00:02:59<@arkiver>fireonlive: haha wtf
00:03:05<@arkiver>is there anything they don't want?
00:03:24<fireonlive>ikr xD
00:03:33<TheTechRobo>how did that get past the app store moderation lol
00:03:39<fireonlive>i half expected it to say 'first born son' half way though
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00:33:47<fireonlive>"How to open ftp files ? There are some FTP servers that has video and other files. When I try to open these file, it just open a new window with nothing..Any idea why "
00:33:49<fireonlive>oh no i'm old
00:35:51<jasonswohl>fireonlive in my testing from earlier, i tried to use a w10 VM on same network, but didnt have winscp, so i was like NP< ill use IE, but. wouldnt let me, tried edge, apparently edge just allow FTP anymore.........
00:36:00<flashfire42>fireonlive FTP support is not available on modern browsers.....
00:36:06<fireonlive>ye i know
00:36:12<fireonlive>but like, filezila
00:36:14<fireonlive>or
00:36:15<flashfire42>You will have to use a legacy browser or an outdated one or a fork
00:36:21<fireonlive>or ftp client?
00:36:44<nicolas17>flashfire42: it was just "kids these days don't know how to use FTP"
00:36:54<nicolas17>same happens increasingly often with bittorrent
00:37:00<fireonlive>ftp should die a horrible death
00:37:01<fireonlive>but yeah
00:37:01<fireonlive>:p
00:37:36<flashfire42>lol I remember being the only person in my computer class who knew what an FTP server was and my IT teacher just asked me why I spoke of such cursed things. he then threatened detention when I brought up Gopher
00:37:51<fireonlive>as he should!
00:37:51<jasonswohl>:) lol> easier to do that then have a friend OVPN to my house for mostly one off stuff (and its SFTP )
00:37:52<fireonlive>:D
00:38:33<jasonswohl>ok........... educate me. Whats gopher?
00:38:49<nicolas17>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher_(protocol)
00:38:52<flashfire42>A format that lost
00:38:57<flashfire42>and thank fuck for that
00:39:13<nicolas17>I should make a gopher bridge for mastodon
00:39:43<jasonswohl>lol nicolas17
00:39:56<jasonswohl>why not telnet?!
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00:47:13<jasonswohl>gave this a brief google, are whats a good win/android IRC client? this webgui thing is getting a bit annoying lol
00:47:50<fireonlive>you could host your own gui client!
00:47:56<flashfire42>A matrix bridge or a lounge client are your best bets
00:47:57<fireonlive>thelounge works as a PWA on android
00:48:06<fireonlive>'add to home screen'
00:48:35<jasonswohl>OK! cool, i think i have those tabs still opened from.....fire/jaa mentining them to me
00:50:04<fireonlive>if you want to go retro you could use mIRC on windows :P
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00:50:57<fireonlive>pabs' url in his realname field kills me
00:51:00<fireonlive>love it
00:52:13<@JAA>HexChat is a decent GUI client on computers. Android I have no idea.
00:52:34fireonlive gives JAA piles of electron
00:52:34<TheTechRobo>Can +1 hexchat for desktop
00:52:44<TheTechRobo>fireonlive: Get out of here :P
00:52:46<fireonlive>:D
00:53:18<fireonlive>on *:text:*:#: msg # hi, $nick!
00:53:25<@JAA>/kick fireonlive
00:53:30<fireonlive>x3
00:53:39<TheTechRobo>fireonlive: yeah nobody I know knows about torrenting
00:53:48<flashfire42>I have seen the kick message from Ops way too many times XD
00:53:57<TheTechRobo>or ftp, or gopher, or anything except whatever social media is popular that instant
00:54:22<fireonlive>i guess usenet is too obscure too
00:55:06<flashfire42>These days kids think limewire is a new kind of fruit
00:55:07<jasonswohl>*excitedly raises hand, i know what all of those things are! :)
00:55:20<jasonswohl>flashfire42 LMFAO!
00:55:24<TheTechRobo>fireonlive: I know OF usenet, that's about it
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00:55:41<TheTechRobo>> LimeWire was a free peer-to-peer file sharing client for Windows, MacOS, Linux and Solaris.
00:55:42<TheTechRobo>TIL
00:55:44<fireonlive>https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/lK5CD/1688604925.png
00:55:46<fireonlive>i'm slacking on usenet
00:55:47<fireonlive>:(
00:55:55<jasonswohl>i can also proudly say that my 13 y/o knows what laserdisk, VHS, and dial up tone is
00:56:03<flashfire42>I got into an argument with my sister many years ago over the fact that she told me I was lying that we only used to have like 6 TV channels.
00:56:16<fireonlive>https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/KPhUl/1688604965.png
00:56:17<fireonlive>smh my usenet
00:56:24<fireonlive>too little TB
00:56:26<jasonswohl>whoa fireonlive is that torrents, or usenet?
