasonswohl> | so, i've thought about offering resources towards hosting a tracker............. is that a "thing" ? @all ? |
| 05:05:06 | <fireonlive> | tracker is very centralized and on the pillar of trust |
| 05:05:18 | <fireonlive> | best we can do is offer runners/warriors |
| 05:05:46 | <fireonlive> | (or other research/documentation/code efforts) |
| 05:06:10 | <jasonswohl> | so, assumedly tracker is running on a very trusted pub IP? |
| 05:06:27 | <jasonswohl> | fireonlive also, yes noted running mult proj |
| 05:06:29 | <fireonlive> | not about the IP; just the people running it |
| 05:06:37 | <fireonlive> | the 'core'/admins |
| 05:06:48 | <jasonswohl> | ooooo yeah, understandable |
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| 06:59:24 | <fireonlive> | https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/QmhlE/IMG_3359.jpeg |
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| 06:59:40 | <fireonlive> | night all, i’ve attached a photo of most of you |
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| 07:10:01 | <masterX244> | maybe AT should work out a financial support option that allows them to split the tracker into multiples so not all projects run over the same server so a failfart doesnt fart up everything |
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| 07:22:04 | <Hans5958> | How about targets? |
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| 08:14:31 | <@rewby|backup> | masterX244: What makes you think we don't already have the tracker sharded? It's like 10 hosts by now |
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| 09:19:14 | <masterX244> | since it looked from comments like it barfed out on most porjects at once |
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| 14:42:13 | <jasonswohl> | woo, online with gonetspeed at 750/750 for same price as frontiers 500/500. AND no packet loss :) https://imgur.com/AQYTd0g |
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| 15:36:38 | <nstrom|m> | jasonswohl: did you get a static ip from them or are you on their normal cgnat? |
| 15:38:59 | <nstrom|m> | I'm on their cgnat and run into issues if I run AT projects at high concurrency where after some time I start getting random connection refused across my whole network (like other devices on the lan will have problems) |
| 15:39:20 | <nstrom|m> | wasn't sure if it was just on my end or something on theirs, but seemed like a nat translation table filling up |
| 15:39:47 | <nstrom|m> | I tried switching routers here and had the same happen so don't think it's an issue w my router |
| 15:56:52 | <jasonswohl> | nstrom|m i wasnt aware that it was CGNAT................ |
| 15:57:10 | <jasonswohl> | a tracerout aughta be able to reveal whether or not it is no? |
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| 15:58:36 | <jasonswohl> | motherfucker. god damn sales people man............. |
| 16:00:09 | <jasonswohl> | had they told me, that i woulnt actually have a pub ip w/o getting a static.......... id have gone for the 500/500 speed and gotten static IP........ |
| 16:00:20 | <jasonswohl> | i knew that 1st octet being 100 seemed odd |
| 16:03:29 | <jasonswohl> | nstrom|m i would def blame their equip for such issues ^ |
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| 16:05:10 | <nstrom|m> | Yeah they're kind of an odd no frills ISP. Dynamic IPs are CGNAT and no IPv6 unless you pay extra for static IP |
| 16:05:43 | <nstrom|m> | I have no complaints about their speed or reliability, other than what I said above |
| 16:06:12 | <nstrom|m> | Seems weird to be stingy with IPv6 |
| 16:09:14 | <nstrom|m> | I was kind of considering trying their static ip setup to see if that fixes those issues but it's kinda steep at 14 bucks a month |
| 16:13:58 | <jasonswohl> | yeah, |
| 16:14:40 | <jasonswohl> | a bit, but i'm gonna drop back down to 500/500. On phone with tech supp as we speak to make sure i have to get static to get past CGNAT nstrom|m |
