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00:08:28<Dango360>https://romhack.ing/database/news/entry/DW8BKnRHSEqaGDwXTiKjMw romhack.ing's IA mirror is being discontinued. "We are open to alternative solutions and support on the matter."
00:15:01<nicolas17>D:
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00:48:43<h2ibot>Cooljeanius edited Peing (+32, use URL template): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57104&oldid=57100
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04:45:32<Hans5958><Dango360> "Hans5958: the warrior project..." <- For the record I didn't see your chat (I just randomly visited the repo and saw that the link is wrong), but yeah I would put a redirect on it
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05:25:17<pabs>anonymoususer852: SWH SCN can do tarball submission, but it is restricted to certain users. I can do it if you pass me the URL. not sure how they feel about archiving off the WBM instead of off the original URL though
05:25:39<pabs>justauser|m: ^
05:29:28<h2ibot>Cooljeanius edited Governments on YouTube (+89, /* United States */ add NNLM): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57105&oldid=56845
05:42:38<pabs>pokechu22: looks like your arcgis archiving skills are needed on https://old.reddit.com/r/Archiveteam/comments/1mxl80n/can_someone_help_preserve_this_massive_public/
05:43:01<pabs>https://old.reddit.com/r/gis/comments/1lkol3s/sad_news_hifld_open_to_be_discontinued_by_sept_30/
05:44:24<pokechu22>Will look into that. I've got a ton of arcgis sites that I prepared URL lists for but haven't ran them yet
05:45:24<pokechu22>note that my script doesn't handle raster tile data, but does handle any of the underlying vector data
05:47:30<h2ibot>TriangleDemon edited Colors! (+397): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57106&oldid=57020
05:48:30<h2ibot>TriangleDemon edited Colors! (-18): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57107&oldid=57106
05:49:30<h2ibot>TriangleDemon edited Ftp-gov (+4): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57108&oldid=55878
05:50:30<h2ibot>Cooljeanius edited Governments on YouTube (+93, /* United States */ add USCSB): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57109&oldid=57105
06:12:26<pokechu22>I also don't actually have a good setup from going from something like https://hifld-geoplatform.hub.arcgis.com/ (mainly https://hifld-geoplatform.hub.arcgis.com/datasets) to a list of URLs like https://gis.fema.gov/arcgis/rest/services but I see someone generated a CSV of those
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06:21:54<pokechu22>pabs: moving to #UncleSamsArchive
07:01:05<anonymoususer852>"SWH SCN can do tarball submission..." I noticed that, but I fired off an e-mail instead as my case is with an old FTP mirror that I uploaded to IA, not in WARC format, and that I'm kinda needing to work with tarballs and all from mainly WBM. Is there a dedicated IRC channel for SWH? doesn't appear to be one on Hackint, and I'm unsure of the validity of that on AT's wiki;
07:01:11<anonymoususer852>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Software_Heritage but I'll get pop around and check.
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07:03:52<anonymoususer852>I've also created an account, made a few git archive requests to SWH using their browser add-on. How would they handle multiple tarballs regardless if it's from WBM or not? would it end up being individual git-like repo or something? curious.
07:04:28<anonymoususer852>s/get\ pop/pop/
07:08:17<anonymoususer852>There's also shar files that I was hoping SWH could handle, but either way, these were included in that lengthy email of mine that I wrote earlier on. shar and software modifications to an upstream software, e.g. postgresql but offered as patch(es) only.
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08:32:11<pabs>anonymoususer852: #swh on libera is bot-bridged to their Matrix chat (dropped IRC a while ago)
08:33:18<pabs>hmm, not sure if .shar is supported, I'm guessing not though
08:33:44<pabs>I think each tarball ends up as a snapshot
08:37:27<pabs>don't think patches-only would be supported yet, but there are lots of those out there, like patchwork.kernel.org
08:39:48<pabs>also, #codearchiver is probably a better AT channel for SWH-adjacent stuff
08:53:18<anonymoususer852>Interesting that they bot-bridged it, I noticed they have the -dev channel on their SWH website, but that's apparently for devs. I had an eerie feeling that my complicated request that I sent off might end up being me sorting it out into a repository that they can then simply mirror, instead of a more idealistic position where I could have a git like account on SWH to upload and arrange
08:53:24<anonymoususer852>all these in a particular fashion.
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08:59:40<anonymoususer852>The beauty of software development and distribution methods on internet before it became what it is. FTP dumps in general, being a snapshot of the chaos of the past era, just doesn't translate well when those ancient software files needs a ton of love to live somehow in 2025.
09:03:38<anonymoususer852>I've mused myself on a possible reason why that FTP dump that I shared, doesn't reflect the contents of the actual server. One being the fact that the (new) website maintainer saw the contents of their FTP hosting stuff from like the 1990s, said, "wtf is this mess? delete it."
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09:07:52<@arkiver>do we have a pipeline in AB with US IP? for archiving https://rems.ed.gov/
09:22:39<pabs>anonymoususer852: -dev is bot-bridged too
09:41:27<anonymoususer852>Yea. It's a good thing that they also have a hangout on IRC.
