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| 00:18:04 | <Doranwen> | thuban: just have to check - does the live OS I use to install grub have to be the same as the OS one? I'm also seeing stuff about booting in EFI mode to install grub so I don't get a legacy version and I'm not sure how to make that work, am afraid I'm going to botch something because I'm not sure of what I'm doing |
| 00:19:49 | <Doranwen> | I did see all the instructions about doing it from the correct system and all that |
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| 00:21:23 | <kiska> | Oh... https://server8.kiska.pw/uploads/0a4dee95e15b796e/image.png |
| 00:21:44 | <thuban> | Doranwen: in theory, no (especially if you follow the chroot instructions). in practice, maybe. sometimes you just have to try stuff and see if it works |
| 00:21:47 | <thuban> | you already have a backup, and you can always repartition your drive if you have a problem, so there's no real risk here |
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| 00:22:54 | <deadorbit> | good evening everyone |
| 00:23:58 | <Notrealname1234> | Hey there |
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| 00:26:05 | <deadorbit> | getting here has been a wild ride |
| 00:26:18 | <deadorbit> | but i think it started with a hacker news article about Anna's Archive |
| 00:30:07 | <fireonlive> | oh! |
| 00:30:14 | <fireonlive> | welcome :) |
| 00:30:33 | <fireonlive> | to the world of yesterday.... |
| 00:31:15 | <Notrealname1234> | Tomorrow |
| 00:31:28 | <deadorbit> | something like Hacker News > Anna's Archive > ipdl.cat > freeread.org > mhut.com > /r/DataHoarders Discord > here |
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| 00:42:58 | <Doranwen> | thuban: I'm assuming that just updating grub isn't sufficient, that I need to actually install it - since this comp had legacy grub on there before, is there something I need to do to make sure it installs the EFI version of grub or will grub-install automatically do the EFI version? The answer's old enough that it's unclear and I'm seeing msgs both ways... |
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| 00:55:58 | <Doranwen> | yeahhhh, it just says "This GPT partition label has no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible!" and fails to install, bah |
| 00:56:13 | <Doranwen> | It's not doing it as efi for sure |
| 00:57:36 | <thuban> | Doranwen: yes, you will need to do grub-install before update-grub. using the appropriate `--target` (probably x86_64-efi) can't hurt. whether your `grub-install` supports efi targets may depend on the version and/or your distro's packaging; you may need to install a separate efi package |
| 00:59:44 | <Doranwen> | That's what I got when I tried grub-install |
| 01:00:11 | <Doranwen> | I'm doing it from a live disc for Mint 21.2 |
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| 01:03:09 | <Doranwen> | Aha, reinstalling grub-efi may have fixed it |
| 01:03:14 | <Doranwen> | It only had grub-pc installed |
| 01:03:41 | <Doranwen> | Yay, no error reported |
| 01:05:11 | <Doranwen> | However, one of the checks it had was to run `blkid | grep -i efi` and compare with ` grep -i efi /etc/fstab` - but when I run the first command, it doesn't find the efi partition at all |
| 01:05:38 | <Doranwen> | Iirc, it didn't have the mountpoint of /boot/efi, I may have missed something when I was setting it up |
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| 01:35:32 | <steering> | tfw CRO's repsonse to "we should purge unengaged recipients" is "omg no we can't possibly do that panic and accuse him of unprofessionalism because i suck at my job" |
| 01:35:46 | <steering> | (re the spam thing yesterday) |
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| 01:49:12 | <fireonlive> | did they operate a scam call centre in their past life offering "windows security refunds"? |
| 01:49:15 | <fireonlive> | 🤔 |
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| 02:37:15 | <fireonlive> | >Oh My Git: An open source game about learning Git |
| 02:37:15 | <fireonlive> | https://ohmygit.org/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39976634 |
| 02:41:33 | <myself> | ohhhhh I need that |
| 02:46:16 | <nukke> | I thought games were supposed to be fun, not stressful |
| 02:52:11 | <fireonlive> | x3 |
| 03:05:39 | <nulldata> | Another update on one of the SBNation podcasts - https://www.podbean.com/media/share/dir-8pi3g-1e269490 |
| 03:06:00 | <nulldata> | oops meant for -bs |
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| 03:50:14 | <nicolas17> | realizing I'm an AWS spot instance |
| 03:51:02 | <fireonlive> | oh? |
| 03:51:34 | <nicolas17> | can be useful |
| 03:51:37 | <nicolas17> | can have great performance |
| 03:51:50 | <nicolas17> | but don't use it as the load-bearing part of anything important, you can't rely on its availability |
| 03:51:56 | <nicolas17> | it can be interrupted or shut down at any time |
| 03:52:29 | <fireonlive> | uwu |
| 03:52:34 | | fireonlive pats nicolas17 |
| 03:55:25 | <nicolas17> | if you use it for extra processing capacity, it can be very helpful, if you make it Responsible for the Project, you're gonna have a bad time when it unexpectedly fails |
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| 04:19:11 | <fireonlive> | https://dl.fireon.live/irc/57ff0f2149ac6e2a/navy.png |
| 04:19:28 | <fireonlive> | https://dl.fireon.live/irc/8aca18635abfa8bf/navy2.png |
| 04:19:36 | <fireonlive> | notice anything lol |