| 16:14:57 | <jasonswohl> | what speed tier/state for you? |
| 16:47:09 | <nstrom|m> | Same state as you, 1000mbit tier |
| 16:47:37 | <fireonlive> | CGNAT D: understandable with a small isp ig |
| 16:48:03 | <fireonlive> | but no v6 w/o a static v4? wtf |
| 16:49:08 | <nstrom|m> | Literally all they do is ip transit to the premises. No mail servers, no dns servers |
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| 16:49:23 | <nstrom|m> | I mean I guess it works, people just need internet access these days |
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| 16:49:54 | <fireonlive> | ISP mail is usuuuuallly a tire fire anyhow |
| 16:49:59 | <fireonlive> | no dns resolvers is weird though |
| 16:50:20 | <fireonlive> | do they jus have you use 1. or something? |
| 16:51:50 | <@JAA> | Hot take: any ISP that doesn't provide IPv6 in 2023 should go out of business. |
| 16:52:22 | <nstrom|m> | Yep, their dhcp server spits out 8.8.8.8 and 1.1.1.1 I believe |
| 16:52:32 | <fireonlive> | oh wow |
| 16:52:39 | <nstrom|m> | Lol |
| 16:52:41 | <fireonlive> | JAA: agreeeees |
| 16:52:47 | <fireonlive> | eed |
| 16:53:20 | <fireonlive> | mine said something like “we have enough ipv4 for everyone? why do you need ipv6?” |
| 16:53:35 | <fireonlive> | ☠️ |
| 16:57:03 | <nstrom|m> | As a software developer I can understand not supporting IPv6 in a particular application because there's lots of legacy code /databases out there that weren't designed with IPv6 in mind |
| 16:57:21 | <nstrom|m> | But for an ISP not to support it is crazy |
| 16:57:36 | <@JAA> | 'I need to communicate with devices on networks that don't have an IPv4/are behind CGNAT/...' |
| 16:58:42 | <nstrom|m> | In this case I get the feeling they want to squeeze the money from people that want it with the assumption that most normal people don't care |
| 16:59:07 | <nstrom|m> | And maybe they think they'll get more tech support calls if they enable it across the board? |
| 16:59:08 | <fireonlive> | sadly they don’t announce any v6 prefixes but i imagine i’d be talking to a brick wall lol |
| 16:59:24 | <fireonlive> | i should try agai though, it’s been a while |
| 17:01:14 | <@JAA> | I'd be changing providers if they wouldn't budge, but I realise not everyone has the ability to do that. |
| 17:01:21 | <@JAA> | I can choose from like two dozen providers here. |
| 17:01:43 | <nstrom|m> | yeah I'm not complaining too too much, I have my choice of comcast cable , gonetspeed fiber, frontier fiber |
| 17:02:37 | <nstrom|m> | if I really wanted ipv6 I could go back to comcast but I'll take gigabit over ipv6 given the choice |
| 17:03:57 | <jasonswohl> | nstrom|m i just ditched frontier fiber, had no idea gonetspeed was already avail when i signed up. frontier had a week long issue, that no in tech supp really knew about. Was an area outage with a card in their https://www.al-enterprise.com/-/media/assets/internet/documents/hybridpol-nokia-7360-datasheet-en.pdf |
| 17:04:25 | <fireonlive> | just them and starlink here |
| 17:05:40 | <jasonswohl> | tried to tell them multiple times after i had 2x techs out, hey get someone along the lines of a network admin to fix this (after outage was resolved, while running speedtests/ ul/dl that ~hit max speeds of my connection i'd get packet loss ~5% During outage was a steady increase from 20% to like 40%, then it died outright |
| 17:06:08 | <jasonswohl> | fireonlive do you have comcast? |
| 17:06:49 | <jasonswohl> | nstrom|m yeah, at some point in my life i have to l2Ipv6 but, it is not this day lol. And agreed syncrounous >ipv6 |
| 17:10:13 | <nstrom|m> | I've had netspeed since mar 2020 and only had one outage for like a day due to a downed tree knocking out the neighborhood. their stuff's been very stable |
| 17:17:32 | <fireonlive> | nope ;) |
| 17:18:45 | <fireonlive> | no comcasty in canada eh |
