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01:56:20<@OrIdow6>joepie91|m: The weird thing is that he says he'll both work to transfer stuff over to the new site, AND make material from inactive users public
01:56:38<@OrIdow6>And they seem to be a coherent community enough
01:56:40<@OrIdow6>But whatever
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13:43:51<h2ibot>Usernam edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+27, …): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54239&oldid=54224
13:46:52<h2ibot>Usernam edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+0): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54240&oldid=54239
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19:46:37<szczot3k>Webuser289145 do you have a shutdown announcement for this portal?
19:47:21<Webuser289145>Yes. Here's a news article: https://aristeguinoticias.com/1401/mexico/solicitan-al-inai-15-millones-de-documentos-con-informacion-publica-mediante-operacion-transparencia/
19:48:06<szczot3k>So the agency running the site is shutting down, right?
19:48:27<Webuser289145>Right
19:49:24<szczot3k>It's heavy cloudflare, so might be hard/impossible to archive, maybe someone with AB access wants to chime in here
19:49:31<pokechu22>I did briefly look at it and https://www.plataformadetransparencia.org.mx is probably savable, but https://consultapublicamx.plataformadetransparencia.org.mx/vut-web/faces/view/consultaPublica.xhtml#inicio seems to be behind cloudflare
19:49:54<pokechu22>ah, no, https://www.plataformadetransparencia.org.mx/Inicio has cloudflare too :|
19:50:14<szczot3k>Quite a few subdomains, all of them behind cloudflare, some even with their captcha
19:50:21<Webuser289145>Whatever it can possibly be rescued would be good
19:50:33<szczot3k>Almost all of the actually significant content is behind CF
19:50:48<Webuser289145>And there's no way around it?
19:51:37<szczot3k>For archiving 15 milion documents? Not really a good way around it, especially if the agency's IT team knows what they're doing
19:52:04<@JAA>It's not a strict Buttflare config.
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19:52:54<@JAA>But it is very scripty.
19:53:01<Webuser289145>Maybe not all the documents themselves but at least the web part that points to them?
19:53:13<Webuser289145>To have at least a portion of it
19:53:14<szczot3k>JAA as far as I can see main interest is in the "Información Pública" section, which is behind a cf captcha
19:53:44<@JAA>Ah, yeah
19:53:59<@JAA>I was only poking https://www.plataformadetransparencia.org.mx/Inicio , which does serve a challenge from some places but not others.
19:54:28<szczot3k>Captcha for the actually important stuff, login pages, or a search form for others
19:54:37<Webuser289145>At least to have an idea of what is going to be lost :(
19:58:03<szczot3k>Webuser289145 I see pokechu22 starting some ab jobs on #archivebot
19:58:40<Webuser289145>What are ab jobs?
19:59:05<pokechu22>ab = archivebot
19:59:11<Webuser289145>cool
20:03:36<Webuser289145>Where can I see the jobs?
20:03:54<@JAA>http://archivebot.com/
20:04:32<@JAA>Though they finished already and didn't grab much.
20:10:53<Webuser289145>In a while I can see it in archive.org?
20:15:09<@JAA>Yes, it will be in the Wayback Machine within a few days.
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20:35:09<Webuser289145>Great, thank you!
20:39:08<Webuser289145>I can't find the job on archivebot.com
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20:44:53<@JAA>Yes, because it finished. The dashboard only shows currently running jobs.
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20:54:08<Webuser289145>Thank you
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22:09:53<eggdrop>[remind] k: grab https://forums.othernet.is/t/shutting-down-forum/7980 again? cc myself
22:10:25<katia>hmm seems it moved to https://dreamcatcher.tynet.eu/
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22:13:46<szczot3k>the irony, Cloudflare uses WBM for their "Cloudflare always online", but at the same time, they make putting sites into WBM (extremely) hard
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22:28:10<szczot3k>(This website forums.othernet.is/t/shutting-down-forum/7980 is currently offline. Cloudflare's Always Online™ shows a snapshot of this web page from the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine. To check for the live version, click Refresh.)
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22:46:41<TheTechRobo>szczot3k: Always Online is opt-in, as are the security settings that cause us issues (most of the time).
22:48:01<TheTechRobo>Source: My stuff is behind Cloudflare on the "Low" security setting, and I've never had any issues reaching it, even from curl and the like
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23:05:30<Webuser913720>Good Afternoon everyone, A very old and large forum called TheGameCreators Forum is being shut down on February 10th. This forum has not only been influential in internet pop culture, but also hosts a wealth of information regarding various software such as DarkBasic, DarkBasic Pro, App Game Kit, FPS Creator, etc. This forum is the only place to
23:05:30<Webuser913720>find relevant and helpful information in scripting, troubleshooting, etc for these products. In addition, the indie game projects found in this forum will be lost as well. I've attempted to archive some of it myself using tools like HTTrack but have been unsuccessful. I suspect it may be due to the website's Cloudflare protection. Would it be at
23:05:30<Webuser913720>all possible to archive this forum before it is all lost? An assistance is appreciated.
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23:10:27<nicolas17>Webuser913720: link
23:10:37<nicolas17>cloudflare can cause us problems too though
23:11:49<Webuser913720>https://forum.thegamecreators.com/
23:12:16<Webuser913720>I was afraid you might say that. But you're all more experienced than me.
23:13:17<nicolas17>200k threads...
23:14:43<Webuser913720>Yeah its decades worth of stuff. Does this sound unrealistic?
23:15:06<nicolas17>JAA: should I just throw it into archivebot and see what happens?
23:15:50<nulldata>nicolas17 - just tried. Instant 403'd. Got another attempt in queue but not hopeful.
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23:18:36<eggdrop>[karma] 'Discord' now has -21 karma!
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23:18:58<eggdrop>[karma] 'Buttflare' now has -85 karma!
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23:35:45<nicolas17>Webuser913720: yeah cloudflare is blocking us... any chance the owners can be convinced to lower the security level? :P
23:37:32<Webuser913720>Possibly. I've already emailed them asking for either their database files or to remove the Cloudflare protection. Just waiting for their response.
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