00:56:28<fireonlive>usenet
00:56:31<TheTechRobo>I said I was working on a port of my shitpost to Windows 95, and people asked me "tf is windows 95"
00:56:39<TheTechRobo>people I know*
00:56:46<jasonswohl>flashfire42 holy shit............. :(
00:56:59<jasonswohl>fireonlive thats nuts!
00:57:06<fireonlive>it's not too bad :D
00:57:13<TheTechRobo>people just don't care about how anything works anymore, or older stuff
00:57:13<fireonlive>it also includes failed downloads ofc but ye
00:57:15<flashfire42>Oh my god. I tried to explain legacy code to one friend by using the windows 95 and 98 example and they didnt know anything before windows XP
00:57:24<jasonswohl>fireonlive got it.
00:57:24<TheTechRobo>flashfire42: LMAO
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00:57:49<@JAA>I do not miss the days of usenet subscriptions with shitty download limits etc.
00:57:58<jasonswohl>fireonlive my all out total download is ~15Tb
00:58:29<jasonswohl>i've looked into usenet a bit, but would rather help seed torrents lolz
00:58:30<TheTechRobo>btw, is text mode (i.e. how DOS shows shit) handled by the monitor, the graphics card, or the BIOS?
00:58:32<flashfire42>A friends kid didnt know that we used to and in many places still do have data caps
00:58:57<fireonlive>usenet seems to all be unlimited now
00:59:04<fireonlive>though block accounts exist still
00:59:09<jasonswohl>TheTechRobo it depends...... but the graphics card, or w/e handled output to monitor
00:59:19<@JAA>Ah, I guess it changed since I last looked at it.
00:59:23<@JAA>Granted, that was over a decade ago.
00:59:23<jasonswohl>^^^^^i could be wrong
00:59:34<TheTechRobo>bc I had an issue yesterday where on this old CRT, it would work fine on the "Starting Windows 95" screen and all the DOS text flashing by, but I'd be seeing quadruple when it got to Explorer and it wasn't my eyes
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00:59:58<TheTechRobo>wasn't a driver issue or anything - another monitor worked fine, i don't switching monitors would change anything?
01:00:00<jasonswohl>that sounds like a resolution/refresh rate mismatch
01:00:03<fireonlive>i'm going to set it up to backfill via torrents eventually
01:00:09<fireonlive>just need to shuffle stuff around
01:00:21<fireonlive>absolutely cannot ever get a notice on my main server at the moment :p
01:00:23<flashfire42>Not as bad as moving houses a year or 2 ago and my younger sister who would have been about 14 at the time picked upone of my cassette tapes that I had and tried looking through the hole asking how it works.....
01:00:26<TheTechRobo>jasonswohl: But it worked on that reoslution/refresh rate for one or two reboots before it started doing that
01:00:33<flashfire42>that hurt
01:00:34<fireonlive>so it needs to 'reach out and touch me' to a seedbox of sorts
01:00:44<fireonlive>its own... personal... jesus
01:00:48<fireonlive>:3
01:01:29<TheTechRobo>Actually here's what happened: 1. Notice that I'm on 256 colours. 2. Switch to 16-bit colour. 3. Notice that it is now tinted extremely blue to the point where red looks grey. 4. Revert to 256 colours. 5. Exhibit A, seeing quadruple
01:01:34<jasonswohl>TheTechRobo with CRTs, could be an amount of things tbh.
01:02:10<TheTechRobo>The "tinted blue" problem was actually there the whole time, I think it just wasnt as apparent in 256 colours. (Switching monitors and everything looks so different.)
01:02:18<TheTechRobo>s/Switching/Switched/
01:02:29<jasonswohl>for some vague insight to what i'm talking about re: the amount of things, i'd highly recommend checking out slowmo guys "how tvs work"
01:03:28<fireonlive>casette tapes? you mean the save icon in GTA: Vice City?
01:03:39<jasonswohl>flashfire42 your little sister looked through the hole and asked how a casette tape worked?! that rough man. Curious how old they currently are?
01:03:53<jasonswohl>fireonlive LMFAO
01:04:05<flashfire42>My little sister is 16 now she was about 14 when she did that
01:04:22<flashfire42>the argument about television channels she would have been about 10
01:04:23<jasonswohl>when i was ~11 right after my parents divorved, my 40 y/o dad hadda have me show him how to save a file.......
01:04:41<jasonswohl>flashfire42 o boi............... on both counts,
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01:05:20<flashfire42>I grew up on the changeover periods so I know my VHS tapes and also my DVDs. the changeover from analogue to digital was as I was growing up. me now being 23
01:06:43<jasonswohl>flashfire42 so you were on the tail end of the transitions! im 35 :)
01:06:55<jasonswohl>at the end of the year anyway......
