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01:23:41<fireonlive>tell me something
01:25:47<ymgve>fireonlive: the title on that issue reminds me of https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/stop-doing-math
01:26:09<fireonlive>:D
01:26:23<ymgve>"hello I would like google-* modules please"
01:26:29<ymgve>they have played us for absolute fools
01:28:13<fireonlive>x3
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01:54:18<fireonlive>https://x.com/vxunderground/status/1795813760348705163?s=12
01:54:24<fireonlive>windows recalle
01:54:28<fireonlive>recsll
01:54:31<fireonlive>recall
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02:21:15<pabs>https://media.hachyderm.io/media_attachments/files/112/519/586/586/150/651/original/6ccb9e627e3f066b.png
02:21:28<pabs>(from https://hachyderm.io/@forrestbrazeal/112519586734504913)
02:36:37<pabs>-rss/#hackernews-firehose- Web Check – All-in-one OSINT tool for analysing any website: https://web-check.xyz https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40527021
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07:15:58<fireonlive>anyone else eats snickers upside down so they can feel the veins on their tongue?
07:24:23<@OrIdow6>I hate snickers
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07:55:11<fireonlive>https://x.com/swiftonsecurity/status/1796426692959125832?s=12
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09:53:41<kpcyrd>hm, this says there are no snapshots available: https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://whatsrc.org/artifact/sha256:f42ee9efa489e9ff5d328baefa26f9c515be65021856e78d99ad1f0ead9ec85d
09:53:51<kpcyrd>but this one exists: https://web.archive.org/web/20240531095027/https://whatsrc.org/artifact/sha256:f42ee9efa489e9ff5d328baefa26f9c515be65021856e78d99ad1f0ead9ec85d
09:55:08<kpcyrd>ah hm, it seems the redirect for /*/ is borked
09:55:17<kpcyrd>this works: https://web.archive.org/web/20*/whatsrc.org/*
09:59:12<kpcyrd>the first link now works too hm. the heatmap doesn't work but it links the snapshot
09:59:56<kpcyrd>does somebody know if it's possible to link "any snapshot for this exact url"? so it shows the page directly?
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10:40:51<@arkiver>kpcyrd: well any shapshot for an example URL would be /*/example.org right?
10:42:13<kpcyrd>https://web.archive.org/web/*/whatsrc.org/* seems to work now but didn't work before, hm
10:43:20<kpcyrd>(the list seems incomplete but whatever)
10:58:36<@arkiver>kpcyrd: i believe they show a maximum of 10k or 100k results
10:59:14<@arkiver>kpcyrd: why does it seem incomplete?
10:59:24<@arkiver>so the underlying call is https://web.archive.org/web/timemap/json?url=whatsrc.org%2F&matchType=prefix&collapse=urlkey&output=json&fl=original%2Cmimetype%2Ctimestamp%2Cendtimestamp%2Cgroupcount%2Cuniqcount&filter=!statuscode%3A%5B45%5D..&limit=10000
10:59:35<@arkiver>you could remove the filter for status codes
11:00:04<@arkiver>then i see you get 24 results instead of 11
11:07:02<kpcyrd>arkiver: it's missing the sha256:f42ee9efa... page that I've linked in this channel
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11:13:02<@arkiver>kpcyrd: ah that is saved today i see
11:13:11<@arkiver>so there are various levels of the index at IA
11:14:10<@arkiver>the short term index is where stuff ends up in that is saved with Save Page Now, to make it immediately available.
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11:14:42<@arkiver>and there is a larger "ALL" index (and maybe something in between, not sure). this ALL index is generated periodically over all WARCs and contains all records found
11:15:23<@arkiver>now, eventually records fall out of the short term index... and then they should already be in the ALL index. sometimes the ALL index is delayed, which is why some captures seem to "disappear" after being saved with SPN, but "appear" again a few weeks later.
11:16:39<@arkiver>kpcyrd: but back to the question - i'm not sure what index is used by the data loaded at https://web.archive.org/web/*/whatsrc.org/* , it may very well not be the short term index. which means the data saved through Save Page Now might take a few days to show up in the list from https://web.archive.org/web/*/whatsrc.org/* (so until it's picked up by a larger - longer term - index)
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12:05:39<kpcyrd>arkiver: I see, thanks for explaining!
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13:35:10<nstrom|m>huh this is a new one https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/1yFAD/docker.txt
13:35:32<nstrom|m>guess Russia is on the super bad list now
13:35:44<nstrom|m>or geoip is messed up for that netblock
13:38:48<that_lurker>https://forums.docker.com/t/docker-hub-is-not-accessible-from-russia/141678
13:40:05<that_lurker>nstrom|m: ^
13:43:08<nstrom|m>not just me then, thanks
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14:30:11<kpcyrd>> Republic of Crimea (1992 - 1995)
15:02:15<nicolas17>https://web.archive.org/web/20240531085449/https://github.com/raivo-otp/ios-application/issues/328
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15:06:41<@JAA>Oh, they nuked the issues, fun.
