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02:02:23<ymgve>JAA: https://archive.org/details/tosec-main
02:03:28<ymgve>the original torrent is 1. one of those that gets stuck at 99% due to metadata 2. incomplete, only containing 20% of the files in the item 3. somehow contains some older files that is _not_ in the item
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08:58:31<riking>there have been a bunch of file modifications on the item but derive was never retriggered
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10:24:01<@JAA>ymgve: When an item is larger than a certain size threshold, IA won't generate a torrent. But it also won't delete the existing torrent file. The torrent in that item is from April 2023, but the last modification of the item's files was yesterday.
10:24:34<ymgve>yeah the item got modified when I added a comment with a magnet link
10:24:57<ymgve>but it seems like some files were changed out when TOSEC released an update last summer
10:25:07<@JAA>I don't recall what the size limit is, but probably 200 or 250 GiB, and this item is 254 GiB.
10:25:55<@JAA>> SKIPPING UPDATE to tosec-main_archive.torrent IN /6/items/tosec-main... item (260166 MB) exceeds maximum size (256000 MB)
10:25:59<ymgve>so what's a good way to link to the (hopefully) proper torrent I built? just a comment like I did, or a separate upload with the new torrent file?
10:26:00<@JAA>Yup, that's exactly what it is.
10:26:14<@JAA>Note that every metadata change etc. would invalidate the torrent, too.
10:26:36<ymgve>yeah, I excluded the metadata from the torrent I made
10:27:25<@JAA>If you upload a torrent file to an item, it'll get downloaded by IA, so that'd be duplicating all the item data.
10:29:06<@JAA>A review like that seems fine, I think.
10:29:45<@JAA>I wish IA would delete or at least deprecate the torrent when the item has been modified since.
10:29:56<@JAA>This leads to confusion constantly.
10:30:29<ymgve>it also seems to lead to lots of torrents that get stuck at 99.9% because the metadata is different
10:30:48<ymgve>the comment on the torrent says to download a new version, but generally there is no new torrent file
10:35:55<ymgve>for example https://archive.org/details/atarist-supremacy-vol1
10:37:44<@JAA>Can't see what happened there, unfortunately.
10:40:21<ymgve>hm, actually, maybe the metadata isn't wrong on that one, but it still doesn't complete
10:42:40<@JAA>The metadata was updated since the torrent was generated.
10:43:39<@JAA>There's normally a reason why the torrent isn't regenerated, such as the 'SKIPPING UPDATE' I quoted above for tosec-main, but I can't see the details on atarist-supremacy-vol1 for whatever reason.
11:02:27<ymgve>oh wow, I guess there's some issues with how web seeds are listed in the torrent file
11:03:52<ymgve>I manually added the webseed "https://ia904503.us.archive.org/1/items/" and suddenly it completed
11:05:59<ymgve>not sure why it manages to download the large files but fails on the metadata though
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15:33:56<DavidSaguna>Hey, apologies if this information is already somewhere out there (couldn't find a recent twitter post), but is the Internet Archive down for maintenance or is it something unplanned? For me it's not working
15:37:40<that_lurker>some services seem to be down and as there is no post on social it could be unplanned
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15:56:40<DavidSaguna>Alright!
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19:31:53<DavidSaguna>They just posted the reason https://x.com/internetarchive/status/1810033483097743461
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20:46:29<imer>that power grid is f'd lol can't even remember when I had the last outage locally..
20:59:25<fireonlive>i hear california power is quite... bad
20:59:30<fireonlive>privatized too
20:59:43<fireonlive>power? profits!
22:12:37<@JAA>Hey now, it's only been 30 years since the first wildfire they were found guilty of causing by negligence of their equipment. You can't expect them to fix things that quickly!
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22:48:23<fireonlive>very unreasonable of me! x3