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| 02:49:35 | <pabs> | Fusl: wonder if any conference venues are doing air recycling/filtering stuff yet :/ |
| 02:51:09 | <nicolas17> | 37c3 did! |
| 02:57:29 | <nicolas17> | pabs: https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/5a65Q/mpv-shot0001.jpg |
| 02:57:40 | <nicolas17> | I don't know if 38c3 had anything like that |
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| 05:14:16 | <pabs> | nice! |
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| 08:59:11 | <@OrIdow6> | Thinking about he "go to -ot" problem (irritating to people when they get told it but TBH I was close to telling Webuser to do it in -bs), threaded chat system (kinda like Zulip which I think sounds cool) where you can retroactively mark messages as part of a thread |
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| 11:44:17 | <fionera> | nicolas17: We had one in the noc |
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| 12:05:38 | <immibis> | there was a not negligible percentage of masks, but still only maybe 10%. No obvious signs of air filters. |
| 12:06:31 | <immibis> | btw this place also has an angry style if you disagree with the hive mind - it's not like those other platforms are worse really |
| 12:14:23 | <joepie91|m> | re: the "5 bitcoin transactions" thing, that kind of comparison doesn't really work because the amount of energy that bitcoin uses is determined by the mining power (ie. by the exchange rate, effectively) and the number of transactions has no effect on that |
| 12:14:41 | <joepie91|m> | it's like trying to compare centimeters to km/h |
| 12:15:03 | <joepie91|m> | (this actually makes the bitcoin energy usage problem worse because it means you can't reduce it just by using it less) |
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| 13:10:23 | <f_> | |m |
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| 14:10:51 | <hexa-> | so miners mine for the leftover blocks to get a chance at the payout when the block is completed |
| 14:11:17 | <hexa-> | what is the motivation to continue mining if that gets exceedingly unlikely and won't that hamper the transaction performance:? |
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| 14:20:09 | <that_lurker> | people will most likely move more towards pools instead of just self mining |
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| 14:49:17 | <@imer> | isnt there a per-transaction fee miners get too |
| 15:01:26 | <nicolas17> | hexa-: if mining a block gets too difficult and the reward becomes "not worth it", then miners stop |
| 15:01:45 | <nicolas17> | this will reduce the frequency new blocks are mined |
| 15:02:18 | <nicolas17> | which will make the difficulty adjust downwards to bring it back to "every 10 minutes on average", which will maybe make it worth it again and make some miners come back |
| 15:03:23 | <hexa-> | oh, I thought difficulty only ever increased |
| 15:03:32 | <nicolas17> | "The difficulty is adjusted every 2016 blocks (every 2 weeks approximately) so that the average time between each block remains 10 minutes." |
| 15:03:45 | <hexa-> | ah, so normalization |
| 15:04:39 | <nicolas17> | in theory that would make it match the electricity cost |
| 15:05:20 | <nicolas17> | but early on there was the problem of "mining with electricity you don't pay for" (university campus, malware, etc) |
| 15:05:44 | <nicolas17> | and later we got mining ASICs which I suspect Satoshi didn't foresee |
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| 15:34:34 | <f_> | Happy new year to those who celebrate |
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| 15:50:32 | <immibis> | the mining payout should still match the cost of electricity unless everyone is using free electricity. |
| 15:51:13 | <immibis> | those who use free electricity should displace those with the most expensive electricity for whom it stops being worth it |
| 15:51:47 | <immibis> | btw other PoW algorithms are designed for ASIC resistance. RandomX is designed so that an optimal ASIC for RandomX is literally a CPU. |
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| 16:00:19 | <nicolas17> | immibis: I mean I think the creators didn't expect giant "mining companies" with a hangar worth of ASICs, they expected something more distributed |
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| 17:07:56 | <immibis> | then they should change the algorithm. Oh wait, they can't because Bitcoin is centralized at those mining companies. |
| 17:08:50 | <immibis> | it wouldn't be a huge technical change to put Bitcoin on randomx - it would just be incompatible - and be vetoed by huge mining companies. |
| 17:11:03 | <nicolas17> | immibis: https://web.archive.org/web/20200624183128/https://www.colabug.com/2017/1112/1874503/ |
| 17:18:16 | <steering> | > Send all the money from exchanges to your own desktop wallets. That’s the hardest part: UX of crypto wallets suck so much there’s big chance you will just lose it. (partially joking) |
| 17:18:20 | <steering> | lol |
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| 17:20:18 | <steering> | also why is this page wrapped on almost every line in the middle of a word :| |
| 17:24:45 | <nicolas17> | because word-break: break-all |
| 17:25:10 | <nicolas17> | that may have been fixed later, or bug not present earlier, but this is the only capture :/ |
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| 17:29:41 | <immibis> | don't Bitcoin nodes refuse reorgs deeper than 6 blocks? The originally mined chain will be treated as the correct one, even when you mine another one with more difficulty. |
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| 17:31:22 | <nicolas17> | do some network attacks too and ensure some nodes don't hear about the original chain for a while, by the time they do, they will think yours is the original one and stay split-brain forever |
| 17:31:29 | <nicolas17> | fun! |
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| 17:58:58 | <FireFly> | Firefox reader mode saves the day (re silly CSS) |
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| 18:03:32 | | steering tries it for the first time ever |
| 18:03:45 | <steering> | that actually is better |
| 18:04:07 | <steering> | i'm not a huge fan of the font that it has picked |
| 18:06:29 | <steering> | hmm, somehow it had letter-spacing: -0.6px; but changing "Character spacing" up one and then back down one made it letter-spacing: normal; |
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| 18:38:09 | <that_lurker> | Happy New Year to everyone. This year was not sucha a joyful one, but let's hope the next one will be better (at least if only a little) |
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| 19:01:22 | <immibis> | lots of people in UTC+6 or so. Of course when I lived in NZ I had to be the first one to say it in every IRC channel. |
| 19:12:52 | <nukke> | https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/meta-ai-users-facebook-instagram-1235221430/ |
| 19:13:12 | <nukke> | >As reported by the Financial Times, the hope is that these semi-independent custom avatars will prove more engaging to the young people who are crucial to the survival of Meta’s flagship social networks. “We expect these AIs to actually, over time, exist on our platforms, kind of in the same way that accounts do,” Connor Hayes, Meta’s vice-president of product for |
| 19:13:14 | <nukke> | generative AI, told FT. “They’ll have bios and profile pictures and be able to generate and share content powered by AI on the platform … that’s where we see all of this going.” |
| 19:13:43 | <immibis> | makes sense. The point of their apps is to provide scroll feeds, not to connect people. |
| 19:16:18 | <nukke> | will it actually drive engagement if the bots are neutered? part of how Twitter gets so much engagement is that there are malicious bots |
| 19:17:02 | <nukke> | If meta is running these bots themselves, I'm 100% certain they will be the most vanilla "people" you can imagine, whereas Twitter bots are incendiary trolls for example |
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| 20:51:44 | <steering> | tbh there's so many other bots they might as well lmao |
| 20:51:59 | <steering> | it's not like it'll make a difference |
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| 21:10:28 | <hexa-> | gst |
| 21:10:30 | <hexa-> | ups |
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| 21:55:02 | <steering> | goods and services tax; united parcel service? :) |
| 21:55:13 | <steering> | or did you mean uninterruptible power supply |
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| 23:09:23 | <immibis> | Twitter is a platform where people think they are talking to people but Instagram is more of an endless scrolling platform. |
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| 23:16:17 | <nukke> | what about tick tock |
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