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| 01:17:43 | <fireonlive> | christ |
| 01:17:48 | <fireonlive> | what doesn't yt-dlp do |
| 01:17:55 | <fireonlive> | --print-to-file?? |
| 01:17:57 | <fireonlive> | thank! |
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| 01:46:53 | <pabs> | fireonlive: yt-dlp doesn't yet have a browser extension to convert shitty video players to plain HTML5 :) (would be useful to bypass loginwalls/paywalls in the process) |
| 01:52:08 | <fireonlive> | that'd be nice :) |
| 01:53:26 | <pabs> | probably pretty simple too with native messaging stuff I guess |
| 01:54:18 | <nicolas17> | nah compile CPython to WebAssembly >:3 |
| 01:54:43 | <pabs> | ewww |
| 01:55:40 | <nicolas17> | https://docs.python.org/3/library/intro.html#webassembly-platforms |
| 01:57:59 | <@JAA> | yt-dlp depends on a few C extensions, so that'd be fun. |
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| 02:20:04 | <steering> | wonder if you could hw transcode from webasm? |
| 02:34:55 | <fireonlive> | Z-Library: seized domains https://old.reddit.com/r/zlibrary/comments/1d3eipd/seized_domains/ |
| 02:35:03 | <fireonlive> | >As of now the domain for singlelogin.se, z-library.sx, z-library.se and zlibrary-global.se are showing a seized message from the FBI and Austria government. |
| 02:38:48 | <nicolas17> | isn't that site plain old blatant piracy? |
| 02:41:02 | <fireonlive> | indeed |
| 02:41:12 | <fireonlive> | insert query receive file |
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| 02:53:41 | <fireonlive> | https://dl.fireon.live/irc/eb9c364499a827aa/gaga.png |
| 02:53:43 | <fireonlive> | is mother ok????? |
| 02:54:06 | <fireonlive> | then again, meat dress. |
| 02:59:09 | <nicolas17> | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/286612533757083648/1245563254223142982/yynceg1cch1d1.jpeg?ex=665934ad&is=6657e32d&hm=3dbd354f0ccfa9dc6089783f4fc316226f0f0e47906cd493ff7063d55d67428a& find the cat |
| 03:00:00 | <fireonlive> | fount |
| 03:00:37 | <nicolas17> | :3 |
| 03:01:02 | <fireonlive> | :3 |
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| 04:03:41 | <nukke> | what mobile matrix app are y'all using? |
| 04:05:19 | <fireonlive> | element :( |
| 04:05:23 | <fireonlive> | :(:(:(:( |
| 04:05:26 | <fireonlive> | fuck matrix |
| 04:05:30 | <fireonlive> | matrix-- |
| 04:05:30 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'matrix' now has -7 karma! |
| 04:05:55 | <fireonlive> | <walter_white_screaming_from_car.png> |
| 04:13:16 | <nukke> | I was just reading user reviews for element x, which is a full rewrite of the og element app, and god damn does it sound broken af |
| 04:13:33 | <nukke> | even og element has like 3.2 stars. element x has 2.4 lol |
| 04:13:45 | <nukke> | that's worse than those shitty mobile games |
| 04:57:05 | <that_lurker> | I use FluffyChat for matrix (https://fluffychat.im/) |
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| 06:07:01 | <@hook54321> | Iirc Element X is better but missing a lot of functionality and features |
| 06:09:29 | <nukke> | Element is dreadfully slow if you're in more than, say, 10 active channels |
| 06:09:56 | <nukke> | Fluffychat I tried for a bit but the UI takes a while to get used to |
| 06:10:23 | <nukke> | I've not tried Element X, only seen some demos from a year or two ago |
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| 10:40:34 | <thuban> | pabs: i've always used mpv's ytdl hooks for that purpose |
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| 11:48:04 | <kpcyrd> | I have two matrix clients on my phone and they are both broken in different ways |
| 11:48:34 | <kpcyrd> | depending on the problem I'm facing I switch to the lesser broken one |
| 11:48:43 | <pabs> | thuban: yeah, and there are extensions to run mpv with the current URL, but they aren't the same experience as an in-browser video player |
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| 13:04:59 | <Fijxu[nadekonet]|m> | <kpcyrd> "I have two matrix clients on..." <- FluffyChat works well :b |
| 13:05:17 | <kpcyrd> | fluffychat is one of them |
| 13:06:08 | <kpcyrd> | iirc there's certain kinds of notifications fluffychat can't clear because it doesn't fully implement some feature necessary to access the channel (or something) |
