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04:48:01 | <saeed> | hello. |
04:49:36 | <saeed> | there is a set of sites that are dedicated to old nokia linux phones (n900, n9, etc) which seem are going down. |
04:50:42 | <saeed> | their domains are maemo.org, wiki.maemo.org, and talk.maemo.org, could you help to archive it? |
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05:02:41 | <@JAA> | Hi saeed. Where did you get that information from that it's shutting down? |
05:04:09 | <pokechu22> | saeed: We've saved some of it in the past (https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=maemo.org and https://archive.org/search?query=originalurl%3A%28%2Amaemo.org%2A%29); talk.maemo.org and wiki.maemo.org were done about a year ago although it looks like it's been a while since we saved http://maemo.org/ itself (incidentally https://maemo.org/ is a login page but |
05:04:11 | <pokechu22> | http://maemo.org/ is fine) |
05:09:59 | <saeed> | JAA: services it was offering are going down one by one in few recent months, admins were notified a few months ago but since things aren't getting better i assume they can't rescue it for some reason. |
05:10:18 | <saeed> | pokechu22: thanks. :) |
05:11:57 | <@JAA> | Interesting. For context, I'm in their admin IRC channel since an archival effort a couple years ago. I haven't seen anything like that there. |
05:13:04 | <@JAA> | (Can't access talk.maemo.org because Anubis.) |
05:13:39 | <pokechu22> | hmm, that they would have set up https://talk.maemo.org/ in the first place indicates some level of activity |
05:14:45 | <Fijxu|m> | the one that set difficulty 5 for that thing |
05:14:56 | <Fijxu|m> | must have a threadripper and multithreaded JS or smth |
05:16:18 | <saeed> | irc is dead quiet since community began to shrink. |
05:16:27 | <@JAA> | Yeah, I actually didn't know they did that. But it looks like talk.m.o is hosted somewhere else than the rest of the site, possibly. |
05:17:30 | <@JAA> | In general, their infra is definitely aging and not very well-maintained. |
05:18:51 | <@JAA> | We should have pretty decent coverage of most things from a couple years ago. |
05:19:00 | <@JAA> | And I doubt there's been much new content since then. |
05:20:28 | <tzt> | talk.maemo.org is accessible via curl |
05:20:52 | <saeed> | JAA: are repositories for git and apt are archived too? |
05:22:33 | <@JAA> | saeed: I did https://archive.org/details/vcs.maemo.org_git_20200927 and https://archive.org/details/vcs.maemo.org_svn_20200927 back then. |
05:23:36 | <saeed> | i think the domain for git repos were called garage.m.o |
05:24:03 | <@JAA> | The garage was the project management platform but didn't actually host the repos IIRC. |
05:24:20 | <@JAA> | But those two items contain the repos referenced on garage.m.o. |
05:24:32 | <saeed> | i see. |
05:24:45 | <@JAA> | Where's the APT repo? |
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05:26:08 | <saeed> | http://repository.maemo.org |
05:27:10 | <@JAA> | Yeah, that was archived in 2020, too: https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/202009262344274q1c4 |
05:28:28 | <@JAA> | (You can tell how much I remember from this. lol) |
05:30:30 | <@JAA> | Looks pretty dead currently, too. |
05:34:55 | <saeed> | :) |
05:35:15 | <saeed> | yeah i'm surprised how well you know of maemo's infra. |
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05:36:48 | <@JAA> | Well, the memories are coming back when things get mentioned, but I wouldn't be able to tell you much on my own. |
05:37:34 | <@JAA> | I believe the conclusion a couple years ago was that all their stuff should be well-covered, and if they actually intend to shut something down, I should probably hear about it in that admin channel. |
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05:41:05 | <saeed> | which admin channel? |
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05:43:03 | <@JAA> | Of maemo.org. Not sure it's intended to be public/open. I was invited there for coordination about the archival. |
05:46:36 | <h2ibot> | NichardRixon edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (-5, The full domain of kemono.party is excluded): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57088&oldid=57041 |
05:47:36 | <h2ibot> | OrganJaws edited Roblox (+1330, /* Vital Signs */ Group walls are getting…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57089&oldid=54197 |
05:47:37 | <h2ibot> | Brad edited In The Media (+1174, add tweakers IsoHunt article): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57090&oldid=56373 |