01:06:57<flashfire42>VHS quality sucks tho lets all be honest. it was amazing when it was the onlything we had but when I was about 12 as a big star wars fan my father got excited and sat me down to watch his Original trilogy box set. About 20 minutes in I asked him if my eyes were supposed to hurt and he just said "Yeah son thats called VHS eyes"
01:07:32<jasonswohl>flashfire42 LOL that might be a lil bit cause of a shitty TV
01:07:36<jasonswohl>but i can totally see that
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01:08:22<fireonlive>back when you squinted at staticy TV channels 'for no reason'
01:08:55<jasonswohl>TheTechRobo id say next troubleshooting step is try another computer with those same monitors and see if prob persists
01:09:06<fireonlive>not me ofc
01:09:35<jasonswohl>fireonlive oh, surely not. Clearly your not old enough to have experienced such things right?! :)
01:09:45<fireonlive>they only had women :D
01:10:06<fireonlive>but maybe :P
01:10:26<@JAA>I only recently learned that backing updata to VHS was a thing. That's pretty neat.
01:10:32<@JAA>up data*
01:10:53<@JAA>Where 'a thing' = 'this existed, but probably almost nobody used it'.
01:11:15<fireonlive>ah yes!
01:11:16<TheTechRobo>jasonswohl: Ack
01:11:17<jasonswohl>@jaa lol
01:11:17<fireonlive>thanks to LGR
01:11:20<@JAA>Or, in fact, Betamax or whatever.
01:11:28<fireonlive>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUS0Zv2APjU
01:11:49<@JAA>Yup
01:11:55<fireonlive>:)
01:12:02<@JAA>I got there from here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSnrQBfBCzY
01:12:04<jasonswohl>fireonlive omg!
01:12:05<TheTechRobo>I know thanks to a little youtube channel called 'Technology Connections'
01:12:14<TheTechRobo>JAA: Ninja'd
01:12:16<@JAA>:-)
01:12:19<fireonlive>Technology Connections best
01:12:24<fireonlive>goat'd
01:12:31<TheTechRobo>Technology Connections is love, Technology Connections is life
01:12:34<fireonlive>ye
01:12:42<fireonlive>and for that little bit extra, Techology Connextras
01:12:47<@JAA>Never forget to turn on the subtitles at the very end though!
01:12:59<fireonlive>:D
01:13:01<TheTechRobo>JAA: You dont watch Technology Connections with subs on the whole time? Shame. :P
01:13:58<jasonswohl>whats the benefit of having the subs on?
01:14:13<fireonlive>https://i.redd.it/yfumerkxvep81.jpg
01:14:18<fireonlive>for that reason ^
01:14:31<flashfire42>Man These ISP closing hosting stuff reminds me of just how many little ISPs there used to be
01:14:34<jasonswohl>fireonlive LMFAO
01:14:37<fireonlive>:D
01:15:00<@JAA>jasonswohl: For a real answer, extra jokes in the subs.
01:15:15<jasonswohl>flashfire42 what do you mean that they are closing stuff? and YEAH! there used to be billions it seems lol
01:15:23<jasonswohl>@jaa i had a feeling lol
01:15:26<fireonlive>ye :)
01:15:31<fireonlive>i gotta watch his latest fridge video
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01:15:44<TheTechRobo>fireonlive: It's long asf but worth it
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01:15:51<fireonlive>but also https://i.redd.it/yfumerkxvep81.jpg is pretty legit for me lol
01:15:58<flashfire42>jasonswohl ISP web hosting they used to often offer a small amount of space on their domains for you to have your own website. One of the major australian ISPs is closing their webspaces so I am going through their subsidiaries as well because I doubt those are far behind
01:16:08<TheTechRobo>fireonlive: You and me both. :P
01:16:14<fireonlive>TheTechRobo: twinsies! :D
01:16:35<jasonswohl>i watch a few minecraft streams, and pretty much religiously watch WAN show live every week, love the longer form content, if its good TheTechRobo
01:16:49<TheTechRobo>Can't understand how people watch movies and shit without subtitles on with the amount of muttering. Is my hearing that bad or do people just deal with not being able to hear plot-relevant stuff?
01:16:51<@JAA>Yeah, another heat pump video! (I haven't watched it yet.)
01:17:17<jasonswohl>flashfire42 o man, because of wan show, i;ve heard that AUS ISPs can be hit/miss, and most of the time the latter
01:17:35<fireonlive>my place is too warm lately... i learned that i need a two-hose portable A/C if I can't get a mini-split in here thanks to TC lol
01:17:35<flashfire42>lol you dont know the half of it.
01:17:40<fireonlive>(Alex, right?)