| 17:19:10 | <jasonswohl> | fireonlive i had a feeling lol |
| 17:20:25 | <jasonswohl> | nstrom|m good to hear. and, it seems frontier/gonetspeed at least in my area are both using PON with Nokia stuff running everything so. I have no idea how there was an outage that bad, and for that long. One of the techs who cameonsite said there were like 200 tickets in my area..... |
| 17:21:05 | <jasonswohl> | and, get this when i cancelled frontiers service. They dont want the ONT back, told me to recycle it!! wtf?! |
| 17:21:16 | <fireonlive> | take it apart! |
| 17:21:35 | <nulldata> | JAA - Heh the new semi-local all FTTH ISP in my area doesn't provide IPv6. Comcast does though funny enough |
| 17:23:52 | <fireonlive> | “ipv6 too hard!” |
| 17:24:39 | <fireonlive> | that’s why i use v4 and non-secure http on port 80 only |
| 17:24:52 | <fireonlive> | 😇 |
| 17:25:38 | <nulldata> | fireonlive - much easier just to throw the web server in DMZ |
| 17:26:04 | <@JAA> | I run my web server as root. |
| 17:27:10 | <nulldata> | Root with no password - passwords are too much work |
| 17:27:12 | <fireonlive> | how else do you listen on port 80? :D |
| 17:27:47 | <fireonlive> | >:3 |
| 17:28:25 | <fireonlive> | ofc, also /phpmyadmin for my passwordless mysql database |
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| 17:31:53 | <@JAA> | No no, database exposed to the internet, of course. I need to scale the web servers horizontally, and they need to access the DB... |
| 17:32:13 | <nulldata> | Do make sure you move the fully open SSH to a random port for security though - attackers won't be able to find it if it's not on port 22 |
| 17:32:47 | <fireonlive> | ah yes of course |
| 17:34:50 | <jasonswohl> | fireonlive first thing i did was after i got off the phone was take it apart! :) |
| 17:35:14 | <fireonlive> | ^_^ |
| 17:36:34 | <jasonswohl> | to anyone curious....... https://imgur.com/a/x3ydTR7 |
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| 18:02:52 | <fireonlive> | neat |
| 18:06:15 | <fireonlive> | ok not only reddit premium being like $10/mo is a giant fuck you it doesn't even cover all your reddit accounts |
| 18:06:17 | <fireonlive> | like ??? |
| 18:07:07 | <fireonlive> | on the site infamous for alt accounts lol |
| 18:21:08 | <myself> | jasonswohl: huh, couple of well-documented debug headers in the corner of the board there, interesting! |
| 18:23:25 | <nulldata> | Threads is now up to 70 million users https://www.threads.net/t/CuZsgfWLyiI/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== |
| 18:24:40 | <fireonlive> | 👀 igshid |
| 18:25:49 | <fireonlive> | that's nuts though |
| 18:27:55 | <myself> | personal data vacuum go brrrr |
| 18:29:22 | <fireonlive> | that sucction |
| 18:30:33 | <fireonlive> | ok if i dont fix my ram situation by end ofday someone please tase me |
| 18:30:47 | <fireonlive> | this is geting silly |
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| 19:28:02 | <fireonlive> | https://yqintl.alicdn.com/121878ca86699ef331dcbe6b71942201c65f6187.png |
| 19:28:05 | <fireonlive> | 👀 |
| 19:28:52 | <jasonswohl> | lol |
| 19:29:06 | <jasonswohl> | whats your ram sitchu up to now fireonlive |
| 19:30:47 | <fireonlive> | https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/IpO9b/1688758218.png |
| 19:30:48 | <fireonlive> | :D |
| 19:30:55 | <fireonlive> | sometimes the whole system just freezes for a couple seconds |
| 19:31:08 | <fireonlive> | and i get low space warnings! |
| 19:32:11 | <jasonswohl> | OMG! |
| 19:32:25 | <jasonswohl> | dont you worry i'll def give you some shit about it tomorrow :) |
| 19:32:45 | <fireonlive> | haha thanks :D |
| 19:33:01 | <jasonswohl> | a pleasure sir :D |
| 19:33:06 | <fireonlive> | i shall try ™ to organize things |
| 19:33:12 | <jasonswohl> | sooo, can you not add more? |
| 19:33:29 | <fireonlive> | M1 macbook air |
| 19:33:40 | <fireonlive> | all integrated |
| 19:42:49 | <jasonswohl> | ah i see |
