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02:45:02<icedice>JAA: idk, this comment says that Epson blocks it: https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2023/12/07/hp_made_to_be_less_hated/#c_4773184
02:47:59<@JAA>icedice: Yeah, well, Epson does say you need to have genuine cartridges installed in all slots. It could be that people weren't aware of that. Or Epson is lying. Also a definite possibility.
02:48:41<@JAA>Note that https://www.consumerreports.org/consumerist/if-you-want-to-scan-without-an-ink-cartridge-maybe-dont-buy-an-all-in-one-at-all/ says 'without a print cartridge', not 'without ink'. :-)
02:49:18<@JAA>That's still bad, just not as bad as requiring a non-empty cartridge.
02:50:37<@JAA>There's also the famous 'why can't I print this black-and-white document without yellow ink?' bit.
02:50:56<@JAA>(It's because of the tracking dots.)
02:57:34<icedice>Yup
02:59:34<icedice>ArsTechnica also has an article about it: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/08/the-printers-that-require-ink-to-scan-and-fax/
03:00:24<icedice>This one is talking about ink cartridge replacement: https://old.reddit.com/r/Epson/comments/198y9pa/cant_scan_unless_i_replace_a_ink_cartridge/
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05:10:24<@JAA>lol, HP already ditched the 15-minute phone support wait time.
05:10:29<@JAA>That was fast.
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14:56:45<that_lurker>JAA: Thanks for mentioning the stalwar thing. Need to monitor what happens. Good thing procrastination helps me not self host my email anytime soon :-)
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17:43:12<@JAA>procrastination++
17:43:13<eggdrop>[karma] 'procrastination' now has 30 karma!
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20:00:30<@JAA>I was just about to. :-)
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20:29:07<nstrom|m>I've used mono laser for decades now at this point
20:30:12<nstrom|m>test
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21:17:54<atluxity>with the increase of price at meeting.com I know a lot of groups are leaving the service. Has anyone looked into that?
21:21:59<@JAA>→ -bs
21:22:53<@JAA>(If the intent is archival)
21:26:02<atluxity>ty
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