15:25:15<nicolas17>JAA: https://github.com/raivo-otp/ios-application/pull/370 https://github.com/raivo-otp/ios-application/pull/371
15:28:50<@JAA>Perhaps the issues were actually deactivated as an anti-spam measure by GitHub rather than by the owners.
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16:08:38<@JAA># date +%s
16:08:39<@JAA>Happy timestamp 1717171717!
16:09:00<@JAA>Well, almost. :-P
16:10:52<nicolas17>missed it D:
16:11:01<@JAA>Yeah, hit it on another channel but not here.
16:11:14<@JAA>And then accidentally sent the wrong message. lol
16:11:23<nicolas17>well I saw your message late too
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16:11:54<@JAA>(It was at 16:08:37 for those wondering.)
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16:40:10<fireonlive>:D
16:59:56<f_>Missed it D:
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17:50:27<kiska>fireonlive: Turns out I listen to a lot of music https://www.last.fm/user/kiska3/library
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17:58:57<fireonlive>kiska: thats a lot of scrobbles!
17:59:20<steering>jeez, nearly as many scrobbles as i have in 10 years
17:59:25<fireonlive>2023 was a big year for you haha
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18:01:14<kiska>I mean we are just about half way through the year :D
18:04:43<fireonlive>x3
18:04:57<fireonlive>already almost 20k!
18:08:52<@JAA>kiska: Make the 20000th song this year A Whale Of A Tale! :-)
18:10:53<kiska>I suppose I could make it the 30k song :D
18:11:56<@JAA>Annoying that the entire scrobble history pages are loginwalled. :-(
18:12:28<@JAA>I like the one single scrobble from 2012.
18:13:12<kiska>Oh?
18:13:18<kiska>I had one scrobble in 2012?
18:14:09<@JAA>At least the sidebar says so.
18:14:34<kiska>I can't see it :D
18:14:54<kiska>https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/87530ddd433e023e/image.png :D
18:15:18<kiska>Is it like 1 px so I can't click on it :D
18:16:19<@JAA>https://www.last.fm/user/kiska3/library?from=2012-01-01&rangetype=year (loginwalled)
18:16:59<@JAA>And not sure why you said 30k, you're not at 20k yet. 19967
18:17:15<kiska>https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/5e659a1e697ac316/image.png
18:17:16<kiska>:D
18:17:27<@JAA>Huh
18:17:31<steering>personally i just like your all time top album
18:17:31<kiska>Caching?
18:17:52<@JAA>I see 19979 after a client-side cache clearing.
18:17:58<steering>and i see <20k as well
18:18:05<steering>ye 19979 as well
18:18:10<kiska>🤷
18:18:37<kiska>Incognito windows says https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/30f2edaa51004b4c/image.png
18:18:53<@JAA>wut
18:19:24<kiska>This is very good oui?
18:19:33<kiska>:D
18:21:49<kiska>I love the status of my buyvm https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/2566cbe4aaa4e7ed/image.png
18:22:20<@JAA>D:
18:24:47<kiska>buyvm support might still be active
18:24:54<kiska>And I can get my machine booted :D
18:27:16<kiska>I am guessing lastfm is just caching things and will expire the cache in.... never?
18:28:19<@JAA>EveNTuAl COnSisTENcY
18:29:50<steering>yeah i'd guess we are hitting their CDN in US or whatever
18:31:03<kiska>I suppose if I stop listening you'll get consistency faster :D
18:32:29<@JAA>Yeah, when requesting it from NZ, I get 20028.
18:33:09<@JAA>I'd assume I hit a European node, but no idea.
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18:43:05<fireonlive>weird, server8 isn't loading for me
18:44:50<kiska>OOF?
18:45:05<steering>oh teh noeeeeeees
18:45:06<kiska>Works for me, given I am using it
18:45:24<steering>i blame $fireonlive_isp
18:45:52<kiska>I blame cogent
18:46:37<steering>that too
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18:56:46<fireonlive>hmm
18:56:51<nicolas17>https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/ChmGE/opensource.mp4
18:56:54<fireonlive>i was on LTE, so maybe it was v6?
18:57:59<@JAA>Sad but true
18:58:07<@JAA>Sorry, I meant:
18:58:13@JAA now playing: Metallica - Sad But True
18:58:16steering thinks back to the HN thread where people kept saying "ipv6 just works"
18:58:18<fireonlive>xP
18:58:42<fireonlive>JAA: s******e when?
