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01:10:45<h2ibot>KamafaDelgato edited Deathwatch (+133, /* 2023 */): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49939&oldid=49926
01:10:46<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited Deathwatch (+2, /* 2023 */ Fix Miraheze date): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49940&oldid=49939
01:12:45<h2ibot>JacksonChen666 edited URLTeam (-2, utilize example URL column, reorder words,…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49941&oldid=49886
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01:49:51<h2ibot>KamafaDelgato edited Current Projects (+75, /* Upcoming & proposed projects */): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49942&oldid=49933
01:57:15<pabs>mikolaj|m: sure. IIRC you don't have an account, so I'll add it later today
01:57:52<pabs>fireonlive: Google does career-driven product development, so basically all their stuff could die at any moment
01:58:45<pabs>BTW everyone, I welcome help doing Mailman2 AB archiving, some tips and the list of sites here: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Mailman2
01:58:51<nicolas17>Google Domains officially exited beta in 2022
01:59:14<nicolas17>I'm sure the person who successfully brought it past the "no longer beta" finishing line got their promotion
01:59:27<nicolas17>and then had no reason to give a shit about the product anymore
01:59:43<pabs>still. probably the one person who cared about it got fired or moved on or something :)
02:00:05<nicolas17>nobody gets promoted for maintenance
02:00:41<pabs>:(
02:01:05<pabs>the world needs more people paid to do FOSS maintenance
02:01:32<pabs>hmm, I should also make wiki pages for Bugzilla and MoinMoin instance archiving
02:02:50<nicolas17>pabs: you linked to http://mail.kde.org/pipermail but that doesn't exist as is
02:03:12<nicolas17>I guess it makes sense for consistency though
02:03:39<nicolas17>https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-www/ archives are indeed under that URL, but you can't get a list of mailing lists from /pipermail/
02:04:58<nicolas17>also, I have server access to mail.kde.org, but I can't just get you the archives from there because there's private mailing lists :P
02:07:54<h2ibot>Pokechu22 edited Miraheze (+202, closing): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49943&oldid=49476
02:12:44<pabs>nicolas17: ack, that part of the list was just a raw extract of URLs from browser history, with the list names stripped off
02:12:56<pabs>and yes, not going to archive private stuff obviously :)
02:13:39<pabs>please add more stuff to Mailman2 if you have them
02:15:19<nicolas17>I did (ab)use my server access to grep for imgur URLs on all the forums and all the mailing list archives
02:20:05<fireonlive>;)
02:27:07<nicolas17>https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/retiring-the-aws-documentation-on-github/
02:27:29<nicolas17>I sent several minor doc fixes via pull requests :(
02:27:58<nicolas17>I don't think there's anything for us to archive here since the repos will stay on github as "archived", just thought you'd find it interesting
02:29:41<nicolas17>JAA: what's the best way to archive a small number of URLs... which are ~12GB each? archivebot? I assume the url project is not suitable for those sizes
02:30:38<nicolas17>or perhaps qwarc and manual upload, since there's often two URLs for each file and we'd want the deduplication
02:32:11<@JAA>nicolas17: For dedupe, yeah, qwarc or wget-at I'd say. AB has no deduping.
02:33:00<nicolas17>eg. macOS 13.5 beta 3 released today: https://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/03/39/032-93693-A_W1P97CIXE4/6cjyf873rm3vex7j38mgnz9pong52hpjfo/InstallAssistant.pkg
02:33:20<nicolas17>usually they release "developer beta" and "public beta" under different URLs but the files are identical
02:33:58<nicolas17>and they release both one day after the beta is available in other forms (ipsw and incremental update)
02:34:28<nicolas17>oddly this time they released the developer beta the same day (public beta *might* appear tomorrow), so at least for now there is only that one URL, not two
02:36:18<@JAA>As mentioned, qwarc only dedupes within the same process, so grabbing that now and the other one whenever it becomes available would result in no deduplication.
02:36:30<@JAA>wget-at might be able to do it, but I've never tried it.
02:36:37<nicolas17>wget-at can load CDXs from other runs yeah
02:37:16<@JAA>Yeah, although: https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?64203
02:38:01<nicolas17>ffs, is -at affected by that too?
02:38:48<@JAA>Maybe, maybe not. Haven't tried it.
02:39:31<nicolas17>also, there's a user who has uploaded many of these files (some of them after they were already gone from Apple, so he probably has a local hoarded stash)
02:39:35<nicolas17>eg. https://archive.org/details/sucatalog_012-42714
02:40:04<nicolas17>but how would either mine or his stuff appear on WBM?
