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03:21:35<pabs>who runs https://transfer.archivete.am/ ? it is down
03:23:55<@OrIdow6>JAA I believe?
03:24:48<nicolas17>JAA is a good choice for default blaming either way
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03:26:56<monoxane>when in doubt, blame JAA
03:27:59<@JAA>Yeah, I do, and: 2025-01-08 07:33:06 UTC <@JAA> transfer's being worked on. It might be a bit slower than usual, and if it breaks, well, that's the reason.
03:28:33<@JAA>(That got delayed a bit for $reasons.)
03:40:22<@JAA>Maintenance is complete. If you see any issues, please let me know.
03:40:24<@JAA>pabs: ^
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04:48:14<@OrIdow6>Sent a contact letter to CoiledFist
04:48:32<@OrIdow6>!remindme 16 blackletter
04:48:32<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2025-01-14T16:00:00Z
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05:21:59<@JAA>FWIW, my attempts earlier with AB got Buttflared.
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08:05:37<@arkiver>JAA: yeah seems like the site may have been small enough for AB otherwise
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08:34:43<@arkiver>a project is coming for retrospring
08:35:00<@arkiver>this will be independent from the project done back in 2015 to archive some of it after its first shut down
08:35:16<@arkiver>shutting down March 1st
08:48:19<that_lurker>do we have a channel for that yet?
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09:12:50<Emitewiki>For interactable PDF viewers like the ones seen here: https://issuu.com/activemediapublishinggroup/docs/mon_inde_community_advantage_magazine_aug24
09:12:50<Emitewiki>Can anyone think of a clever way we could have a bot preserve the functionality when we archive the pages?
09:13:28<Emitewiki>Because right now I think the actual contents within the magazines for PDF viewers like this aren't preserved due to the use of Javascript, right?
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11:05:47<@arkiver>that_lurker: no but we need one :)
11:18:07<that_lurker>#retrosplode or #retroboing might be fun names for it
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12:18:07<that_lurker>also maybe #retrosprung
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12:44:28<masterx244|m>#gnirps could also work (spring in reverse)
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13:29:38<DigitalDragons>#driedup
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15:09:11<@arkiver>i kind of like #driedup
15:14:55<that_lurker>thats a good one
15:15:24<@arkiver>alright let's go with #driedup for retrospring
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15:54:35<aninternettroll>hi, can someone throw https://mcbe.wtf/ in the archive bucket? Not in danger, just has low coverage on the wayback machine and it's a small site
16:00:00<eggdrop>[remind] OrIdow6: blackletter
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16:26:31<c3manu>aninternettroll: sure
16:37:51<c3manu>aninternettroll: done
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16:44:56<aninternettroll>thanks!
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16:53:39<h2ibot>DigitalDragon edited Retrospring (+39, Add IRC chanel, and years for older information): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54237&oldid=54094
17:00:49<LddPotato>arkiver: how long would it normally take before a docker image is available from the project announcement? not trying to rush, just curious and wanting to hop on immediatly...
17:04:17<nicolas17>the code hasn't been written yet https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/retrospring-grab
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17:08:26<@JAA>It varies wildly. There is no 'normal' time.
17:09:39<nicolas17>we can estimate "code on github" to "docker image available" because that's mostly automated
17:09:48<@JAA>It's not.
17:10:18<@JAA>We can estimate that for after the automation has been set up, and that's on the order of a minute or two.
17:10:20<DigitalDragons>hmm, should I separate the infobox on that page into a 2025 and 2015 one?
17:10:28<nicolas17>JAA: it's a bounded amount of work to do, unlike *writing* the grab code :P
17:10:39<@JAA>nicolas17: I mean, that's still bounded. :-P
17:11:27<@JAA>DigitalDragons: We've usually just done it with years as you did there.
17:12:28<LddPotato>JAA: Thanks, i'll just keep lurking then
17:15:26<@arkiver>when a notice pops up on IRC about an icon being uploaded to the wiki for the project by me, it's usually a strong sign it's starting within the next day or two days
17:16:01<@arkiver>LddPotato: ^
17:17:46<h2ibot>DigitalDragon edited Retrospring (+185, add source and lead (2025)): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=54238&oldid=54237
17:21:03<LddPotato>arkiver: is there alot of customization required in the pipeline & lua scripts or are they mostly copies of earlier projects?
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18:33:50<@JAA>LddPotato: There's a bunch of boilerplate code, but each project needs a considerable amount of custom logic.
18:34:01<@JAA>So, both.
18:34:15<TheTechRobo>Depends on the exact nature of the project. If it's mostly HTML, it's generally pretty straightforward. If the site is scripty, it gets more complicated.
18:34:25<TheTechRobo>Ah, ninja'd
18:35:12<TheTechRobo>Most sites nowadays are scripty, unfortunately.
18:38:50<nulldata>LddPotato - Notifications are also available in #at-changes
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21:20:34<@OrIdow6>So the Coiledfist owner got back to me
21:21:30<@OrIdow6>Saying they don't want a copy made and that they'll migrate their stuff to the offshoot site they don't run
21:21:39<@OrIdow6>(Why not just transfer ownership then? I don't get it)
21:22:51<@OrIdow6>Also user control pertaining to "personally-identifiable photos"
21:25:52<@OrIdow6>If anyone wants a full copy of their email lmk
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21:44:57<@OrIdow6>Thinking of what to do, maybe I'll see about making a copy and having them block the whole thing in the wbm or something, I just don't see their plan as being pulled off without a hitch
21:46:08<joepie91|m><Orldow6> (Why not just transfer ownership then? I don't get it)
21:46:59<joepie91|m>it might be because they do not want to give control over potentially private data to someone that's a total stranger to the users, without their consent?
21:47:23<joepie91|m>similar conclusions are regularly drawn in the fediverse and it is why instances often choose to shut down rather than transfer owners
21:47:43<joepie91|m>as collecting consent would be a ton of work and so letting people migrate is more reliable
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21:49:49<LddPotato>nulldata: thanks, more to lurk...
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