| 19:43:07 | <jasonswohl> | fireonlive have you tried to download more ram?! :D lol |
| 19:43:20 | <fireonlive> | a few times! |
| 19:43:22 | <fireonlive> | :3 |
| 19:44:39 | <jasonswohl> | least you tried :) |
| 19:44:55 | <jasonswohl> | *wave OT chat, back in an amount of hours |
| 19:45:19 | <fireonlive> | cu |
| 19:45:29 | <TheTechRobo> | fireonlive: What isp you on? |
| 19:45:35 | <fireonlive> | >_> |
| 19:46:05 | <TheTechRobo> | Bell business fibre here (even though this isn't a business... don't ask). ~940Mbps symmetrical |
| 19:46:22 | <fireonlive> | ooh, that's nice |
| 19:46:51 | <fireonlive> | they generally don't check if you're a business i believe... :3 |
| 19:47:06 | <TheTechRobo> | And no, Bell (at least on this plan) doesn't support ipv6. lol |
| 19:47:26 | <fireonlive> | they do on LTE/5G! |
| 19:47:29 | <TheTechRobo> | Ran into trouble where I had to get J.AA to test my website a bunch because it was borked on IPv6. |
| 19:48:00 | <TheTechRobo> | Fucking nginx, requiring you to specifically tell it to listen on IPv6. |
| 19:48:21 | <TheTechRobo> | (I'm now using Caddy. Its 1000x better) |
| 19:48:46 | <fireonlive> | but that's... about it seems 🤔 |
| 19:48:48 | <fireonlive> | ugh listen 443; listen [::]443; kill me |
| 19:49:17 | <fireonlive> | i'm still tied to my bae nginx and a smattering of scripts for acme T_T |
| 19:49:31 | <fireonlive> | maybe i should come to matt holt's callings and embrace caddy |
| 19:49:42 | <fireonlive> | but ugh i'm so used to the config of nginx now :P |
| 19:50:03 | <TheTechRobo> | fireonlive: I think Caddy has an nginx adaptor so you can use nginx's config (with limitations ofc) |
| 19:50:08 | <fireonlive> | oh interesting |
| 19:50:16 | <fireonlive> | then again I can't be an old dog forever |
| 19:50:22 | <TheTechRobo> | But really the Caddyfile is so simple it probably wouldn't take long to rewrite it |
| 19:51:21 | <fireonlive> | $ wc -l /etc/nginx/nginx.conf |
| 19:51:21 | <fireonlive> | 1611 /etc/nginx/nginx.conf |
| 19:51:23 | <fireonlive> | >_> |
| 19:51:37 | <fireonlive> | to be fair some of that is allow lines |
| 19:51:55 | <fireonlive> | things allowing you to allow by ASN when? :D |
| 19:52:13 | <TheTechRobo> | o_O |
| 19:52:13 | <TheTechRobo> | you don't have sites-available ? |
| 19:52:17 | <Barto> | reminds me that my http3 config is borked on nginx, and i have yet no clue to why |
| 19:52:25 | <fireonlive> | i refuse to conform to that debian-ism |
| 19:52:28 | <fireonlive> | >:( |
| 19:52:39 | <fireonlive> | i have done /etc/nginx/vhosts elsewhere though :D |
| 19:52:43 | <Barto> | that debian-ism is great |
| 19:53:46 | <fireonlive> | *starts singing we shall not be moved* |
| 19:54:15 | <TheTechRobo> | Here's my entire Caddy config: https://thetechrobo.ca/CADDYYYYYYYYYY |
| 19:54:34 | <TheTechRobo> | (Oh god you get to see some of the shitpost domains I have) |
| 19:54:41 | <fireonlive> | oooh |
| 19:55:32 | | fireonlive bops TheTechRobo on the snoot for not using ISO8601 |
| 19:56:04 | <TheTechRobo> | :-) |
| 19:56:48 | <fireonlive> | massiv- lmao |
| 19:57:18 | <fireonlive> | https://nginx.thetechrobo.ca/ >:O |
| 19:57:32 | <fireonlive> | not bad though! |
| 19:58:15 | <TheTechRobo> | Yeah the format is really simple |
| 19:58:26 | <fireonlive> | for mine i have cf ips updating via cron every now and then |
| 19:58:32 | <fireonlive> | but that's probably easily enough |
| 19:58:41 | <fireonlive> | plus they can't change that often |
| 19:58:45 | <TheTechRobo> | fireonlive: cloudflare? yeah they dont change much |
| 19:58:54 | <fireonlive> | ye |
| 19:59:04 | <TheTechRobo> | the limit is only there because I rely on cloudflare for ratelimiting on findyoutubevideo |
| 19:59:18 | <fireonlive> | or at least i used to :D |
| 19:59:42 | <TheTechRobo> | and I dont want people bypassing it since my server's ip is not difficult to find |
| 19:59:49 | <fireonlive> | ye that's fair |