02:43:25<fireonlive>maybe with apple it’s easier because everything’s signed? but someone would have to verify that with a well-known root i guess
02:43:47<fireonlive>if we’re not accepting the LTT-coined “trust me bro”
02:48:04<nicolas17>culpir's WARCs are also not deduplicated, there's even http and https copies x_x
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03:54:47<drallamsia>https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Board/Policies/20230615-Statement this was posted today, TL;DR at the end of August Miraheze will shut down for good
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03:55:00<aismallard>rip backup nick
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04:09:16<h2ibot>Yts98 created Banciyuan (+3504, Created page with "{{Infobox project | title =…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=Banciyuan
04:11:16<h2ibot>Yts98 edited Banciyuan (-8, typo): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49945&oldid=49944
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04:43:38<leo60228>miraheze's own dumps are mediawiki xml, right? so they wouldn't be able to be imported into the wayback machine?
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04:45:12<pokechu22>Yeah, but could be imported into other wikis
04:45:48<pokechu22>(and would contain all revisions, though I'm not 100% sure if they'd include images)
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05:01:33pabs wonders if an AB without history and off-site-links (chuck them in #//) is feasible for all of Miraheze
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05:13:39<pabs>https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-15/hong-kong-protest-anthem-disappearing-from-streaming-services/102484892
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06:13:38<h2ibot>Yts98 edited Current Projects (+182, Add LINE BLOG to upcoming): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49946&oldid=49942
06:23:40<h2ibot>PaulWise edited Mailman2 (+0, lists.linuxcontainers.org AB jobs running): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49947&oldid=49937
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07:13:50<h2ibot>Yts98 edited Deathwatch (-9, gimplearn.net was dead; adjust links and…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49948&oldid=49940
07:17:51<h2ibot>PaulWise edited Mailman2 (+27, AB job for lists.man.lodz.pl for mikolaj|m running): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49949&oldid=49947
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10:21:25<h2ibot>MasterX244 edited Reddit (+698, Newest developments): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49950&oldid=49932
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10:30:37<pabs>mikolaj|m: wow, some mails from 1996 on lists.man.lodz.pl, didn't know mailman existed them :)
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10:56:39<mikolaj|m>pabs: thanks!
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13:52:39<@JAA>pabs: Wikipedia says a first version of it existed in 1998. Version 1.0 is from 1999. So those were imported from something else.
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14:49:30<yasomi>it looks like cohost is starting to have funding issues: https://cohost.org/staff/post/1690393-h1-2023-financial-up
14:49:49<nicolas17>how long has it been running? lol
14:50:50<yasomi>Feburary 2022
14:51:03<yasomi>their main problem is they don't want to run ads lol
14:55:20<yasomi>with only 15 months of usage and a long waitqueue at the beginning of it's run, it's probably a smaller scale project
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15:07:13<nicolas17>JAA: ka.cdn has new files Content/DWAPromos/en-US/SoD-061523_LightFurySwordstealer_NewToCampus.jpg Content/DWAPromos/en-US/SoD-061523_LightFurySwordstealer_NewToCampus_822x640.jpg
15:17:22<@JAA>nicolas17: I'll rerun the bucket listing when the download finishes and will then download anything that's new.
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15:51:18<nicolas17>yasomi: that article mentions how most ad-supported social networks aren't profitable either
15:51:36<nicolas17>so is it really "their main problem is they don't want to run ads"?
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19:57:34<@JAA>About a quarter of the Knowledge Adventure bucket is done. ETA is still fine.
20:47:19<@arkiver>miraheze going down
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21:07:27<@JAA>transfer broke, will fix shortly.
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21:18:40<nicolas17>I have 3 zip files to save, largest 170MB, do I ask in #archivebot?
21:27:29<pokechu22>Sure, archivebot can do that
21:28:05<pokechu22>probably fine to !ao each individually (for a larger list !ao < list for a file on transfer would be better, but that's overkill here and transfer is broken)
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21:49:32<@JAA>transfer is fixed.
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21:55:59<nstrom|m>I'm still getting 502s from some locations. maybe the CDN needs to catch up
21:58:04<@JAA>Yeah, something's still wrong, continuing to look into it.
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22:11:32<nicolas17>is transfer back up?
22:12:15<nicolas17>nope, connection refused... will try later
22:37:15<@JAA>Might be fine now, we'll see.
22:37:23<nicolas17>yes it works now
22:37:42<@JAA>Yeah, the question is whether it'll break again. :-P
22:48:38<fireonlive>what broke :p
22:49:50<@JAA>The front fell off.
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23:00:26<that_lurker>https://i.imgur.com/4g3byO7.gif
23:02:37<that_lurker>This might be better :P https://i.imgur.com/AA3K8Bd.gif
23:03:19<@JAA>It wasn't me who kicked it though. :-P
23:03:42<that_lurker>damn who did it?
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23:37:54<fireonlive>haha
23:59:30<h2ibot>Yts98 edited LINE BLOG (+682, Describe layout and 301 redirects): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=49952&oldid=49920

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