| 13:06:46 | <kpcyrd> | I've turned off notifications for both clients in my phone's system settings because I couldn't get a grip on them with the normal settings |
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| 13:29:06 | <hexa-> | can someone recommend a tool to extract a page from the wayback machine? |
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| 14:23:51 | <pabs> | hexa-: https://github.com/hartator/wayback-machine-downloader |
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| 15:45:46 | <@JAA> | fireonlive: Found the dog first. :-P |
| 15:47:27 | <fireonlive> | :P |
| 16:06:46 | <f_> | fireonlive: heh :P |
| 16:06:49 | <f_> | matrix-- |
| 16:06:50 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'matrix' now has -8 karma! |
| 16:06:51 | <f_> | element-- |
| 16:06:52 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'element' now has -3 karma! |
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| 17:23:56 | <fireonlive> | turns out if you need money holding your app users for ransom isn't the best route |
| 17:26:00 | <@JAA> | inb4 'we got hacked' |
| 17:28:04 | <fireonlive> | hahah |
| 17:30:03 | <fireonlive> | https://dl.fireon.live/irc/c7b6604bff2d3749/ovh-pay.png |
| 17:30:05 | <fireonlive> | thanks ovh |
| 17:30:19 | <@JAA> | Turns out the app was sold last year, and this was the first version by the new owners, apparently. |
| 17:30:43 | <fireonlive> | ooh, OVH has a new datacentre in Toronto? |
| 17:30:55 | <fireonlive> | well, Cambridge, near Toronto |
| 17:30:58 | <fireonlive> | (canada) |
| 17:31:26 | <@JAA> | Huh |
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| 17:31:50 | <fireonlive> | listed on https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-ca/ |
| 17:32:04 | <fireonlive> | https://dl.fireon.live/irc/94e688b72021a6ba/ovh-cambridge.png |
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| 17:32:37 | <fireonlive> | it's ~close to quebec so i guess it makes sense |
| 17:32:50 | <fireonlive> | didn't go more west/mid i guess |
| 17:32:56 | <fireonlive> | ah! https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-ca/lp/new-toronto-datacenter/ |
| 17:33:20 | <fireonlive> | https://www.ovhcloud.com/sites/default/files/styles/desktop_full_width/public/2024-02/asset_44x-8.webp |
| 17:33:24 | <fireonlive> | 'factories'? |
| 17:34:53 | <nicolas17> | they assemble their own servers I think |
| 17:35:02 | <fireonlive> | ahh |
| 17:35:05 | <fireonlive> | makes sense |
| 17:35:37 | <nicolas17> | I doubt they make their own motherboards, and if they did they would outsource the actual fabrication anyway, but assembly is definitely in-house |
| 17:35:56 | <nicolas17> | after their fire incident they showed how they were ramping up production to meet demand for all the people who needed replacement servers |
| 17:46:39 | <fireonlive> | ah yeah i doubt making mobos or anything too extreme |
| 17:46:51 | <fireonlive> | i'd love to see their pipeline in detail |
| 17:47:00 | <fireonlive> | the sheer scale must be something |
| 17:47:11 | <fireonlive> | i mean it's no google or aws but |
| 17:47:13 | <fireonlive> | still |
| 17:47:26 | <nicolas17> | AWS almost certainly designs their own boards |
| 17:47:32 | <nicolas17> | (but even then I doubt they fab) |
| 18:10:52 | <fireonlive> | that reminds me of... "opencompute"? |
| 18:11:27 | <fireonlive> | ah yeah https://www.opencompute.org/ https://www.opencompute.org/wiki/Main_Page |
| 18:12:10 | <fireonlive> | membership page: empty https://www.opencompute.org/membership/membership-organizational-directory |
| 18:12:17 | <fireonlive> | I thought a few big names were in it though |
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| 18:47:38 | <katia> | think that's just facebook |
| 19:00:19 | <steering> | https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/infrastructure/details-of-google-cloud-gcve-incident |
| 19:12:32 | <fireonlive> | ooh lets see |
| 19:15:29 | <nicolas17> | finally |
| 19:15:55 | <fireonlive> | lmao that's a big oops |
| 19:16:00 | <fireonlive> | but i thought it was much wors |
| 19:16:02 | <fireonlive> | worse* |
| 19:16:11 | <fireonlive> | like alll their data, all of their account |
| 19:17:00 | <fireonlive> | >This incident impacted: ... One of the customer’s multiple GCVE Private Clouds (across two zones). ... |
