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| 04:12:41 | <pabs> | The RubyGems.org takeover https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/1040778/ebd37f9eef2ae275/ |
| 05:39:05 | <nukke> | https://servo.org/blog/2025/10/20/servo-0.0.1-release/ |
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| 15:36:07 | <nukke> | https://nitter.net/internetofshit/status/1980505898088034704 |
| 15:36:23 | <nukke> | absolutely bizarre |
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| 16:32:56 | <steering> | lmao the replies |
| 16:33:05 | <steering> | >meh. one night of outage and a bunch of whiners. i still think the @eightsleep is still one of the best purchases i’ve made in the last 10 years, only rivaled by full self driving |
| 16:33:09 | <steering> | no surprise |
| 16:33:12 | <steering> | a fool and his money are easily parted |
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| 16:38:06 | <steering> | lmao @ ruby |
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| 17:08:51 | <nukke> | >Eight Sleep is an American company that develops products for "sleep fitness". |
| 17:09:09 | <nukke> | dear lord, sleep fitness |
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| 17:33:29 | <steering> | https://nitter.net/TateHackert/status/1979617301176664412#m |
| 17:33:59 | <steering> | he RT'd that and then next tweet a few days later "That is not the experience we want to provide and I want to apologize for it" :D |
| 17:34:48 | <steering> | also the oof of "look at my team i force to work all night long for rich fools' sleep!" |
| 17:45:03 | <@JAA> | From the original CEO tweet's replies: |
| 17:45:05 | <@JAA> | > the unit constantly sends over 500mb of data to your servers a day. |
| 17:45:07 | <@JAA> | wat |
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| 17:57:44 | <nukke> | That cannot be sustainable |
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| 17:59:14 | <that_lurker> | https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/systems-that-have-a-secure-boot-process-in-reality-do-not-major-backdoors-have-been-discovered-in-framework-linux-machines-and-it-might-just-be-the-tip-of-the-iceberg/ |
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| 21:20:15 | <Guest> | very long url |
| 21:35:29 | <steering> | > Although this will become increasingly difficult to get away with for gaming, given more and more games are requiring [Secure Boot] |
| 21:35:32 | <steering> | wat |
| 21:36:37 | <@JAA> | From the same box as kernel-level anti-cheat stuff. |
| 21:37:33 | | @JAA wonders whether those have been taken advantage of by (other) malware yet. |
| 21:37:55 | <steering> | I mean |
| 21:38:03 | <steering> | kernel anti cheat whatever |
| 21:38:11 | <steering> | secure boot is just pointless |
| 21:38:33 | | steering turns on secure boot and then adds his own keys etc |
| 21:40:05 | <@JAA> | Isn't there some way to retrieve which key was used for the secure-booted system? |
| 21:41:34 | <steering> | i mean, you can check the PCRs if it has a TPM, but you dont need secure boot for that ig |
| 21:41:41 | <steering> | idk |
| 21:43:23 | <@JAA> | Yeah, but the theory would be that the game can check whether the system was booted from an image signed with some whitelisted key (by its own whitelist, not the system's). |
| 22:01:40 | <nicolas17> | arm's race |
| 22:01:44 | <nicolas17> | I have seen game cheats using image recognition and virtual controllers |
| 22:03:43 | <steering> | or the age old strategy of just patching the checks to all return successful |
| 22:03:47 | <@JAA> | Please drink verification can. |
| 22:03:55 | <steering> | oh god |
| 22:04:12 | <steering> | how long until that's a thing? either enter a code printed on a mountain dew can or pay $1 per day |
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| 23:49:20 | <nukke> | isn't that what paid MMOs are? |
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