01:17:46<TheTechRobo>fireonlive: Alec
01:17:50<fireonlive>ah damn it
01:17:52<TheTechRobo>If youre asking about TechConnectify
01:17:52<jasonswohl>TheTechRobo depends on how you'r watching it, and from what source
01:17:53<fireonlive>i almost put Alec
01:17:56<fireonlive>yeah
01:18:14<fireonlive>:)
01:18:45<@JAA>TheTechRobo: I struggle sometimes on particularly heavy accents, but otherwise, fine for me. I do sometimes wish for subtitles in the real world though.
01:18:47<TheTechRobo>My dad always autocompletes it to Alec Baldwin, or sometimes another one that I dont remember.
01:18:48<jasonswohl>fireonlive "TC" ? also, those port units that have a hose out your window are super inneficient just sayin
01:18:50<flashfire42>Most of the ISPs are all piggybacking off of each others networks to provide to all areas or are in fact owned by conglomerates. for example the one shutting down their ISP hosting is TPG that own about 15 subsidiaries minimum that just have their own webspaces thats not including others they have vaccuumed up and some of them still operate as
01:18:50<flashfire42>"seperate" companies
01:19:01<TheTechRobo>jasonswohl: Technology Connections == TC
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01:19:13<TheTechRobo>jasonswohl: also he made a video about that :P
01:19:18<fireonlive>in this case two hoses better than one
01:19:40<jasonswohl>fireonlive ah, TWO hoses, gotcha
01:19:56<jasonswohl>TheTechRobo thats cool, he has earned a sub for sure from me
01:20:17<fireonlive>look at the little subby
01:20:19<fireonlive>:3
01:20:20<TheTechRobo>His humour is 50% snark and 50% sarcasm
01:20:27<TheTechRobo>(also, he's almost at 2m subs!)
01:20:40<jasonswohl>TheTechRobo perfect imo
01:20:49<TheTechRobo>jasonswohl: Yup :D
01:20:58<fireonlive>though the magic of <spoilers>
01:21:05<TheTechRobo>...I don't think IRC highlight tabs are designed for if you have notifications turned on for specific people. lol
01:21:33<TheTechRobo>JAA: The only time I don't like subtitles is when they screw up comedic timing
01:21:43<fireonlive>wait what about highlights
01:21:49fireonlive squints
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01:26:27<TheTechRobo>fireonlive: i.e. notifications
01:27:56<fireonlive>oh you watching for highlights of other people eh :p
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01:28:39<fireonlive>https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/86YQW/1688606906.png
01:28:41<fireonlive>bwuhahahaha
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01:29:08<jasonswohl>lolz
01:29:41<jasonswohl>so, past frew days, watched greyhound, imitation game, onto bridge of spies currently
01:41:44<fireonlive>06:35:06 PM <+rss> Threads has passed 2M sign ups in the first 2 hours: https://www.threads.net/t/CuVjWxcJ22Z โ†’ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36609632
01:42:21<fireonlive>it also requires you to use a real name, so those peddling their ๐ŸŒฝ wares can't use their ๐ŸŒฝ name apparently?
01:42:26<fireonlive>same policy as insta/FB
01:47:58<jasonswohl>fireonlive lol
01:50:06<nicolas17>did someone say torrents https://data.nicolas17.xyz/ipsw-torrents/
01:50:52<jasonswohl>nicolas17 hows the health on those? and total size?
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01:51:50<fireonlive>that's a lot of apple torrents
01:52:20<nicolas17>probably zero health
01:52:22<jasonswohl>fireonlive sure is, someone posted that from IA awhile ago
01:52:30<fireonlive>"The requested URL was not found on this server." sneaky sneaky
01:52:32<nicolas17>they have Apple's CDN URL as webseed though, so if Apple didn't delete it, it should download, and then you're seeding it, and if Apple *did* delete it, I know people with hoarded data who can go get it from their NAS
01:52:35<jasonswohl>nicolas17 are you hosting any/all?
01:53:48<nicolas17>and some have archive.org as webseed instead
01:54:07<jasonswohl>nicolas17 interesting
01:54:37<jasonswohl>any idea of total size? for the sake of it'll add them and leave em going for as long as i have the avail space
01:56:45<nicolas17>eh I see it as a way to match people who need a file with people who *already have it* before Apple deleted it
01:57:34<nicolas17>they can be 5-6GB each nowadays
01:58:23<jasonswohl>nicolas17 when a similar topic was brought up last in this chat, i believe i recall the total size was ~200ish but i could be wrong
01:59:06<nicolas17>I think 200GB was 17.0 beta 1 alone :D (for all supported devices)
01:59:28<fireonlive>huh, TMSC data was leaked. 3.87GB only.
01:59:44<nicolas17>fireonlive: I read about that
01:59:52<nicolas17>apparently it's stuff they use for initial provisioning of their servers?