| 19:17:00 | <fireonlive> | >This incident did not impact: ... The customer’s other GCVE Private Clouds, Google Account, Orgs, Folders, or Projects. The customer’s data backups stored in Google Cloud Storage (GCS) in the same region. |
| 19:18:42 | <nicolas17> | the initial info said the Google account was deleted and they were saved by having backups on another provider |
| 19:18:47 | <nicolas17> | this sounds like the backups were in GCS? |
| 19:19:59 | <fireonlive> | ah right it did |
| 19:20:12 | <fireonlive> | maybe they still had backups at the 2nd company |
| 19:20:26 | <fireonlive> | but turns out the scope wasn't as big as they thought |
| 19:20:33 | <nicolas17> | yeah but now it's still unclear what backups they restored from |
| 19:21:04 | <nicolas17> | maybe they did have backups on a different provider, but that's not "what saved them", if the GCS backups were still usable |
| 19:21:44 | <nicolas17> | Netflix stopped supporting one of my Samsung TVs, time to riot and pirate |
| 19:22:02 | <fireonlive> | ah perhaps yeah |
| 19:22:10 | <fireonlive> | and always pirate :D |
| 19:22:39 | <nicolas17> | also wrong info online everywhere |
| 19:22:54 | <nicolas17> | "for a list of compatible devices see https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23876" |
| 19:23:06 | <nicolas17> | that page does not mention specific models |
| 19:23:31 | <nicolas17> | "The Netflix app will stop working on devices manufactured between 2010 (D-Series) and 2011 (E-Series). on August 19, 2023." -- https://www.samsung.com/ae/support/tv-audio-video/why-is-netflix-not-available-on-my-samsung-tv/ |
| 19:23:34 | <steering> | >This internal tool for capacity management was deprecated and fully automated in Q4 2023 |
| 19:23:34 | <nicolas17> | I have F-series |
| 19:23:50 | <steering> | >Google Cloud has since taken several actions ..., including: We deprecated the internal tool that triggered this sequence of events |
| 19:23:54 | <nicolas17> | "Netflix recently stopped supporting Samsung TVs manufactured in 2012 and 2013" -- samsung tech support chat just now |
| 19:23:55 | <nicolas17> | my TV has a label on the back with the model and serial number etc. and "December 2014" |
| 19:24:28 | <fireonlive> | <nicolas17> I have F-series < F |
| 19:24:51 | <fireonlive> | steering: tool removed, all is safe now :p |
| 19:24:56 | <steering> | i just |
| 19:25:12 | <steering> | they can't decide if they removed the tool in Q4 2023 or after the incident? |
| 19:25:22 | <fireonlive> | hmmm |
| 19:25:38 | <fireonlive> | good point |
| 19:28:49 | <fireonlive> | >We corrected the system behavior that sets GCVE Private Clouds for deletion for such deployment workflows. |
| 19:28:49 | <fireonlive> | wonder what that means |
| 19:29:28 | <nicolas17> | the underlying system no longer sets "expire in 1 year" |
| 19:29:34 | <@JAA> | ... especially since that deployment workflow doesn't exist anymore. |
| 19:30:13 | <fireonlive> | ah yes |
| 19:30:14 | <nicolas17> | JAA: reminds me of Trump saying that the thing wasn't a crime, and also he didn't do it |
| 19:30:17 | <fireonlive> | ah i was thinking maybe always soft delete |
| 19:30:25 | <fireonlive> | but lol @ it not existing anymore |
| 19:30:33 | <nicolas17> | using all the defenses at once |
| 19:31:45 | <@JAA> | nicolas17: And if he did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, the victim deserved it. Etc. |
| 19:32:07 | <nicolas17> | there isn't even an "if he did" conditional tho |
| 19:32:23 | <nicolas17> | "I didn't do that, but if I had done it, it wouldn't have been a crime" kinda makes sense |
| 19:32:35 | <@JAA> | Right |
| 19:32:49 | <nicolas17> | "I didn't do that and it wasn't a crime when I did it" is more sus :P |
| 19:33:26 | <fireonlive> | https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/05/mystery-malware-destroys-600000-routers-from-a-single-isp-during-72-hour-span/ |
| 19:43:05 | <@JAA> | nicolas17: I was referring to The Narcissist's Prayer, by the way. |
| 19:44:10 | <fireonlive> | imagine the logistics of replacing 600k routers |
| 19:44:16 | <fireonlive> | in an emergent fashion |
| 19:44:44 | <@JAA> | Yeah |
| 19:45:15 | <@JAA> | I wonder how long it took until that was complete. |
| 19:45:22 | <@JAA> | I doubt they or their supplier had that much stock. |
| 19:45:30 | <fireonlive> | >So sad that a company can treat customers like this and not care. |