05:47:38 | <h2ibot> | Arkiver uploaded File:Peing-icon.jpg: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3APeing-icon.jpg |
05:48:52 | <@JAA> | (Nope, not public.) |
05:55:01 | <saeed> | i see. |
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06:36:05 | <Dango360> | i should've read the edit message before submitting it |
06:36:08 | <Dango360> | whoops |
06:36:46 | <Dango360> | should be "date" |
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07:23:59 | <twiswist> | Test, test |
07:24:22 | <twiswist> | I didn't find the logs quick enough so I will ask whether namu.wiki has been mentioned here |
07:26:45 | <twiswist> | My source says it is a general-purpose Korean wiki that ballooned out of a Gundam wiki. Mods fought over "a fandom issue [...] and half of them left \n and now it's spiraling into anarchy" |
07:28:58 | <twiswist> | "people are quickly scrambling to fork the articles to other wiki platforms", but this was at least a couple of days ago and it's still up. I will reupload my sources to an image host, not Discord |
07:30:18 | <twiswist> | https://imgur.com/a/oXk133E (contains https://imgur.com/sZCIkMH and https://imgur.com/TN2vVKE ) |
07:31:55 | <twiswist> | I will now AFK for 12 hours |
07:31:56 | <h2ibot> | TriangleDemon created Peing (+430, Created page with "{{Infobox project | title =…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=Peing |
07:34:47 | <@JAA> | No, I don't believe it's been mentioned. |
07:35:53 | <twiswist> | Here's what I know. It looks a lot like mediawiki but the URLs of history items seem to contain UUIDs, not incremental revision numbers (do they in MW???) |
07:35:56 | <h2ibot> | TriangleDemon uploaded File:Peing.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3APeing.png |
07:35:57 | <h2ibot> | TriangleDemon edited Peing (+32): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57095&oldid=57093 |
07:36:40 | <@JAA> | Yeah, I was just looking at that. Seems like something custom. |
07:36:43 | <twiswist> | Accessing raw wikitext of revisions gives you a 403 and the UI seems to not expect this, I have not attempted to register to see if that helps yet |
07:36:54 | <@JAA> | The edit history is very scripty. |
07:36:57 | <h2ibot> | TriangleDemon edited Peing (+11): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57096&oldid=57095 |
07:37:15 | <twiswist> | There is a subdomain, en.namu.wiki, which machine-translates articles; the Korean originals should be prioritized |
07:38:49 | <twiswist> | Wayback machine and all other datacenter IPs get blocked, it has been archiving the block page for a substantial amount of time, I assume it gets served with HTTP 200 |
07:38:58 | <@JAA> | Is there a list of all articles somewhere? |
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07:39:27 | <twiswist> | I have not looked around for one yet |
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07:40:30 | <twiswist> | Reconnecting... |
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07:41:38 | <twiswist> | I'll be away now |
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07:46:51 | <@JAA> | Edit history data loading seems to be pretty obfuscated, too. |
07:54:25 | <BlankEclair> | ooh, mediawiki and trying to ACL read permissions |
07:54:29 | <BlankEclair> | peanut butter and asbestos |
07:54:30 | <@JAA> | In any case, I've started an ArchiveBot job for it, which is at least getting something. |
07:55:09 | <@JAA> | If this is MediaWiki, it's very heavily modified. But it seems more likely to be something different to me. |
07:55:54 | <BlankEclair> | ah crap, i just assumed it was a mediawiki, sorry ^^; |
07:56:36 | <BlankEclair> | thought i was gonna rip ACLs a new one, sorry |
07:59:39 | <@JAA> | Raw page text is behind reCAPTCHA, too. |
07:59:43 | <cruller> | I often see ja.namu.wiki in search results. It's also generated by machine translation. Source: https://namu.wiki/w/%EB%82%98%EB%AC%B4%EC%9C%84%ED%82%A4/%EC%97%AD%EC%82%AC/%EA%B4%80%EC%84%A0%20%EC%B2%B4%EC%A0%9C/2023%EB%85%84~2024%EB%85%84#s-2.1.3 |
08:00:43 | <@JAA> | If someone can figure out how the history and raw loading works, that'd be great. |
08:01:42 | <@JAA> | At least the wiki pages themselves as well as backlinks work fine without JS or obfuscation, so a simple recursive crawl (i.e. AB) should get a decent superficial copy. |
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09:07:53 | <@JAA> | The job went well until it didn't; it's now heavily rate-limited. |