02:00:53<fireonlive>some sort of clump of data, not sure
02:00:58<fireonlive>no signs on the reddit files lol
02:01:05<fireonlive>of*
02:01:59<jasonswohl>fireonlive i saw something about that, it was their "IT provider" but didnt read into it too much
02:02:04<jasonswohl>or, at all
02:02:13<fireonlive>i guess TMSC didn't send the 30 million
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02:05:29<jasonswohl>fireonlive for the ransom?
02:05:32<fireonlive>ye
02:05:44<jasonswohl>lolz ^
02:05:48<fireonlive>wasnt it like stupid high
02:06:02<jasonswohl>didn't read into it :(
02:06:11<fireonlive>ah, $70m demand
02:06:17<jasonswohl>jesus
02:07:46<jasonswohl>former client of an MSP i worked at got hit with ransomware at some point. "Ok, NP we take backups, go put in "X" tape" Client: Oh, yeah haven't done that in like a month.............
02:08:37<fireonlive>some of their password were reportedly literally "P@ssw0rd"
02:08:48<fireonlive>which.... why?
02:09:06<jasonswohl>fireonlive the IT company, or, actually @ TSMC?!
02:09:11<fireonlive>not sure
02:09:20<jasonswohl>im now quite intrigued, a link?
02:09:22<@JAA>Don't they know that correcthorsebatterystaple is the safest passwordโ€ฝ
02:10:01<fireonlive>i wouldn't know anything about a link to leaked data
02:10:07<jasonswohl>JAA LOL
02:10:19<@JAA>jasonswohl: It was an attack by LockBit on Kinmax Technology.
02:10:21<jasonswohl>fireonlive no, just coverage wise
02:10:29<jasonswohl>ah, got it ty
02:10:43<fireonlive>ahh
02:10:50<fireonlive>MSP gets pwned :c
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02:39:40<fireonlive>a channel with spaces? :O #helloworld
02:39:43<fireonlive>:3
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03:29:51<fireonlive>oh come on meta
03:30:04<fireonlive>of course sharing a link to a 'thread' has a ?igshid
03:30:23<fireonlive>(did they just like copy a LOT of instagram's codebase to get this out the door asap??)
03:36:04<@JAA>Why wouldn't they?
03:41:16<fireonlive>ye makes sense
03:41:19<fireonlive>already did the work lol
03:41:36<fireonlive>and it is basically instagram but like, more text focused kind-of
03:42:11<fireonlive>instagram witha skin and promises of federation :D
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03:48:19<nicolas17>fireonlive: https://notnow.dev/objects/4d1d9934-c943-4dc1-be3c-9009356d3790
03:50:51<fireonlive>oh!
03:51:14<fireonlive>aw, infosec.exchange ended up blocking it eh
03:51:38<fireonlive>for all your playing pleasure: https://archive.org/details/SameGame_1020
03:55:43<fireonlive>cc arkiver
03:55:52<fireonlive>(not the same game, but the notnow.dev)
03:57:37<fireonlive>08:50:12 PM <+rss> Threads hits 5M signups in the first four hours: https://www.threads.net/t/CuVxMmvLNsG โ†’ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36610716
03:57:39<fireonlive>5 million now
03:57:46<fireonlive>sheesh
03:59:25<fireonlive>https://www.threads.net/t/CuVuUwWueHq/ ;( poor guys
04:09:07<@JAA>uVu UwWu
04:09:08<@JAA>lol
04:11:24<fireonlive>OwO
04:12:39<@JAA>And of course the replies are already full of spam.
04:12:40<@JAA>Nice.
04:13:46<fireonlive>yep some people self promoting, some straight up spam etc
04:13:52<fireonlive>i'm sure the AI mods are on it lol
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04:18:36<nicolas17>oh wow I had never seen windows 3.1 on the archive.org emulator
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04:52:21<fireonlive>it's cool :D
04:52:35<fireonlive>i think i used to play that exact game when i was younger lol
04:53:20<Dango360>touchmaster for the ds?
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04:58:22<fireonlive>"Same Game"
05:00:23<that_lurker>Who in the hell thought it would be a good idea to make the top @ be a dark mode toggle instead of going to the home page on thread
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05:00:48<that_lurker>way too early for a flash bang
05:01:21<fireonlive>@_@
05:01:27<fireonlive>should be a lightbulb!