| 19:45:51 | <fireonlive> | yeah for sure o_o |
| 19:46:18 | <fireonlive> | i'd hate to be waiting for a new modem myself |
| 19:47:23 | <nicolas17> | they can't reflash them? |
| 19:47:52 | <steering> | sounds like they wouldn't even boot, so no remote reflash anyway |
| 19:48:05 | <nicolas17> | not remotely no |
| 19:48:07 | <steering> | probably could like JTAG or something |
| 19:48:11 | <nicolas17> | it would be super time consuming but if the shipment delays of new routers are so long, it could be worth it to do in parallel? |
| 19:48:42 | <@JAA> | Yeah, start shipping some, take the routers that got replaced by those, reflash, etc. |
| 19:48:52 | <@JAA> | But oof |
| 19:49:49 | <nicolas17> | one reason why OVH was artisanally cleaning servers that didn't burn but were affected by smoke, was that they couldn't deliver *new* servers fast enough to cover demand and replace the burned ones |
| 19:50:34 | <steering> | it doesn't sound to me like they had much issue getting enough modems to send out. |
| 19:51:17 | <steering> | ... actually looking at the linked dslreports thread sounds like these are separate routers, but anyway |
| 19:52:11 | <@JAA> | I guess shipping out the same models again could turn out badly if the attacker repeats their little magic trick. |
| 19:52:25 | <steering> | I would guess they made the decision that they no longer wanted to trust that model, and might as well replace it. Yeah |
| 19:52:41 | <@JAA> | No time to assess how they got in and fix that. |
| 19:53:11 | <nicolas17> | I hope this doesn't get me in a watchlist BUT |
| 19:53:14 | <steering> | Overall I suspect it wouldn't be that hard for them to obtain replacements. Just expensive |
| 19:53:36 | <nicolas17> | are cable-TV cables isolated? |
| 19:53:39 | <steering> | (but what's expensive compared to paying people to reflash?) |
| 19:53:47 | <steering> | wdym isolated |
| 19:53:50 | <steering> | from other customers? hell naw |
| 19:53:55 | <nicolas17> | electrically |
| 19:53:59 | <@JAA> | insulated* |
| 19:54:13 | <@JAA> | (Yay, English) |
| 19:54:19 | <nicolas17> | if I send 220V into the coax cable, would I burn my neighbors' modems? |
| 19:54:25 | <steering> | ... probably |
| 19:54:27 | <nicolas17> | is it all just connected in parallel? |
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| 19:54:42 | <steering> | yeah pretty much |
| 19:55:03 | <@JAA> | It probably wouldn't end well with good old copper wires, either. |
| 19:55:10 | <steering> | splitters back to the tap, which is basically just a splitter itself |
| 19:55:41 | <nicolas17> | JAA: telephone doesn't have all customers hanging off the same wire though |
| 19:55:58 | <steering> | and then a big chonky boi coax back to the node from there |
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| 19:56:21 | <steering> | i assume taps will pass DC. dunno. |
| 19:56:30 | <nicolas17> | it used to have a different wire going from each customer all the way to the central exchange |
| 19:56:44 | <@JAA> | Yeah, but not anymore, right? |
| 19:57:27 | <@JAA> | And it might burn your neighbour's place (and yours) anyway by overheating the wires and causing spontaneous combustion since they're not designed for much current. :-D |
| 19:57:30 | <nicolas17> | not anymore, now it goes to a device closer to your house that would collect signals from multiple customers, maybe digitalize it, and send only one wire back to the central |
| 19:57:43 | <nicolas17> | but it's still not multiple customers hanging off the same electrical wire |
| 19:57:48 | <@JAA> | Right |
| 19:58:02 | <nicolas17> | you might burn up that hub device :P |
| 19:58:40 | <nicolas17> | but afaik coax *does* have everyone in a small area electrically connected to the same wire |
| 19:58:48 | <@JAA> | I see. |
| 19:59:06 | <nicolas17> | shorting it to ground might do a denial of service in your block |
| 20:00:00 | <nicolas17> | long long ago you could see your neighbor's internet traffic by tapping into the coax cable going to your modem |
| 20:00:15 | <nicolas17> | then they added encryption |
| 20:01:15 | <fireonlive> | https://www.spam-uk.com/wp-json/oembed/1.0/embed?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.spam-uk.com%2Fvariety%2Fspam-chopped-pork-and-ham%2F |
