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00:02:24<steering>if they didn't want to become popular and recognized they'd still be on IRC or some other non-federated platform - or even just use their privacy settings *shrug*
00:05:38<steering>and along those lines, OrIdow6: it's not like it's generally difficult to "publish" it privately if they want that, which IMO means that if they made it public, that's indication that they wanted it public...
00:06:33<steering>I do enjoy some of the language that has been used in this discussion though, f.e. calling realists "abusers"
00:08:00<BlankEclair>> [21/06/2025 09:52] <steering> lol @ fedi doesn't involve the intention to become popular and recognized
00:08:01<BlankEclair>..?
00:08:46<steering>BlankEclair: it was a couple days ago
00:08:51<BlankEclair>i saw that convo
00:08:54<BlankEclair>what's the lol for though?
00:09:03<steering>exactly what it says
00:09:13<steering>I expanded on it two lines below :)
00:09:32<BlankEclair>(i'm kinda embarrassed i didn't see that...)
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00:13:55<steering>I wonder what "levels" there are on which something can be public other than a "technical level" and a "legal" level
00:14:53<steering>I mean, there's the "whatever is in that person's head at that time" level, but one would think it would be obvious how impossible that is...
00:15:07<BlankEclair>i vented about transphobia in a public matrix room :p
00:15:37<BlankEclair>so i guess that's a "kinda-private-but-not-really-since-it's-publically-joinable (and matrix search sucks anyway)" level
00:16:43<steering>I feel like that's more a "kinda private but actually so because matrix can't reasonably be archived" but I could be wrong :P
00:17:45<steering>IDK
00:18:00<steering>More than anything I feel like the mastodon.social change is a false comfort, like much in the fedi space.
00:19:14<steering>The number of people I've seen say "but I/my friends/marginalized group thought it would stay in my social groups!" just because their fedi circles are populated by their social group...
00:19:55<steering>you can try to tell the people you don't like nicely to go away but that doesn't generally work in the real world
00:20:26<BlankEclair>i think we're well aware that telling people to go away doesn't always work :/
00:21:01<steering>except that's what you're doing when you make something public and then say "oh but don't..."
00:21:33<steering>like, they're exactly the same sequence of events, and then <surprised_pikachu>
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00:22:12<steering>oh wow the AI crawlers still did their thing and the nazis still did their thing and...
00:25:35<steering>is the TOS even linked anywhere on mastodon.social...? I could only find it by google. The signup form and about only link to the privacy policy, which doesn't say anything about the TOS stuff
00:26:05<steering>(I also don't see the announced new stuff in the TOS even though the TOS is "Effective as of Jun 30, 2025")
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00:29:21<steering>apparently they "paused" them for additional legal advice something
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21:35:44<nukke>so weird that they never met in person before https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1lh34ox/linus_torvalds_bill_gates/
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23:09:44steering looks up their relative ages
23:09:59<steering>oh wow Bill Gates is only 3 years older than my dad
23:10:24<steering>... and also Torvalds is 14 years younger
23:10:47<steering>they look closer in age than that in the pic to me
23:15:36<anonymoususer852>I think the two of them are busy with their lives, and had it not been a third person who is hosting an event like this, they may never meet each other.
23:19:25<anonymoususer852>It's not that they have animosity with each other, but they're also not really that social enough to go out of their way to meet with (former) rivals, despite being occupied with their life. Just my opinion.
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