05:01:47<fireonlive>but ye there's no homepage so to speak on desktop
05:01:51<fireonlive>other than the pretty graphic thing
05:08:20<that_lurker>https://twitter.com/internetarchive/status/1676816330958446593?s=20
05:08:32<that_lurker>that explains why i cant open web archive :P
05:14:40<fireonlive>is.bak
05:14:46<fireonlive>:D
05:15:26<that_lurker>im still seeing the termporary offline page
05:15:54<that_lurker>main page seems to be up though
05:18:46<fireonlive>https://archive.org/details/adventuresofsher00doylrich
05:18:49<fireonlive>seem ok
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07:21:28<Exorcism|m>Guys, do you know about the Nickelodeon leak? ๐Ÿ‘€
07:23:07<fireonlive>i do i do
07:23:22<fireonlive>lots of bibles i hear
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07:49:35<Exorcism|m>Yep bllblb
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11:29:30<imer>re: pihole unhappy "Maximum number of concurrent DNS queries reached (max: 150)" lol
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16:55:20<fireonlive>morning all
16:55:23<fireonlive>https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/Vpqe4/IMG_3329.jpeg
16:56:00<fireonlive>imer: only 150? :D
16:56:18<Exorcism|m>https://fxtwitter.com/endermanch/status/1676949943561650178
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19:04:09<albertlarsan68>Exorcism|m: I get Too Many Redirects, even in Incognito mode, what is the tweet about?
19:05:32<fireonlive>one moment please
19:05:54<fireonlive>https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/AOYGg/1688670342.png
19:06:02<fireonlive>albertlarsan68: ^
19:06:32<albertlarsan68>Thanks!
19:06:49<fireonlive>=]
19:07:10<albertlarsan68>Do any play Diablo Immortal?
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19:07:43<albertlarsan68>Or any other Diablo game?
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19:30:12<@JAA>TIL V2Ray
19:31:24<@JAA>Ah, looks like it comes from China, probably to bypass the GFW. Makes sense.
19:32:39<Barto>i think i have heard about it in the past, not sure. Is this something like tor or something you have to self-host?
19:35:29<@JAA>Self-hosted
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19:36:47<Barto>interesting.
19:40:02<fireonlive>yeah haven't heard of it before today either
19:40:05<fireonlive>seems interesting
19:40:13<fireonlive>https://www.v2fly.org/en_US/
19:40:33<fireonlive>https://github.com/v2fly
19:42:56<Barto>the v2fly name sounds very germanic to me
19:43:21<@JAA>Not that V-2 :-|
19:44:35<Barto>Ach! Ich hoffe so
19:44:47<fireonlive>๐Ÿ‘€
19:48:08<fireonlive>https://www.bce.ca/investors/2021-annual-report/bell-archives
19:48:32<fireonlive>all the image names of these look like french version of macos' screenshot tool
19:48:47<fireonlive>i'd love to be able to like, actually see their whole digitized archive lol
19:49:17<fireonlive>looks like ther's some stuff ona rchive.org though :)
19:49:31<Barto>When Bell invented the telephone, he had 3 missed calls from Chuck Norris
19:50:26<fireonlive>let's just hope they don't go all apple library/archives and burn everything to the ground such that the archivists/librarians have to literally secretly truck things out of the building
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19:51:47<fireonlive>of course google is completely useless because its all just things about how to use comput e rr
19:52:05<fireonlive>https://annamancini.substack.com/p/how-the-apple-archive-ended-up-at
19:52:06<fireonlive>ok thank you
19:52:12<fireonlive>"How the Apple Archive Ended Up at Stanford"
19:52:30<fireonlive>it includes nice pictures!
19:52:44<fireonlive>cc nicolas17 if you havn'et seen it
19:53:35<fireonlive>*quick trip to web.archive.org to make sure that's archived*
19:53:44<fireonlive>yup!
20:06:25<TheTechRobo>fireonlive: This just triggered a memory
20:06:41<TheTechRobo>(coming from #wuciyuan)
20:06:42<fireonlive>:o
20:07:35<TheTechRobo>I remember one time when I was much younger, we had relatives over, including my cousin, who was/is rather interested in computers
20:08:12<TheTechRobo>I remember, everyone else was watching Princess Bride downstairs while I was on the family iMac burning a linux usb so we could try out... I think it was Fedora?
20:08:31<TheTechRobo>No idea why I remember that lol
20:10:15<fireonlive>:D
20:10:24<fireonlive>can't watch movie, gotta try linux
20:10:33<fireonlive>^_^
20:15:05<@JAA>I remember installing Debian Etch and migrating a system still running Woody over.
20:15:09<@JAA>Good times
20:15:33<@JAA>Or maybe the old one was Sarge, not entirely sure.
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21:04:41<Barto>I started Linux on Squeeze. Burning all 8 dvds was uncessary in retrospect lol
21:05:51<fireonlive>haha yes
21:05:58<fireonlive>i've deffo burned more than i've needed too as well
21:06:40<nicolas17>I remember buying a DVD-RW and then thinking it was a great investment
21:07:29<fireonlive>i remember USB2 coming out and being like 'ooh i want that' and installing the expansion card in my computer lol
21:07:50<Barto>thing is, first machine i installed linux on needed the non-free repo, tense time to get networking working :D
21:08:11<fireonlive>oop :D
21:08:36<Barto>imagine figuring out how to sudo dpkg -i your package on your first week on linux lol
21:08:39<myself>my first linux experiments involved LOADLIN booting from zipdrive because I didn't want to mess with dual-boot on the hard drive... I had a bad time.