09:12:35 | <tzt> | NamuWiki and a few other Korean wikis use their own proprietary wiki software called "The Seed" https://theseed.io/w/the%20seed https://librewiki.net/wiki/The_seed |
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09:23:34 | <tzt> | According to this page, the internal API for the seed engine wikis is encrypted and changes regularly https://www.alphawiki.org/w/the%20seed#s-8 |
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13:37:52 | <h2ibot> | Hans5958 edited Peing (+4997, Complete page): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57097&oldid=57096 |
13:40:53 | <h2ibot> | Hans5958 edited Main Page/Current Projects (+139, 🟢 Peing is up): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57098&oldid=57019 |
13:40:54 | <h2ibot> | Hans5958 edited Peing (+21): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57099&oldid=57097 |
13:41:53 | <h2ibot> | Hans5958 edited Peing (+9): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57100&oldid=57099 |
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13:55:02 | <Dango360> | Hans5958: the warrior project html currently links to https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Peing-%E8%B3%AA%E5%95%8F%E7%AE%B1- ; should the page be moved or should the html be edited to the correct link? |
13:57:55 | <h2ibot> | Hans5958 created Peing-質問箱- (+19, Redirected page to [[Peing]]): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=Peing-%E8%B3%AA%E5%95%8F%E7%AE%B1- |
13:58:19 | <Dango360> | that'll work |
13:58:20 | <Dango360> | Hans5958++ |
13:58:20 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'Hans5958' now has 2 karma! |
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17:40:38 | <Webuser333333> | Hello guys. It's me again, and again with S.T.A.L.K.E.R.-themed FRPG forums request. Can anyone add these to their list? Thank you in advance: stalkeruz.com gsc-frpg.ucoz.ru svm-frpg.clan.su |
17:44:28 | <h2ibot> | Manu edited Mailman/2 (-67, Queued lists.ozlabs.org): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57102&oldid=57059 |
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17:48:29 | <h2ibot> | Manu edited Mailman/2 (-42, Queued lists.freeswitch.org): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57103&oldid=57102 |
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18:09:17 | <Webuser411485> | And please resend site with the WARCs, because i lost it again. I promise i will save it for the next time |
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18:22:47 | <mr_t> | has anything been discussed about this? https://www.reddit.com/r/Archiveteam/comments/1mxl80n/can_someone_help_preserve_this_massive_public/ |
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18:23:09 | <mr_t> | it seems pretty urgent but I'm not seeing it in projects listed, and I'm not sure if I'm technical enough to try and build a "project" to run :X |
18:23:53 | <phillipsjk> | The topic of #archiveteam no longer lists this channel or the OT one. |
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18:25:14 | <mr_t> | I see it in the topic of #archiveteam ?? |
18:26:10 | <phillipsjk> | now I get no topic set |
18:27:00 | <phillipsjk> | was: " Welcome to #archiveteam! Please only post urgent things here (e.g. websites' shutdown announcements) and use the channels mentioned in the topic for everything else. Note that this channel is publicly logged." |
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18:56:23 | <steering> | some servers lost the topic, happens |
18:57:11 | <Webuser404737> | Was my request accepted? Ji |
18:57:24 | <Webuser404737> | Just reloaded browser and messages dissapeared* |
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21:23:41 | <f_> | phillipsjk: 23:23 ::: Topic for #archiveteam: Thanks, we know about Reddit → #shreddit | Let us know about shuttering websites and services. Put it on https://archiveteam.org/?title=Deathwatch or we may forget to save |
21:23:44 | <f_> | it! | Archive Team: We're not archive.org | https://archiveteam.org/ | Discussion: #archiveteam-bs | Offtopic: #archiveteam-ot |
21:24:02 | <f_> | connected to palermo.hackint.org |
21:24:13 | <f_> | and you seem to be connected to vindobona - 23:23 ::: Server: vindobona.hackint.org The HackINT irc network |
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23:05:35 | <Webuser652103> | Excuse my ignorance, but would someone be able to supply me with the image address(es) of some projects that would need urgent help? |
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