| 20:01:16 | <fireonlive> | >These are often insecure. If you need it unblocked, contact awsadmin@hormel.com |
| 20:01:17 | <fireonlive> | lmao |
| 20:02:25 | <fireonlive> | (a-ok in philipines tho: https://www.spam-ph.com/wp-json/oembed/1.0/embed?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.spam-ph.com%2Frecipe%2Fspam-pizza-casserole%2F) |
| 20:03:48 | <fireonlive> | power talk reminds me of people stealing a tiny tiny bit of electricity from the phone companies' land line |
| 20:04:07 | <fireonlive> | for when the power went out or something |
| 20:04:45 | <nicolas17> | my phone company stopped giving wired landline service |
| 20:04:55 | <nicolas17> | they claimed people were stealing the copper |
| 20:05:00 | <nicolas17> | (possibly bs) |
| 20:05:01 | <fireonlive> | hmm |
| 20:05:24 | <fireonlive> | i wonder how much phone line you'd have to rip up to get any decent amount |
| 20:05:59 | <nicolas17> | and sent me a device that connects to a cellular network and lets you connect a landline phone, keeping the existing number |
| 20:06:20 | <nicolas17> | without me agreeing to that |
| 20:06:35 | <nicolas17> | so if we ever cancel the landline service altogether |
| 20:06:39 | <nicolas17> | and they ask for the device back |
| 20:06:42 | <fireonlive> | oh huh |
| 20:06:58 | <nicolas17> | I'll ask for the paper I signed saying they can get it back |
| 20:08:14 | <nicolas17> | (I did not get such a thing to sign) |
| 20:08:26 | <nicolas17> | (ISPs always make you sign a contract like that when giving you the modem) |
| 20:09:38 | <fireonlive> | >:) |
| 20:09:39 | <@JAA> | I don't think I've ever signed a thing for the ISP-provided devices. It's part of the subscription contract instead. |
| 20:09:58 | <nicolas17> | JAA: in many countries, the ISP makes you *rent* a modem |
| 20:10:10 | <@JAA> | Yeah, I've heard. |
| 20:10:33 | <nicolas17> | and if you don't want to pay that extra monthly fee, you have to buy your own |
| 20:10:41 | <nicolas17> | I'm not sure if I *can* buy my own |
| 20:12:47 | <nicolas17> | JAA: well yes an ISP subscription contract probably includes the "we own the modem, we lend it to you but you have to give it back if you cancel the service" |
| 20:13:49 | <ymgve__> | the secret is to have the service for so long that the modem is outdated by the time you cancel |
| 20:13:51 | <nicolas17> | but when we originally contracted the landline phone service 20+ years ago, it probably said nothing about wireless phone devices they provide for landline-like service :P |
| 20:14:03 | <ymgve__> | and don't send it back unless they ask for it |
| 20:14:24 | <nicolas17> | now they unilaterally changed the terms by not giving copper-pair service |
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| 20:33:37 | <fireonlive> | someone asked me for a windows video editor? preferably opensource/free/easy to use.. they don't want to pay for premiere pro etc |
| 20:33:44 | <fireonlive> | anyone here have a recommendation? |
| 20:36:51 | <that_lurker> | I have been wating to test this https://github.com/mifi/lossless-cut |
| 20:37:24 | <that_lurker> | s/wating/wanting |
| 20:37:43 | <katia> | https://archive.org/details/windows-movie-maker-2018-full |
| 20:39:58 | <kiska> | nicolas17: You could... just send like 10kV down the line and fry everyone on the same tap |
| 20:40:55 | <nukke> | fireonlive: OpenShot, or Clipchamp if they're on Windows 11 |
| 20:41:05 | <nukke> | It's the new Windows Movie Maker |
| 20:41:16 | <kiska> | lmao we discussing UniSuper's GCVE subscription deletion? |
| 20:43:32 | <fireonlive> | thanks all :) |
| 20:44:28 | <nukke> | no u |
| 20:45:22 | | fireonlive doesn't deserve thanks |
| 20:47:45 | <that_lurker> | https://img.kuhaon.fun/u/7s1dVS.jpg |
| 20:48:36 | <fireonlive> | 🥵 |
| 20:48:41 | <nukke> | 😩 |
| 20:50:38 | <fireonlive> | kiska: autoexpire rules all |
| 20:54:32 | <fireonlive> | oh what's his dick that's making a new router company from scratch had two new videos while i wasn't looking "As a EU citizen, I opened a company in Delaware. Here's why. (And how)" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNqFma9FlTk & "We're building a high-end router. Here's the update for May 2024." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooj2fviV1rk |
