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00:13:54<FireFly>you probably don't want to parse the files yourself (as there could be all kinds abstractions, parameterised derivations, etc), but rather use nix to evaluate nixpkgs and query for the various metadata you need
00:23:22<FireFly>lessee
00:23:28<kpcyrd>FireFly: I'm aware, but it doesn't seem to be possible: nix-instantiate --json --eval -E 'with import <nixpkgs> {}; lib.mapAttrs (name: pkg: { inherit name; version = pkg.version or "unknown"; }) pkgs'
00:24:09<kpcyrd>this I can do: nix-instantiate --eval --json --strict -E 'with import <nixpkgs> {}; pkgs.zlib.version or "unknown"'
00:24:44<kpcyrd>I can also list all package names: nix-instantiate --json --eval -E 'with import <nixpkgs> {}; lib.attrNames pkgs'
00:25:08<FireFly>yeah, the former will fail since some packages fail to evaluate, so you'll have to at the very least builtins.tryEval (but I'm not sure if that's enough)
00:25:15<FireFly>for each package
00:26:04<FireFly>if you drop the --json for now the error should be more clear wrt the AAAA package
00:26:33<FireFly>oh, or maybe not, hm
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00:28:19<FireFly>I'm too tired for this at the moment, but maybe tomorrow
00:28:29<kpcyrd>I figured out what the AAAA error means, but I'm lost how apparently there's no common solution for this
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00:30:36<FireFly>yeah, it's.. a bit surprising there isn't a nice helper already for traversing the package tree that I could see when I looked the other day
00:31:34<FireFly>the pkgs/top-level/release-attrpaths-superset.nix might be useful
00:34:22<kpcyrd>I'm grateful Guix provides https://guix.gnu.org/packages.json
00:35:07<FireFly>I looked a bit at guix recently and.. there's a lot they seem to have more sorted out honestly
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03:04:25<steering>JAA: solanum's ban checking is even more broken, if the channel is -n anyone can send to chan freely, no +b/+q checks :D
03:04:35<steering>done intentionally according to the comments
03:06:06<fireonlive>>_<
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05:53:12<fireonlive>πŸ†“ https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/farming-simulator-22 https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/warhammer-40000-gladius-relics-of-war https://store.steampowered.com/app/489630/Warhammer_40000_Gladius__Relics_of_War/
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06:24:22<that_lurker>-rss- Apple signs deal with OpenAI for iOS, still wants Google as an 'option': https://www.androidauthority.com/apple-signs-deal-openai-iphones-3446254/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40486242
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06:44:44<fireonlive>oh lord
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08:53:22<immibis>Apple wants Google for something? Weird.
08:53:59<immibis>almost every channel is +n. -n is a weird configuration.
08:54:06<immibis>also +t
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09:13:59<steering>immibis: sure, but those channels should still be able to prevent people from sending to them :)
09:15:43<steering>-t still requires that you be on channel to set topic - and (just tested) if banned-but-on-channel it'll tell you you're not opped (even though -t)
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15:08:07<@JAA>steering: Hmm. I guess that kind of makes sense. I find the caching issues around ban and quiet lists very annoying though.
15:08:56<@JAA>https://github.com/solanum-ircd/solanum/issues/426
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17:03:41<nukke>https://bsky.app/profile/archive.org/post/3ktiatctiqm2r
17:10:44<fireonlive>:(
17:14:46<that_lurker>that is what I was afraid would happen after the library debacle
17:20:24<nulldata>It's not the first time, and it won't be the last time. It's just one of those things you have to deal with being a known website on the Internet.
17:22:56<@arkiver>that_lurker: what is the library debacle?
17:24:10<that_lurker>arkiver: The latest lawsuit against IA
17:25:06<@arkiver>but this is not connected to the ddos right?
17:25:10<that_lurker>nope
17:26:20<that_lurker>arkiver: This was about the bsky.app post a little above (https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:wk2krd5ck53iqywfc3bdpzhc/bafkreicmfleypf3q3lvqxxk3tsw7rqvppdpdv5ayrkmhkxkqgrtgljwfpu@jpeg)
17:26:37<that_lurker>god that is an ugly link
17:27:24<that_lurker>The ddos is most likely russians being angry about the material found in IA
17:28:46<@JAA>Specifically this reply: https://bsky.app/profile/mrl53.bsky.social/post/3ktidxyjy3l2p
17:28:46<nulldata>I don't think there's evidence pointing to any reason for the attack?
17:29:29<@arkiver>that_lurker: i don't know if it's russians, i would not jump to that conclusion.
17:29:47<that_lurker>nulldata: No that was just speculation. Not sure if anyone has come forward with it
17:32:10<nulldata>It could just as easily be script kiddies showing off some vulnerable home routers they compromised as proof for a DDoS service or for 'the lulz'
17:34:33<nulldata>Given IA's limited resources I doubt it takes much
17:34:54<@JAA>'Look ma, I can knock one of the top websites of the internet offline!'
17:34:59<that_lurker>That is true. I would like to know the volume of the ddos
17:46:29<fireonlive>boots4kidz
17:46:35<fireonlive>πŸ₯ΎπŸ₯Ύ
17:47:10<fireonlive>go back to taking krebs offline sheesh
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19:16:01<immibis>I've recently seen a lot of people talking about going back to non-web networks for things but that's because this week was apparently berlin decentralization week
19:25:10<fireonlive>what's the decentralized messenger d'jour?
19:42:10<fireonlive>so uh, what's the latest method to archive onlyfans.. asking for a friend
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19:47:06<that_lurker>fireonlive: https://github.com/datawhores/OF-Scraper
19:47:49<fireonlive>:)
19:47:50<fireonlive>tks
19:49:29<nicolas17>fitting name
19:56:52<nicolas17>fireonlive: what do you see first if you Google for "clippy"?
19:57:11<fireonlive>wikipedia for Office Assistant
19:58:11<nicolas17>https://x.com/quantian1/status/1795114462254419970?
19:59:48<fireonlive>amazing
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20:01:41<fireonlive>Google AI said to put glue in pizza β€” so I made a pizza with glue and ate it https://www.businessinsider.com/google-ai-glue-pizza-i-tried-it-2024-5
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20:18:03<nukke>Finally some hard-hitting journalism
20:27:41<fireonlive>absolutely! business insider was slipping but now i have renewed hope
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21:06:10<fireonlive>"bunny.net is not working out" ~ https://infosec.exchange/@jerry/112514972673890309
21:06:11<fireonlive>hm
21:14:25<fireonlive>Reclaiming IPv4 Class E's 240.0.0.0/4 https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/class-e-addresses-in-the-real-world https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40491038
21:14:44<fireonlive>i guess amazon ran out of RFC1918/RFC???? and is now using 240.0.0.0/4 internally as well lol
21:15:00<fireonlive>v6 pls
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