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07:49:47<kokos>btw, is there an offsite backup or will some day IA just snap off and fall into the Pacific?
07:51:17<kokos>by offsite, I guess I mean off-continent maybe
08:01:15<pabs>ISTR something about a Canada mirror
08:01:33<pabs>the EU should get one together somehow
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10:32:21<kokos>I would support a mirror in EU, but I am not sure it would fly with the copyright and privacy laws. The IA has some DMCA exception as I understand it.
10:50:12<@arkiver>kokos: IA will not just snap off
11:00:14<kokos>> For backup, the whole Internet Archive is mirrored at the new Bibliotheca Alexandrina in Egypt and in Amsterdam. ("So our earthquake zone archive is backed up in the turbulent Mideast and a flood zone. I won't sleep well until there are five or six backup sites.") from year 02011 -- https://longnow.org/seminars/02011/nov/30/universal-access-all-knowledge/
11:13:48<@arkiver>feel free to make a donation at https://archive.org/donate to create more backups
11:37:18<kokos>I am more worried about the legal question. I'll email my EU MP. regarding this. I see that our national library is member of IIPC but the data can be accessed only physically in person because of the copyright law.
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15:05:47<c3manu>kokos: i agree, that's so ridiculous. from the german national library: "On copyright grounds, it is usually only possible to access the collected websites in our reading rooms in Leipzig and Frankfurt am Main. However, certain web archive content for which we have the right holder’s consent can also be used outside the reading rooms."
15:05:52<c3manu>via https://www.dnb.de/EN/Professionell/Sammeln/Sammlung_Websites/sammlung_websites_node.html#doc272684bodyText1
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21:57:11<@JAA>I'm pretty sure an EU mirror itself would be perfectly fine legally. However, this wouldn't extend to making the mirrored data publicly accessible.
21:57:54<@JAA>Still, a separate copy of the entire dataset would certainly be neat, even if it weren't accessible.
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