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| 01:45:30 | <steering> | JAA: does writing to a socket not upate its timestamp? I know writing to a fifo does |
| 01:46:03 | <steering> | I mean, sitting for months would be a problem, but I'd almost call that a design problem :P |
| 01:53:56 | <@JAA> | steering: It probably does, but the socket is only needed for manual intervention very rarely, so it's usually not written to. |
| 02:08:49 | <steering> | mmh, well... time to start flocking it :P |
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| 02:45:16 | <pabs> | all sockets definitely should be in /run not on regular filesystems |
| 02:47:41 | <@JAA> | I don't think /run was a standard thing at the time this was implemented; it was only added to the FHS in 2015. So there's that. |
| 02:48:06 | <@JAA> | But /var/run existed before that, I guess. |
| 02:50:27 | <@JAA> | Looks like manhole still defaults to /tmp/manhole-$pid even now. |
| 03:02:59 | <pabs> | hmm looks like manhole got removed from Debian |
| 03:07:52 | <@JAA> | I can't even find it on tracker.d.o. Was it ever there? |
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| 03:32:13 | <pabs> | in python-twisted-core according to https://manpages.debian.org/jessie-backports/python-twisted-core/manhole.1.en.html |
| 03:32:57 | <pabs> | hmm python3-twisted: /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/twisted/conch/manhole.py |
| 03:33:07 | <pabs> | nothing in $PATH tho |
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| 03:51:27 | <@JAA> | Oh, that's a different manhole. |
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| 06:29:04 | <nicolas17> | pabs: who do I talk to about the rampant LGPL infringement in Electron apps? |
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| 06:30:16 | <pabs> | the copyright holders. also https://sfconservancy.org/ is always interested in info about copyleft compliance, even if they aren't the copyright holders |
| 06:30:49 | <pabs> | and if Conservancy win their Vizio lawsuit, then you could sue over it yourself :) |
| 06:32:24 | <nicolas17> | I also suspect Apple is infringing the LGPL for WebKit despite trying not to; but those are more subtle issues than "random Electron apps providing no source code at all" |
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| 06:57:21 | <nicolas17> | pabs: how's the vizio thing going anyway? |
| 07:43:04 | <f_> | nicolas17: https://sfconservancy.org/copyleft-compliance/vizio.html |
| 07:43:12 | <f_> | > The case's expected trial date is in September 2025. |
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| 13:53:30 | <masterx244|m> | freedesktop.org gitlab migration downtime is a PITA.... zero mirrors of some of those repos and they have it fully down and not even a readonly copy available |
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| 14:07:43 | <that_lurker> | They at least do seems to have good backup strategy going |
| 14:07:52 | <that_lurker> | s/seems/seem |
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| 15:16:35 | <masterx244|m> | except of zero off-gitlab-mirrors of their content. need to fudge something with softwareheriage-pulled data and a local repo to get a pkgbuild from the AUR to work (git's insteadof config voodoo got necessary for that, too) |
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