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04:48:01<saeed>hello.
04:49:36<saeed>there is a set of sites that are dedicated to old nokia linux phones (n900, n9, etc) which seem are going down.
04:50:42<saeed>their domains are maemo.org, wiki.maemo.org, and talk.maemo.org, could you help to archive it?
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05:02:41<@JAA>Hi saeed. Where did you get that information from that it's shutting down?
05:04:09<pokechu22>saeed: We've saved some of it in the past (https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=maemo.org and https://archive.org/search?query=originalurl%3A%28%2Amaemo.org%2A%29); talk.maemo.org and wiki.maemo.org were done about a year ago although it looks like it's been a while since we saved http://maemo.org/ itself (incidentally https://maemo.org/ is a login page but
05:04:11<pokechu22>http://maemo.org/ is fine)
05:09:59<saeed>JAA: services it was offering are going down one by one in few recent months, admins were notified a few months ago but since things aren't getting better i assume they can't rescue it for some reason.
05:10:18<saeed>pokechu22: thanks. :)
05:11:57<@JAA>Interesting. For context, I'm in their admin IRC channel since an archival effort a couple years ago. I haven't seen anything like that there.
05:13:04<@JAA>(Can't access talk.maemo.org because Anubis.)
05:13:39<pokechu22>hmm, that they would have set up https://talk.maemo.org/ in the first place indicates some level of activity
05:14:45<Fijxu|m>the one that set difficulty 5 for that thing
05:14:56<Fijxu|m>must have a threadripper and multithreaded JS or smth
05:16:18<saeed>irc is dead quiet since community began to shrink.
05:16:27<@JAA>Yeah, I actually didn't know they did that. But it looks like talk.m.o is hosted somewhere else than the rest of the site, possibly.
05:17:30<@JAA>In general, their infra is definitely aging and not very well-maintained.
05:18:51<@JAA>We should have pretty decent coverage of most things from a couple years ago.
05:19:00<@JAA>And I doubt there's been much new content since then.
05:20:28<tzt>talk.maemo.org is accessible via curl
05:20:52<saeed>JAA: are repositories for git and apt are archived too?
05:22:33<@JAA>saeed: I did https://archive.org/details/vcs.maemo.org_git_20200927 and https://archive.org/details/vcs.maemo.org_svn_20200927 back then.
05:23:36<saeed>i think the domain for git repos were called garage.m.o
05:24:03<@JAA>The garage was the project management platform but didn't actually host the repos IIRC.
05:24:20<@JAA>But those two items contain the repos referenced on garage.m.o.
05:24:32<saeed>i see.
05:24:45<@JAA>Where's the APT repo?
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05:26:08<saeed>http://repository.maemo.org
05:27:10<@JAA>Yeah, that was archived in 2020, too: https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/202009262344274q1c4
05:28:28<@JAA>(You can tell how much I remember from this. lol)
05:30:30<@JAA>Looks pretty dead currently, too.
05:34:55<saeed>:)
05:35:15<saeed>yeah i'm surprised how well you know of maemo's infra.
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05:36:48<@JAA>Well, the memories are coming back when things get mentioned, but I wouldn't be able to tell you much on my own.
05:37:34<@JAA>I believe the conclusion a couple years ago was that all their stuff should be well-covered, and if they actually intend to shut something down, I should probably hear about it in that admin channel.
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05:41:05<saeed>which admin channel?
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05:43:03<@JAA>Of maemo.org. Not sure it's intended to be public/open. I was invited there for coordination about the archival.
05:46:36<h2ibot>NichardRixon edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (-5, The full domain of kemono.party is excluded): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57088&oldid=57041
05:47:36<h2ibot>OrganJaws edited Roblox (+1330, /* Vital Signs */ Group walls are getting…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57089&oldid=54197
05:47:37<h2ibot>Brad edited In The Media (+1174, add tweakers IsoHunt article): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57090&oldid=56373
05:47:38<h2ibot>Arkiver uploaded File:Peing-icon.jpg: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3APeing-icon.jpg
05:48:52<@JAA>(Nope, not public.)
05:55:01<saeed>i see.
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06:36:05<Dango360>i should've read the edit message before submitting it
06:36:08<Dango360>whoops
06:36:46<Dango360>should be "date"
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07:23:59<twiswist>Test, test
07:24:22<twiswist>I didn't find the logs quick enough so I will ask whether namu.wiki has been mentioned here
07:26:45<twiswist>My source says it is a general-purpose Korean wiki that ballooned out of a Gundam wiki. Mods fought over "a fandom issue [...] and half of them left \n and now it's spiraling into anarchy"
07:28:58<twiswist>"people are quickly scrambling to fork the articles to other wiki platforms", but this was at least a couple of days ago and it's still up. I will reupload my sources to an image host, not Discord
07:30:18<twiswist>https://imgur.com/a/oXk133E (contains https://imgur.com/sZCIkMH and https://imgur.com/TN2vVKE )
07:31:55<twiswist>I will now AFK for 12 hours
07:31:56<h2ibot>TriangleDemon created Peing (+430, Created page with "{{Infobox project | title =…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=Peing
07:34:47<@JAA>No, I don't believe it's been mentioned.
07:35:53<twiswist>Here's what I know. It looks a lot like mediawiki but the URLs of history items seem to contain UUIDs, not incremental revision numbers (do they in MW???)
07:35:56<h2ibot>TriangleDemon uploaded File:Peing.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3APeing.png
07:35:57<h2ibot>TriangleDemon edited Peing (+32): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57095&oldid=57093
07:36:40<@JAA>Yeah, I was just looking at that. Seems like something custom.
