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03:29:23<kpcyrd>katia_dect5284: it was nice meeting you! :3
03:30:39<nicolas17>:3
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09:00:13<katia>kpcyrd: <3
10:04:40<immibis>fionera: now that you mention it I've been hanging around bornhack a bit and haven't seen anything obviously AT related
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12:39:36<f_>Fusl: I'm sure flu-conf is for you
12:42:38<@Fusl>flu-what
12:57:02<f_>Fusl: https://fluconf.online/
13:19:34<FireFly>maybe I should try to swing by milliways area again when I get back to the venue
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15:51:27<nicolas17>at the 38C3 infrastructure review they just reported the entire event consumed 6 MWh of energy, equivalent to 5 bitcoin transactions
15:53:11<@imer>"5 bitcoin transactions" ouch.
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16:53:59<TheTechRobo>holy shit, bitcoin is *that much* energy?
17:19:57<that_lurker>"The average energy consumed for one Bitcoin transaction is 851.77 kWh" Holy shit
17:21:57<nicolas17>average energy consumed to mine a block divided by number of transactions that fit in a block
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17:51:39<steering>average bitcoin transaction = average US household for a month
17:51:40<steering>wow
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19:08:57<immibis>When you ask Google how much energy a Bitcoin transaction uses it says it's "up to" 1200kWh. However, at a current transaction price of around $1.80, a total block reward equal to twice the fees, and and assuming a low electricity price of $0.04/kWh, and a market equilibrium where electricity usage equals mining rewards, it's not even a tenth of that
19:09:08<immibis>More like 200 Bitcoin transactions.
19:09:38<immibis>probably the number of Bitcoin transactions conducted at C3 exceeded the energy of the event itself!
19:10:22<immibis>a normal wholesale electricity price is something like $20 per MWh, so it's not that hard to exceed $120 in Bitcoin fees.
19:10:33<immibis>never found the AT table btw
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20:42:43<steering>-feed:#nanog- Fwd: [arin-announce] ARIN Will Retire the Use of FTP on 31 March 2025 | https://seclists.org/nanog/2024/Dec/273
20:42:46<steering>RIP to even more FTP
20:45:18<nukke>FTP is considered harmful. Use telnet instead
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21:41:26<steering>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyDrd_M1V6E
21:41:28steering drools
21:58:37<@Fusl>f_: ah yeah but thats boring
21:58:47<@Fusl>online i can as well just watch the video recordings afterwards
21:58:51<@Fusl>something something media.ccc.de
21:58:56<f_>yeah
21:59:07<@Fusl>i just wish people would still wear masks
21:59:19<@Fusl>i feel like im the only person left on this entire planet still wearing one every day
22:08:12<nicolas17>Fusl: what could possibly go wrong https://social.hackerspace.pl/@q3k/113743634556362100
22:16:00<nstrom|m>Stay safe everyone ♥️
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22:26:22<f_>stay safe all
22:44:48<@OrIdow6>Fusl: Only one in Austria maybe
22:46:23<@OrIdow6>Might help if you can find some kind of group chat pertinent to it... I belive there are also groups on Bluesky (formerly known as Twitter) and Mastadon but frrom what I've heard those have the usual hyper-angry discussion style of those places
22:46:48<@OrIdow6>Chat/support group/whatever
22:51:22<@OrIdow6>Anyway what do you use N95s or what?
23:12:42<@Fusl>nicolas17: rip
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