21:08:59<nicolas17>with the number of times I flawlessly re-burned it, paid for itself :P
21:09:17<nicolas17>miracle technology
21:09:27<nicolas17>slow though
21:10:06<fireonlive>^_^
21:10:17<myself>I'm sad that I didn't realize how cool DVD-RAM was back in the day. I had a capable drive, never had media, had no clue about the sector-granular rewrites until the Technology Connections video just recently.
21:12:07<Barto>hey, i still have somewhere a minix 3.2.0 cd I found at uni in the dumpster. Not a burned iso, the real deal
21:12:22<myself>Ooo, is that uploaded?
21:13:10<Barto>i mean, it's there: https://wiki.minix3.org/doku.php?id=www:download:previousversions
21:13:59<fireonlive>ah!
21:14:52<fireonlive>someone uploaded v2 source but that's about all i found lol https://archive.org/details/smx-200
21:15:11<@rewby>Barto: If you can obtain me an ISO, I'd be very interestd
21:15:18<@rewby>Or the actual CD :P I love old OSes
21:15:46<fireonlive>http://download.minix3.org/iso/minix_R3.2.0-116fcea.iso.bz2 :D
21:18:30<nicolas17>fireonlive: https://i.redd.it/qltwyd0xvpua1.png
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21:21:27<fireonlive>aww that's a nice pussy
21:22:02<Barto>rewby: you've got the iso covered. And for the look: https://transfer.archivete.am/mjJMW/IMG_20230706_231716.jpg
21:22:49<@rewby>Oh that's adorable
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21:23:24<nicolas17>raccoon :D
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21:24:14<fireonlive>ah :D
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21:31:53<fireonlive>random question; cause i swear i saw this before.... are there any existing 'yeet this as read0-only TTY to a website' solutions; and/or yeet the output of a command
21:32:27<fireonlive>the latter is easier but i swear i saw someone make like htop their website background real-time streaming from their server (read-only) *somewhere*
21:32:38<fireonlive>but i couldn't find it for the life of me
21:34:01<fireonlive>god fucking damn it
21:34:05<fireonlive>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10323226
21:34:15<fireonlive>well i found it this time lol
21:35:32<fireonlive>hmmm
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21:36:53<fireonlive>i thought it was a lot more complex than it ended up being :D
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21:40:45<@JAA>fireonlive: There are streamhut and rtail, but they're both very dead. Seashells also, but the server isn't open-source.
21:43:52<@JAA>(That'd be command output, not TTY.)
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21:47:57<fireonlive>thanks :)
21:48:16<fireonlive>i'll dig around and see if maybe there's replacement or maybe an oss server for the latter
21:49:33<@JAA>asciinema is also related, but that's for recording and playing back, not live transmission.
21:50:13<@JAA>The rtail website is a spam blog now. :-|
21:50:57<fireonlive>aw damn
21:51:06<fireonlive>squatters are the worst
21:53:32<@JAA>https://github.com/kilianc/rtail/issues/128#issuecomment-417724840
21:53:40<@JAA>*crickets*
21:53:43<@JAA>:-/
21:54:39<@JAA>If it's just command output, here's a ridiculous idea: throw it into a container and use Dozzle or similar. :-P
21:54:57<fireonlive>oooh that would work xD
21:55:13<fireonlive>-v /path/to/file.log:/log:ro
21:55:17<fireonlive>haha
21:55:24<fireonlive>container: just tails the log
21:55:34<@JAA>A true microservice!
21:55:40<fireonlive>xD
21:55:42<fireonlive>yes!
21:56:17<@JAA>Oh, I just saw that the Seashells server is finally open-source since a few months ago! https://github.com/anishathalye/seashells-server
21:56:42<fireonlive>ooooh!
21:57:25<fireonlive>awesome possum ^_^
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21:59:36<fireonlive>tks :)
22:00:59<@JAA>I wonder how hard it'd be to slap TLS on it.
22:02:38<@JAA>I guess you could just put a reverse proxy in front of it and then use `openssl s_client` or similar instead of netcat.
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22:08:32<fireonlive>hmm yeah that should work
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22:08:53<fireonlive>`socat` seems ot be the new hotness as well but i haven't had a chance to look into it
22:09:10<fireonlive>"socat.x86_64 : Bidirectional data relay between two data channels ('netcat++')"
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22:09:44<fireonlive>seems to even support tls listening via openssl
22:09:58<fireonlive>hm, i should take a look at it
22:10:08<fireonlive>i've just been s_clienting :D
22:10:28<fireonlive>but someone else i know uses it all the time instead of s_client but i'm stuck in my old ways
22:10:39<fireonlive>just like me getting annoyed when `ifconfig` doesn't exist
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22:26:31<@JAA>Yeah, I guess `socat` would be the modern version.