07:36:43<twiswist>Accessing raw wikitext of revisions gives you a 403 and the UI seems to not expect this, I have not attempted to register to see if that helps yet
07:36:54<@JAA>The edit history is very scripty.
07:36:57<h2ibot>TriangleDemon edited Peing (+11): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57096&oldid=57095
07:37:15<twiswist>There is a subdomain, en.namu.wiki, which machine-translates articles; the Korean originals should be prioritized
07:38:49<twiswist>Wayback machine and all other datacenter IPs get blocked, it has been archiving the block page for a substantial amount of time, I assume it gets served with HTTP 200
07:38:58<@JAA>Is there a list of all articles somewhere?
07:39:27<twiswist>I have not looked around for one yet
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07:41:38<twiswist>I'll be away now
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07:46:51<@JAA>Edit history data loading seems to be pretty obfuscated, too.
07:54:25<BlankEclair>ooh, mediawiki and trying to ACL read permissions
07:54:29<BlankEclair>peanut butter and asbestos
07:54:30<@JAA>In any case, I've started an ArchiveBot job for it, which is at least getting something.
07:55:09<@JAA>If this is MediaWiki, it's very heavily modified. But it seems more likely to be something different to me.
07:55:54<BlankEclair>ah crap, i just assumed it was a mediawiki, sorry ^^;
07:56:36<BlankEclair>thought i was gonna rip ACLs a new one, sorry
07:59:39<@JAA>Raw page text is behind reCAPTCHA, too.
07:59:43<cruller>I often see ja.namu.wiki in search results. It's also generated by machine translation. Source: https://namu.wiki/w/%EB%82%98%EB%AC%B4%EC%9C%84%ED%82%A4/%EC%97%AD%EC%82%AC/%EA%B4%80%EC%84%A0%20%EC%B2%B4%EC%A0%9C/2023%EB%85%84~2024%EB%85%84#s-2.1.3
08:00:43<@JAA>If someone can figure out how the history and raw loading works, that'd be great.
08:01:42<@JAA>At least the wiki pages themselves as well as backlinks work fine without JS or obfuscation, so a simple recursive crawl (i.e. AB) should get a decent superficial copy.
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09:07:53<@JAA>The job went well until it didn't; it's now heavily rate-limited.
09:12:35<tzt>NamuWiki and a few other Korean wikis use their own proprietary wiki software called "The Seed" https://theseed.io/w/the%20seed https://librewiki.net/wiki/The_seed
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09:23:34<tzt>According to this page, the internal API for the seed engine wikis is encrypted and changes regularly https://www.alphawiki.org/w/the%20seed#s-8
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13:37:52<h2ibot>Hans5958 edited Peing (+4997, Complete page): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57097&oldid=57096
13:40:53<h2ibot>Hans5958 edited Main Page/Current Projects (+139, 🟢 Peing is up): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57098&oldid=57019
13:40:54<h2ibot>Hans5958 edited Peing (+21): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57099&oldid=57097
13:41:53<h2ibot>Hans5958 edited Peing (+9): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57100&oldid=57099
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13:55:02<Dango360>Hans5958: the warrior project html currently links to https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Peing-%E8%B3%AA%E5%95%8F%E7%AE%B1- ; should the page be moved or should the html be edited to the correct link?
13:57:55<h2ibot>Hans5958 created Peing-質問箱- (+19, Redirected page to [[Peing]]): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=Peing-%E8%B3%AA%E5%95%8F%E7%AE%B1-
13:58:19<Dango360>that'll work
13:58:20<Dango360>Hans5958++
13:58:20<eggdrop>[karma] 'Hans5958' now has 2 karma!
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17:40:38<Webuser333333>Hello guys. It's me again, and again with S.T.A.L.K.E.R.-themed FRPG forums request. Can anyone add these to their list? Thank you in advance: stalkeruz.com gsc-frpg.ucoz.ru svm-frpg.clan.su
17:44:28<h2ibot>Manu edited Mailman/2 (-67, Queued lists.ozlabs.org): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57102&oldid=57059
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17:48:29<h2ibot>Manu edited Mailman/2 (-42, Queued lists.freeswitch.org): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57103&oldid=57102
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18:09:17<Webuser411485>And please resend site with the WARCs, because i lost it again. I promise i will save it for the next time
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18:22:47<mr_t>has anything been discussed about this? https://www.reddit.com/r/Archiveteam/comments/1mxl80n/can_someone_help_preserve_this_massive_public/
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18:23:09<mr_t>it seems pretty urgent but I'm not seeing it in projects listed, and I'm not sure if I'm technical enough to try and build a "project" to run :X
18:23:53<phillipsjk>The topic of #archiveteam no longer lists this channel or the OT one.
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18:25:14<mr_t>I see it in the topic of #archiveteam ??
18:26:10<phillipsjk>now I get no topic set
18:27:00<phillipsjk>was: " Welcome to #archiveteam! Please only post urgent things here (e.g. websites' shutdown announcements) and use the channels mentioned in the topic for everything else. Note that this channel is publicly logged."
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18:56:23<steering>some servers lost the topic, happens
18:57:11<Webuser404737>Was my request accepted? Ji
18:57:24<Webuser404737>Just reloaded browser and messages dissapeared*
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23:05:35<Webuser652103>Excuse my ignorance, but would someone be able to supply me with the image address(es) of some projects that would need urgent help?
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