| 21:23:23 | <fireonlive> | A crazy experience losing Apple earbuds in a remote town in Chile https://twitter.com/joshwhiton/status/1796222090216886682 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40528410 |
| 21:23:25 | <fireonlive> | o_O |
| 21:25:56 | <fireonlive> | creative way to do that..i guess |
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| 21:47:29 | | @JAA hugs his 3.5mm headphone jack. |
| 21:50:15 | <fireonlive> | i was surprised when my M1 air had one |
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| 21:53:29 | <ymgve> | if someone can make headphones for modern iphones for $15 I don't really care that they are abusing bluetooth and pocketing the change, it's still a better deal than the official ones |
| 21:55:05 | <ymgve> | like, the proper reaction to this is "cool hack" not "damn those chinese" |
| 21:55:42 | <nicolas17> | surely there's unlicensed-clone chips to get audio from Lightning? |
| 21:56:06 | <ymgve> | I guess there might be some cryptographic handshakes involved so it's not that easy |
| 21:56:44 | <fireonlive> | BT headphones without the battery is.. interesting |
| 21:56:45 | <nukke> | >wish @Apple |
| 21:56:47 | <nukke> | would devote an employee or two to cracking down on such a technological, psychological abomination as this. And I wish humanity would use its engineering prowess for good, and not opportunistic deception. |
| 21:56:54 | <nukke> | Oof this is a hot take imo |
| 21:56:56 | <fireonlive> | i doubt they put extra quality into the headphones themselves though |
| 21:57:08 | <nukke> | If apple starts whitelisting devices |
| 21:57:58 | <fireonlive> | yeah more DRM isn't the best take there |
| 21:58:32 | <ymgve> | good to see hackernews isn't onboard with his conclusion either |
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| 22:22:38 | <fireonlive> | https://x.com/jaketropolis/status/1796289227040215294 |
| 22:26:02 | <fireonlive> | don't look up why chainsaws were invente |
| 22:26:03 | <fireonlive> | d |
| 22:26:19 | <Notrealname1234> | Medical |
| 22:26:30 | <Notrealname1234> | Hospital |
| 22:26:51 | <Notrealname1234> | Chainsaw the bod- |
| 22:27:21 | <@JAA> | > odd. im only seeing 31 charges listed here? |
| 22:27:22 | <@JAA> | :-) |
| 22:29:51 | <fireonlive> | :D |
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| 23:14:18 | <steering> | https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/05/spotify-wont-open-source-car-thing-but-starts-refund-process/ really wish it was still a crime to sell someone a product and then intentionally break it when you decide it isn't making you enough dough |
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| 23:17:48 | <nukke> | Louis Rossman was encouraging people do to credit card chargebacks and mail Spotify HQ the products |
| 23:19:42 | <@JAA> | Can you do chargebacks potentially two years after the purchase? |
| 23:19:58 | <fireonlive> | i think my limit is 90 days? |
| 23:20:30 | <fireonlive> | it's been a while since i pulled out the chargeback hammer though |
| 23:24:05 | <@JAA> | That sounds like the right order of magnitude, yeah. |
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| 23:28:08 | <@JAA> | Looks like it's 30 days from the invoice date here. |
| 23:29:45 | <steering> | you'd think either the card networks or the govt would set some rule for that but i never could find a good answer. |
| 23:30:21 | <steering> | all the stuff i could ever find was "well it's some number of days from either the date it posts or the statement date so good luck" \o/ |
| 23:31:29 | <fireonlive> | https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/29/24167407/google-search-algorithm-documents-leak-confirmation |
| 23:31:50 | <fireonlive> | hmm yeah a universal rule would be good |
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| 23:31:58 | <fireonlive> | or bare minimum |
| 23:35:05 | <@JAA> | This is apparently what that's about: https://github.com/googleapis/elixir-google-api/commit/d7a637f4391b2174a2cf43ee11e6577a204a161e |
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| 23:38:13 | <nicolas17> | "documents" |
| 23:51:22 | <fireonlive> | nicolas17: ikr |
| 23:51:27 | <fireonlive> | https://github.com/googleapis/elixir-google-api/issues/10755 lol |
| 23:51:52 | <fireonlive> | i'm a little surprised google hasn't tried to cover it up? |
| 23:51:57 | <fireonlive> | maybe they know better |