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10:39:14<f_>anonymoususer852: -offtopic is also bridged
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11:24:33<anonymoususer852>I assume -sysadm is also bridged. There's #swh-sysadm on LiberaChat, according to alis (a bot on LiberaChat). Either way, this calls for update on that AT wiki entry.
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11:28:22<h2ibot>Anonymoususer852 edited Software Heritage (+1553, Added table of IRC channels related to project…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57110&oldid=55521
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12:38:48<Webuser725513>Hello guys. Sorry for bothering and annoying u, but I made request about few forums and link for archivebot monitoring website yesterday, and unfortunately couldnt read the answer. Could anyone please share the link and inform me about my request? I would be very grateful
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13:44:32<pabs>anonymoususer852: maybe split the other archives thing out into a separate section below the IRC channels?
13:50:47<h2ibot>Manu edited Discourse/archived (+83, Queued forums.digi.com): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57111&oldid=57050
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15:41:38<Webuser202990>In addition to previous: does anyone know If its still impossible to somehow archive a cloudflare-protected site?
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15:50:36<Webuser158318>Hello guys, can I make a request? Here's the link: https://the-moving-finger.diary.space. Thank you in advance!
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16:43:42<justauser|m>pabs: I don't think there are restrictions on tarball submission, other then the normal domain black/white list.
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16:56:14<h2ibot>Anonymoususer852 edited Software Heritage (+108, Split other software archives into separate…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57112&oldid=57110
16:57:47<justauser|m>When did Codeberg become a software archive?
17:02:01<anonymoususer852>A code repository. I witnessed a few former GitHub users migrated away to the likes of Codeberg, following Microsoft's ownership and the whole Copilot thing. Could be wrong with associating all that as software archive though.
17:03:14<Webuser158318>by the way, is it me or https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/ is not working anymore? I remember there was a queue of sites here
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17:05:05<anonymoususer852>If we're going as far as listing GitHub as software archive; https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Software_Heritage&oldid=50949 may as well start listing other code archives, considering they're all related.
17:05:17<justauser|m>Queue is at http://archivebot.com.
17:05:40<justauser|m>We are listing the GitHub project as an archive.
17:07:39<anonymoususer852>As a former AT project? there's also GitLab page on the same wiki that was facing some issues.
17:09:15<h2ibot>Anonymoususer852 edited Software Heritage (-25, Partial revert, Github is AT project.): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57113&oldid=57112
17:10:48<anonymoususer852>Stuff it. I do think there needs to be more clarity on that to prevent confusion.
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17:13:16<h2ibot>Anonymoususer852 edited Software Heritage (+3, /* Other software archives */ Gitorious was saved.): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57114&oldid=57113
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17:17:25<Webuser158318>justauser|m, thanks!
17:19:09<Webuser158318>and thanks in advance for eeryone who accepts my requests, becaus I most likely won't be able to answer personally
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17:43:53<anonymoususer852>Re: archivebot/viewer. You mean https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/jobs ?
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17:54:11<Webuser714846>anonymoususer852, no, i meant archivebot.com, first reply was correct. Thank you anyway
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18:24:26<pokechu22>arkiver: pokepipe and tantalus are in the US (but with netcup, who is a german provider and sometimes geoips to outside of the US even if the machines are physically in the US). bonkpipe and nullpipe are also in the US but nulldata doesn't want .gov/.mil sites ran on it. andean-kat is also in the US but has a small disk and generally is reserved for sites requiring better IP
18:24:28<pokechu22>reputation.
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23:12:27<pabs>justauser|m: hmm, ok. they had to allowlist my account for me to see tarballs in SCN as an option. maybe they changed the access requirements since then
23:14:17<h2ibot>TriangleDemon edited YouTube (-13): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57115&oldid=57028
23:19:17<h2ibot>TriangleDemon edited List of largest ArchiveTeam projects (+0): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57116&oldid=56948
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23:28:18<h2ibot>PaulWise edited Anubis (+181, anubis_offload): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57117&oldid=56570
23:28:19<h2ibot>TriangleDemon edited Reddit (+427): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57118&oldid=57031
23:28:46<nicolas17>if URL A redirects to URL B, and I make a list containing both A and B and feed it into archivebot, will it download B only once?
23:29:13<nicolas17>or will it make a request to B from the A redirect and another from B itself being present in the list?
23:29:45<@JAA>Redirect targets are not deduplicated.
23:29:59<@JAA>https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/wpull/issues/431
23:30:34<nicolas17>if I already know A redirects to B, would it make sense to leave B out of the list then?
23:31:15<@JAA>Yeah. And probably double-check afterwards that it really did fetch what you expected.
23:32:19<nicolas17>(also I assume it makes no difference whether A is before or after B in the list?)
23:32:33<@JAA>Correct
23:34:19<h2ibot>PaulWise edited Software Heritage (+13, change wording to clarify, fix swh-sysadm link): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57119&oldid=57114
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