18:59:00fireonlive opens 200 issues
19:00:33<fireonlive>oh crap
19:00:42<fireonlive>it's not opensource but now i'm responsible for eggdrop
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19:03:23<@JAA>fireonlive: I have no idea what you mean, but 'sodomite' fits, so I'm going to guess it's that.
19:03:26<@JAA>fireonlive bonk++
19:03:26<eggdrop>[karma] 'fireonlive bonk' now has 34 karma!
19:03:35<fireonlive>xD
19:03:42<fireonlive>😵‍💫
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19:05:22<katia>fireonlive bonk++
19:05:22<eggdrop>[karma] 'fireonlive bonk' now has 35 karma!
19:05:27<fireonlive>😵‍💫
19:05:30<kiska>fireonlive bonk++
19:05:30<eggdrop>[karma] 'fireonlive bonk' now has 36 karma!
19:05:32<fireonlive>😵‍💫
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19:08:11<piennu2>goin crazy because Pidgin won't show me chat windows for hackint connected via xmpp despite the successful join message
19:09:04<piennu2>also, are the individual project rooms archived?
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19:53:22<fireonlive>+rss- Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland: https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/05/31/police-theft-thousands-power-tools/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40535436
19:53:25<fireonlive>holy crap that video
19:53:36<fireonlive>@ https://x.com/HCPDNews/status/1793741188991742119
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21:09:40<fireonlive>Snowflake breach: Hacker confirms access through infostealer infection https://www.hudsonrock.com/blog/snowflake-massive-breach-access-through-infostealer-infection https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40534868
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21:29:25<f_>in the meantime, on EFnet...
21:29:30<f_>https://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_log/archiveteam/?date=2024-05-24,Fri&sel=56#l56
21:29:52<f_><@CHANFIX> 1 client should have been opped.
21:30:10<f_>CHANFIX more like ChanServ :P
21:30:17<fireonlive>why'd they make it all caps
21:30:19<fireonlive>pls
21:30:32<f_>because you have to scream CHANFIX
21:32:21<f_>CHANNELFIXINGSERVICE
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21:32:34<FUNDERSCORE>FUNDERSCORE:
21:32:38FUNDERSCORE is now known as f_
21:33:07<@JAA>CHANFIX was created before someone invented lower-case letters.
21:33:24<f_>then came OpenChanfix
21:33:37<f_>https://www.chanfix.org/
21:33:45<f_>last release 9 Nov 2004
21:34:24<fireonlive>!
21:34:32<f_>looks very new to me
21:34:51<@JAA>That's definitely modern by EFnet standards.
21:35:09<fireonlive>>OpenChanfix has been designed and implemented according to the specs that were voted for EFnet as described in this vote,
21:35:10<fireonlive>>https://voting.efnet.org/pastvotes/0014.shtml
21:35:10<fireonlive>>Sorry, the page you are looking for could not be found.
21:35:10<fireonlive>rip
21:35:34<@JAA>Yeep, a bunch of EFnet sites are dead or broken.
21:36:03<@JAA>Oh wow, the forums work tonight, for once.
21:36:14<nicolas17>are there *any* messages on efnet nowadays?
21:36:17<fireonlive>oh right the hacked forums
21:36:17<steering>Not just efnet sadly
21:36:34<steering>I went looking for all the old IRC code I could find and loooooots of networks' had completely broken chunks of their sites :(
21:36:40<fireonlive>front page news: http://www.efnet.org/
21:36:53<fireonlive>>Data breach
21:36:53<fireonlive>>Due to an insecure password on an old admin account, hackers were able to retrieve a data dump of the forum database. At this point, it is safe to assume that all passwords are compromised. All passwords have been reset to a random string, you will need to perform a [url=http://forum.efnet.org/ucp.php?mode=sendpassword]password reset[/url] in
21:36:53<fireonlive>order to login.
21:36:57<@JAA>nicolas17: I mean, there's CHANFIX. :-P
21:37:05<fireonlive>steering: :(
21:37:19<f_>JAA: Spoke too soon
21:37:21<f_>http://forum.efnet.org/viewforum.php?f=3&sid=086f063272c1c0102dfc92f11fa1e346
21:37:26<steering>undernet was quite bad IIRC too
21:37:44<@JAA>f_: Yeah, it breaks all the time, need to refresh a couple times for it to load.
21:38:09<steering>https://db.undernet.org/ hsts broken in front of 503
21:38:20<fireonlive>i like how the latest reply in general is something archiveteam posted
21:38:22<f_>JAA: that's a really nice and maintained IRC network you got there
21:38:55<fireonlive>http://forum.efnet.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85
21:39:05<f_>no https..
