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00:51:14 | <h2ibot> | TheTechRobo edited Post News (+102, Add deadline): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=52271&oldid=52266 |
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02:21:35 | <StarletCharlotte> | Does anyone want to run an archivebot job or something on this open directory? https://theretroverse.com/wp-content/uploads/ |
02:25:08 | <StarletCharlotte> | It's run by the NESMaker team and has a lot of games in it. It's still being added to regularly, though I'm worried the directory will be made closed at some point. |
02:28:30 | <fireonlive> | StarletCharlotte: are they linked to from the main site? |
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02:30:14 | <StarletCharlotte> | fireonlive: A lot of them are, a lot of them aren't. |
02:30:51 | <StarletCharlotte> | Including some beta builds of some games in the Allison of Astra series. |
02:31:11 | <StarletCharlotte> | No idea why those are there, but they are. |
02:33:51 | <@JAA> | We should probably run the site with an ignore for /wp-content/uploads/ and a separate job for that. But AB's kind of busy right now. |
02:34:35 | <StarletCharlotte> | Alrighty. I'm guessing it's gonna be in the queue for a while, then? |
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05:28:22 | <@JAA> | arkiver: Did you get any response about pad.riseup.net? I see it's back up. |
05:36:19 | <@arkiver> | JAA: yeah they had an issue for a few hours and hoped to fix it within a day |
05:37:00 | <@JAA> | :-) |
06:01:23 | <fireonlive> | :) |
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18:25:13 | <nicolas17> | before Twitter locked things down further, we used to be able to archive tweets... how? archivebot? where *is* that data? |
18:27:29 | <nicolas17> | https://archive.org/details/twitterstream?sort=-date looks like there's some stuff here |
18:29:50 | <that_lurker> | a lot was done with nitter and nitter self hosted stuff through AB |
18:34:07 | <nicolas17> | I told the person who asked that the stuff in twitterstream is kind of old |
18:34:27 | <nicolas17> | and he said "that's okay it will have less racist content then" x_x |
18:35:19 | <pokechu22> | socialbot used archivebot for outlinks from tweets but the tweets themselves were saved in a different way, not sure where they ended up exactly |
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19:03:05 | <eggdrop> | [tell] whoom: [2024-04-22T22:27:41Z] <pokechu22> The only info on the WBM is https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://z6.invisionfree.com/Ponyville/* - and there probably aren't any other archives (or at least no other ones that could easily be found) |
19:03:28 | <whoom> | Nearly dead forum: https://www.everypony.com/forums/ |
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19:04:35 | <that_lurker> | lol |
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20:43:12 | <thuban> | iirc / spot-checking old logs, socialbot used snscrape to generate a list of outlinks _and_ tweet links, which it sent to archivebot (plus started a non-recursive chromebot job for the user page) |
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20:44:33 | <pokechu22> | Right, but archivebot was ran with the notweets igset so it wouldn't actually save the tweet links (at least later on) |
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20:45:02 | <iiaq> | Hi |
20:45:15 | <fireonlive> | iiaq: what's up |
20:45:27 | <iiaq> | Can you help me upload WARCs so they are viewable on the Wayback Machine? |
20:45:28 | <thuban> | pokechu22: til, not sure how tweets were saved after that change then |
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20:47:11 | <fireonlive> | iiaq: you can upload them to a regular item and they'll be put in an appropriate collection (the warc zone) automatically, but unfortunately they can't be added to the wayback machine |
20:47:20 | <fireonlive> | (also note that we aren't the internet archive) |
20:47:24 | <iiaq> | Why? |
20:47:58 | <thuban> | because there's no way for the internet archive to determine whether they're genuine |
20:47:59 | <nicolas17> | iiaq: how do we know your WARCs are pristine and unmodified? |
20:48:34 | <iiaq> | Well they aren't done yet. I just started. How can I make them in such a way that they can be uploaded? |
20:49:01 | <fireonlive> | the best way is to ask here for a site to be archived and perhaps it can be run in #archivebot |
20:49:28 | <iiaq> | Does ArchiveBot work with sites that require logins? |
20:49:55 | <fireonlive> | unfortunately not, content behind a login wall cannot be added to the wayback machine |
20:50:23 | <iiaq> | Is there anything useful I can do with WARCs generated that way? |
20:50:36 | <thuban> | yes, upload them to the internet archive as an ordinary item |
20:50:46 | <fireonlive> | adding them to archive.org as an item (with proper metadata so it's easy to find) is a perfectly valid alternative |
20:50:53 | <fireonlive> | so others can find them and go though them |
20:51:12 | <fireonlive> | it's just the WBM is intended to be the 'public internet' as I personally understand it |
20:51:14 | <katia> | what is proper metadata? |
20:51:46 | <fireonlive> | title containing the site name, description probably containing tools used; originalurl field filled in |
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20:52:03 | <fireonlive> | (as well as anything else known) |
20:52:39 | <fireonlive> | proper is perhaps the wrong word, but at least some |
20:53:08 | <katia> | is originalurl a custom field? |
20:53:18 | <fireonlive> | (something other than: mywarcsimade) |
20:53:45 | <katia> | on https://archive.org/editxml/... |
20:53:49 | <fireonlive> | i know wikiteam/wikibot uses it, but unsure of its proclivity elsewhere |
20:54:06 | <fireonlive> | it is something one has to type in on their own though |
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20:55:33 | <nicolas17> | oh |
20:55:36 | <nicolas17> | my IP address changed |
20:55:49 | <nicolas17> | I no longer have to use VPN/Tor to access opensource.samsung.com :D |
20:56:44 | <@JAA> | I'm not sure originalurl is used much elsewhere. I've also used 'source' before, which is even documented to be used that way 'by external users'; IA uses it for something different: https://archive.org/developers/metadata-schema/index.html#source |
20:57:22 | <@JAA> | (A complete metadata dump of IA would be neat.) |
20:57:45 | <nicolas17> | "External users often use this field to list a URL where the media content originated" |
20:57:55 | <nicolas17> | the metadata keys seem like such a mess tbh |
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20:58:17 | <nicolas17> | keys used for multiple purposes |
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20:58:40 | <nicolas17> | "scanner: Machinery used to digitize or collect the media" |
20:58:43 | <thuban> | don't tempt me, i have a very angry rant about periodicals |
20:58:45 | <fireonlive> | ++ for a complete metadata dump |
20:58:55 | <nicolas17> | but if I try to put my flatbed scanner model there it gets overwritten with "Internet Archive HTML5 Uploader 1.6.3" |
20:59:06 | <fireonlive> | ugh yeah... |
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21:29:38 | <@JAA> | One that annoys me particularly is {previous,next}_item. These are specified to be item identifiers, but they don't get linked on the item page. |
21:30:30 | <@JAA> | I use them on some things where I upload monthly items, for example. |
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22:24:26 | <fireonlive> | https://dl.fireon.live/irc/32b895ee78c86012/test-please-ignore.png |
22:24:34 | <fireonlive> | https://dl.fireon.live/irc/554316ee19c99dd2/another-test-please-ignore.png |
22:27:56 | <fireonlive> | nothing but lounge |
22:31:19 | <katia> | how many |
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22:44:19 | <fireonlive> | it was ~22 or so but it was also AB'd so it was offset a bit |
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23:31:11 | <@OrIdow6> | !tell whoom I'm running everyponny forums, if you have more relatively inactive ones in that vein I do think archiving them would be a good thing |
23:31:12 | <eggdrop> | [tell] ok, I'll tell whoom when they join next |
23:31:15 | <@OrIdow6> | everypony |
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