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00:36:23<utulien>trying to do something while we wait for more us govt tasks but mediafire and short url are both empty too. F
00:42:26<nstrom|m>telegram always stuff
00:42:32<nstrom|m>youtube is great if you're not blocked there too
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01:05:35<utulien>i won't do youtube because of the IP stuff
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01:12:31<nstrom|m>fair enough
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02:37:41<nukke>nothing to hide, nothing to fear
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03:05:05<missaustraliana>helloooo
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03:26:38<nukke>o/
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03:52:05<kitonthenet>re the asahi guy quitting upstream, I just went back and read this message and it sucks so bad it makes me think linux isn't the play in the long run https://lkml.org/lkml/2025/2/7/883
04:14:03<steering>oof that's a thread
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04:58:41<pabs>what do you mean by "isn't the play in the long run"?
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08:10:51<nulldata>https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/02/boeing-has-informed-its-employees-that-nasa-may-cancel-sls-contracts/
08:20:32<tc424>nulldata: I feel very conflicted about that!
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08:21:35<tc424>I mean, compared to SpaceX's stuff it's a shambles, but leaving a Musk controlled company as the only real player feels like rather a risk at this point in time :(
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13:33:58<kitonthenet>pabs: I think we're going to need a different foss os at some point in the future, whether it's a fork of linux or I hear good things abt redoxos idk, but a development process this ossified isn't going to last
13:35:03<kitonthenet>re: the nasa spacex stuff I think it's a great time to further reduce spending at nasa, rely on our european partners
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18:21:05<kitonthenet>hmm if I have a torrent on a private tracker and a client using that same tracker but the leecher can't see the seeder, is there some port or firewall shenanigans happening inbetween?
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19:43:05<nicolas17>kitonthenet: yeah, if both are behind firewalls or NAT, you're screwed
19:43:29<nicolas17>at least one needs to accept connections from outside, have port-forwarding configured correctly, etc
20:14:19<nukke>if you're behind a CGNAT you can still use a vpn provider that allows port forwarding like proton
20:25:22<nicolas17>or bring a third sane client into the swarm, to download from one and seed to the other :P
20:25:34<kitonthenet>how do I know which port to open?
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20:25:50<kitonthenet>neither client makes it clear
20:26:48<kitonthenet>er, port forward i guess
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20:27:29<kitonthenet>luckily no cgnat
20:28:20<@JAA>Also BEP 55
20:28:28<@JAA>(Apparently)
20:29:36<kitonthenet>I thought there was something about IPv6 that had a similar feature
20:29:59<@JAA>In a sane world, IPv6 wouldn't have any of these issues.
20:30:17<@JAA>Getting rid of all that NAT madness was one of the design goals.
20:30:41<@JAA>Of course, you'd still need to allow traffic through firewalls.
20:31:46<nukke>kitonthenet: should be in the Client settings
20:32:44<kitonthenet>In a world without copyright https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG3uea-Hvy4
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23:58:35<kitonthenet>still can't get the torrent working, does the client with it's port forwarded need to be the seeder? does it matter that I'm trying to use ktorrent and the other client is transmission?
23:59:05<kitonthenet>I can get non-torrent data accross the ktorrent machine, tested from a VPS through netcat

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