21:39:20<fireonlive>>personally, i never use the topic for anything more than sharing 1 url (which there are dozens of webpages for shortening long urls, i wrote one of them myself), or pasting out of context quotes
21:40:17@JAA slaps munky around a bit with a large trout
21:40:29<f_>http://forum.efnet.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8747
21:40:39<fireonlive>>It would be nice if EFnet server admins could agree upon a standard set of ports for both SSL and non SSL connections.
21:40:39<fireonlive>>munky/Site Admin: standards are for pussies
21:40:46<steering>https://www.undernet.org/ link to https://www.routing-com.undernet.org/ which is ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH...
21:40:50<f_>http://www.erisnet.org/erisnet_pressrelease.pdf
21:40:57<@JAA>fireonlive: lol, yeah, that tracks.
21:40:57<fireonlive>(via http://forum.efnet.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=16913 SSL Servers / To make it easier to remember servers with SSL enabled on EFnet, we have set up a round robin. The round robin is 'ssl.efnet.org' and currently lists the three servers we have with SSL support.)
21:41:01<fireonlive>xP
21:41:15<fireonlive>steering: huh.. routing-com
21:41:41<@JAA>We should probably throw all these sites into AB.
21:42:07<f_>JAA: now's a great time to archive EFnet
21:42:13<f_>lol
21:42:32<fireonlive>http://efnet.us/
21:42:43<@JAA>I'd probably run that one independently with --tries 100 or something.
21:42:53<@JAA>The 3 tries by AB might not be enough.
21:44:11<fireonlive>before the forums let out their last laboured gasp
21:44:15<f_>oh for once their webchat works
21:45:36<@JAA>The server application form, on the other hand, does not.
21:46:16<f_>the webchat login thing?
21:46:17<fireonlive>it should just link to a page with 'are you insane?' as the response body
21:46:26<f_>Where?
21:47:05<fireonlive>server application as in if you want to link your ircd to efnet
21:47:16<f_>Yes, but where?
21:48:20<@JAA>Near the bottom on http://www.efnet.org/?module=docs&doc=24
21:48:29<@JAA>efnet.info is dead
21:48:41<fireonlive>http://forum.efnet.org/viewtopic.php?p=6605#p6605
21:48:47<@JAA>Editing it to .org gives a blank page.
21:48:51<fireonlive>of US applications, check out http://efnet.us/new-server-application.shtml#app for CA applications, check out http://ca-efnet.org/ you'll have to ask an EU admin where to get the latest EU application
21:49:02<fireonlive>(none work)
21:49:22<fireonlive>ah there too :)
21:49:31<@JAA>Yeah, I looked into this back when we were still on EFnet, and they were already dead at the time, I think.
21:57:02<steering>https://github.com/ircv4-wg/spec-devel/blob/master/drafts/01-framing.md all praise our lord and savior json christ!
21:58:58<nicolas17>>The IRCv4 project is an attempt to alleviate frustrations with the IRCv3 working group and perceived slow to nonexistent progress
21:59:00<nicolas17>>look inside
21:59:07<nicolas17>>last commit 6 years ago
21:59:18<@JAA>lol
21:59:42<nicolas17>look-inside-cat.jpg
21:59:59<@JAA>I'm surprised they didn't go for HTTP for the transport, too.
22:00:21<steering>https://github.com/ircv4-wg/spec-devel/blob/master/drafts/03-metadata.md#the-subscribe-action it's beautiful
22:00:31<steering>(json examples there)
22:00:36<nicolas17>just use BOSH
22:01:05<@JAA>> Backwards compatibility
22:01:06<@JAA>> TBD
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22:02:52<nicolas17>JAA: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0124.html
22:04:02<@JAA>Beautiful!
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22:05:16<nicolas17>of course the answer now is "websockets" and "don't worry about intermediaries, everything is TLS'd anyway"
22:13:06<@JAA>f_: Re OpenChanfix, it has a dead download link, too.
22:13:11<@JAA>https://www.chanfix.org/download/chanfix-2.0.5.tar.gz is 404
22:14:55<@JAA>Not sure where it's linked, but... somewhere.
22:15:44<@JAA>Ah, in the changelog
22:17:37<fireonlive>hm, wonder why just that release
22:18:02<fireonlive>anchor is '2.0.4 (the ported version)'
22:18:04<fireonlive>weird
22:19:43<fireonlive>https://web.archive.org/web/20131127070243/https://voting.efnet.org/pastvotes/0014.shtml
22:19:44<fireonlive>bruh
22:20:20<fireonlive>https://web.archive.org/web/20180628022320/https://voting.efnet.org/archives/0014.shtml
22:20:22<fireonlive>one capture!
22:20:30<fireonlive>thanks web_domain_tests
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