22:26:40<@JAA>`openssl s_client` is great but has some fun quirks.
22:27:33<nicolas17>JAA: just do the cryptography by hand
22:28:05<nicolas17>JAA: here https://liothique.xyz/attached_files/ManuelAES_t.pdf
22:28:13<@JAA>xkcd 378 moment :-)
22:41:48<fireonlive>:d
22:41:52<fireonlive>anyone here use tailscale?
22:42:09<fireonlive>i've been finding over the past... couple days? week? it's been having some connectivity issues for me
22:42:32<fireonlive>then again to be fair i am still swapping like 20GB
22:42:40<fireonlive>i should fix that today because that's not great for the SSD
22:42:46<fireonlive>or my mental health
22:42:53<nicolas17>fireonlive: that's something I miss about mechanical disks
22:43:03<nicolas17>the audible feedback of "you're swapping"
22:43:09<fireonlive>ahh yes haha
22:43:18<fireonlive>when you *really* felt it
22:43:23<fireonlive>(and heard it)
22:43:52<nicolas17>I like the performance of swap on SSD, I want the noise back :P
22:45:17<fireonlive>wonder if there's something like modern cars have
22:45:27<fireonlive>where the engine noise is added on/fake
22:45:42<fireonlive>/played in the cabin, but just for hard drive noises
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22:45:47<@JAA>I've been wanting to play with tailscale and headscale but not yet.
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22:47:33<fireonlive>headscale seems interesting, and isn't like hated by the devs of tailscale either
22:47:56<fireonlive>i read somewhere they even get like headsup by tailscale if they're going to push a change that could break headscale
22:48:52<fireonlive>oh wow, something that doesn't use atlassian: https://status.tailscale.com
22:49:04<@JAA>I haven't been following it lately, but when it was originally built, they were very friendly, yeah.
22:49:06<fireonlive>https://github.com/tadhglewis/issue-status where one github issue = one status incident
22:49:24<@JAA>But it's useless without JS. D:
22:50:00<fireonlive>ah damn so it is
22:50:40<@JAA>But using an issue tracker for ... issues is neat. :-)
22:51:56<thuban>nicolas17: ditto. mechvibes for disk access?
22:53:08<fireonlive>ye :)
22:54:04<fireonlive>boooo github
22:54:05<thuban>(before i got a seedbox, i used to be able to tell when my internet went out by all the external drives going quiet...)
22:54:20<fireonlive>you can add .atom/.rss for some stuff but not /issues or /issues/<num> i guess :(
22:54:44<fireonlive>would be neat to monitor some projects that way but i guess there's always the api :d
22:57:11<fireonlive>my 'would be neat' list could kill an entire forrest
22:57:30<fireonlive>but sometimes i pluck something out of it and make life a tiny bit better?
22:57:33<imer>nicolas17: there is a solution for you! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZKttBr2Y8g ..kinda
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22:58:18<imer>oh come on xD
22:58:23<@JAA>fireonlive: https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/7871
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22:59:02<fireonlive>" RSS-Bridge has this functionality in the interim" :o and TIL openrss.org
22:59:17<@JAA>I remember an older one, too, but I can't find it in https://github.com/isaacs/github right now.
22:59:34<fireonlive>hmmm non-profit project
22:59:43<fireonlive>wonder if this person just means like "i don't make money from it"
22:59:49<fireonlive>or "i've filed a 501(c)3"
22:59:51<fireonlive>lol
23:00:53<fireonlive>:) thanks
23:01:10<fireonlive>time to create 300,000 channels on hackint with rss feeds
23:01:16<fireonlive>lol nah
23:01:31<thuban>imer: i've seen that one, but the sound just isn't quite right ;_;
23:03:55<nicolas17>"because the two apps are connected, the biggest users on Threads are the biggest users on Instagram, many of whom suck at writing"
23:04:17<fireonlive>you can still post thirst traps it seems
23:04:28<fireonlive>though they're not as high in number
23:05:10<nicolas17>https://jogblog.substack.com/p/facebooks-threads-is-so-depressing
23:05:32<fireonlive>@drewtoothpaste on threads says: "the reason this app is gross is because all apps need an early grind period where they have to show you only good shit that you want to see so they can build up a userbase. by starting with instagram's entire audience, threads has skipped this important phase"
23:06:17<fireonlive>me: threads privacy policy is so bad; also me: *download app*
23:07:51<fireonlive>honestly i have no idea wtf is going on in the feed
23:07:58<fireonlive>literal chaos
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