| 20:00:15 | <fireonlive> | i do like the you're not in trouble bit |
| 20:00:50 | <TheTechRobo> | yeah I put it there because I figured there's no way I didn't screw up the list of IPs :P |
| 20:01:00 | <fireonlive> | x3 |
| 20:01:12 | <TheTechRobo> | so someone just connecting to cloudflare might see it and think theyre about to be arrested or something |
| 20:01:20 | <TheTechRobo> | s/to/through/ |
| 20:01:39 | <fireonlive> | ye |
| 20:02:26 | <fireonlive> | idk if it's because you import error after the handle or it's just cloudflare's default to munch it (i think the latter, usually they hide errors...?) but your custom error text is hidden: https://thetechrobo.ca/thetechrobo.github.io/abcd |
| 20:02:45 | <fireonlive> | not that it matters |
| 20:02:49 | <TheTechRobo> | probably cloudflare yeah |
| 20:02:50 | <fireonlive> | just poking it :p |
| 20:03:00 | <TheTechRobo> | uh that should not be bad gatewaying though :P |
| 20:03:08 | <fireonlive> | <_< |
| 20:03:39 | <TheTechRobo> | I think it's behind a reverse proxy because I did not fucking want to implement all github pages' URL rewriting in Nginx :P |
| 20:04:32 | <fireonlive> | ah :p |
| 20:04:43 | <fireonlive> | it has your former copy of what was on gh.io i guess? |
| 20:04:50 | <TheTechRobo> | yeah |
| 20:05:05 | <TheTechRobo> | probably no one hits it but I don't want link rot yknow? |
| 20:05:29 | <TheTechRobo> | ugh this code is an eyesore |
| 20:05:54 | <fireonlive> | mm |
| 20:06:16 | <TheTechRobo> | there we go |
| 20:06:41 | <fireonlive> | alright let's see on a scale from geocities to 10 |
| 20:06:58 | <fireonlive> | it's a nice 404 |
| 20:07:09 | <TheTechRobo> | fireonlive: That's from Flask :-) |
| 20:07:10 | <fireonlive> | :p |
| 20:07:15 | <fireonlive> | ah :3 |
| 20:07:20 | <TheTechRobo> | And I'm not giving you any urls to try |
| 20:07:24 | <fireonlive> | >:( |
| 20:07:29 | <TheTechRobo> | https://thetechrobo.ca/code_lol <- the eyesore, if you're interested |
| 20:07:31 | <fireonlive> | ~slide into my DMs~ |
| 20:07:41 | <fireonlive> | :3 |
| 20:08:33 | <fireonlive> | ..huh interesting |
| 20:08:53 | <TheTechRobo> | ...And it's broken now |
| 20:08:58 | <fireonlive> | f |
| 20:09:04 | <TheTechRobo> | Caddy's reverse proxy probably behaves differently |
| 20:09:58 | <TheTechRobo> | fireonlive: I guess I'm going down _this_ rabbit hole now, thanks a lot :P |
| 20:10:03 | <fireonlive> | xD |
| 20:10:17 | <fireonlive> | abort abort! |
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| 20:11:10 | <fireonlive> | ah your github says datahoarder, no wonder you joined the forbidden channel™ |
| 20:12:11 | <TheTechRobo> | oh god now he's stalking my github |
| 20:16:08 | <fireonlive> | nop |
| 20:16:11 | <fireonlive> | :o |
| 20:21:11 | <TheTechRobo> | At least he didn't find the shitpost :D |
| 20:21:26 | <fireonlive> | 🤔 |
| 20:21:33 | <fireonlive> | should i go looking |
| 20:21:34 | <fireonlive> | lol |
| 20:21:57 | <TheTechRobo> | You're not going to find it so feel free :P |
| 20:22:26 | <fireonlive> | :o |
| 20:24:45 | <fireonlive> | brb 100,000,000rps bruteforce |
| 20:25:12 | <TheTechRobo> | Uh oh |
| 20:25:18 | <fireonlive> | :D |
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| 23:29:56 | <fireonlive> | i've emerged from the other side |
| 23:30:01 | <fireonlive> | wet and dripping |
| 23:30:17 | <fireonlive> | wassup all |
| 23:33:49 | <DigitalDragons> | did you survive, or did the bruteforce monster eat your ips? |
| 23:34:28 | <fireonlive> | just barely survied |
| 23:36:06 | <DigitalDragons> | good work soldier |
| 23:36:06 | <DigitalDragons> | lol |
| 23:36:41 | <fireonlive> | :D |
| 23:44:32 | <DigitalDragons> | running a web crawl, and apparently mongodb collections can get big enough that mongodb will just refuse to count the number of documents in the collection |
| 23:44:35 | <DigitalDragons> | which is... worrying |
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