| 04:20:36 | <angenieux> | "I eat ass (heart)"? |
| 04:20:45 | <fireonlive> | indeed! |
| 04:20:58 | <fireonlive> | I guess the official social media didn't really care lol |
| 04:21:28 | <angenieux> | amazing |
| 04:22:20 | <fireonlive> | one of the images is here, https://www.defense.gov/Multimedia/Photos/igphoto/2003407025/ |
| 04:22:38 | <fireonlive> | should see if can find the others in case they yoink |
| 04:23:42 | <fireonlive> | https://www.defense.gov/Multimedia/Photos/?igsearch=James%20Burrous |
| 04:23:48 | <fireonlive> | hm only 1 result |
| 04:26:47 | <nukke> | isn't the navy infamous for having a ton of gay dudes (atl east when compared to the other branches of the military)? |
| 04:27:47 | <angenieux> | that is the stereotype, but I wonder if that is accurate |
| 04:28:01 | <fireonlive> | yeah, looks like they killed the post |
| 04:28:07 | <fireonlive> | https://dl.fireon.live/irc/b9f9bc803384695b/image.png |
| 04:28:24 | <fireonlive> | all I found was this one person screenshotting it and tagging them |
| 04:28:37 | <fireonlive> | scrubbed all but one image too I think |
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| 04:30:20 | <angenieux> | I wonder if the photographer or the subject got a dressing down for that |
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| 04:32:22 | <fireonlive> | ooh probably |
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| 06:30:07 | <that_lurker> | To the lounge users here. Remember to add the database cleaner configuration before updating https://github.com/thelounge/thelounge/blob/f5867c3643ba8ef24dcf5a7010f39fd6050d0954/defaults/config.js#L321 |
| 06:30:58 | <fireonlive> | that_lurker: it's off by default if missing right? |
| 06:31:15 | <that_lurker> | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 06:31:22 | <fireonlive> | hm |
| 06:31:29 | <fireonlive> | would be good to explicitly define though yeah |
| 06:31:33 | <fireonlive> | :) |
| 06:36:46 | <that_lurker> | Oh well I enabled it for my instance as after 10 years I don't care if you joined, left or changed status :P |
| 06:37:41 | <that_lurker> | "- `statusOnly`: Only delete message types which are status related (e.g. away, back, join, parts, mode, ctcp...) but keep actual messages from nicks. This keeps the DB size down while retaining "precious" messages." |
| 06:38:34 | <fireonlive> | :O |
| 06:39:13 | <fireonlive> | that_lurker: https://dl.fireon.live/irc/d4ba4e80d890fc50/wtf-delete.png |
| 06:40:21 | <that_lurker> | Well it will delete it from the DB, but text version of the logs should still contain the data if I understood correctly |
| 06:41:13 | <fireonlive> | true :) |
| 06:42:54 | <that_lurker> | Would be nice if the cleanup code would also rotate and compress the text logs though |
| 06:43:02 | <fireonlive> | zstd all the logs! |
| 06:43:18 | <fireonlive> | also if the lounge would take more care for weird channel names |
| 06:43:26 | <fireonlive> | but a lot of clients have odd problems with that |
| 06:43:59 | <fireonlive> | (#// and # are the same file f.e.) |
| 06:47:26 | <that_lurker> | That's just good storage optimization. Why have two files when you can just have one :P |
| 06:48:12 | <fireonlive> | :P |
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| 07:22:08 | <fireonlive> | [381] We would like to take this moment to remind you that we accept absolutely no liability for the insanity you're about to endure. |
| 07:22:09 | <fireonlive> | :D |
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| 08:24:41 | <pabs> | new technique for blocking ssh attack botnets https://discuss.systems/@ricci/112247553557306560 |
| 08:24:53 | <pabs> | (based on sets of usernames) |
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| 13:33:25 | <pabs> | Cloudflare IPO video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcbcklrmNdM |
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| 15:21:36 | <nukke> | https://i.imgur.com/tbvqSs9.jpeg |
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| 15:49:04 | <deadorbit> | gm fam |
| 15:54:19 | <fireonlive> | 👋 |
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| 16:47:20 | <nulldata> | https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2024-April/225407.html |
| 16:48:17 | <fireonlive> | yee :3 |
| 16:49:22 | <fireonlive> | see also https://circleid.com/posts/20120713_silly_bing https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2024-February/224864.html |
| 16:50:00 | <fireonlive> | >A few years ago the bingbot got trapped but fortunately I knew someone at Microsoft who could pass the word. He reported back that while he could not go into detail, there was a great deal of animated conversation at the other end of the hall, and shortly after that it stopped. |
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| 17:31:03 | <fireonlive> | nicolas17: when next apple homepod |
| 17:33:04 | <deadorbit> | can i run Warrior from a dedicated server? |
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| 17:43:32 | <katia> | deadorbit, yes, you could also run the project docker containers directly, though |
| 17:44:20 | <deadorbit> | katia thats what i mean, run warrior in a docker container on a vps |
| 17:44:27 | <deadorbit> | wasnt sure if the commercial IP would be a problem |
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| 17:47:22 | <katia> | deadorbit, see https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/telegram-grab |
| 17:47:37 | <katia> | there's a docker command to run the project container directly |
| 17:47:47 | <katia> | it'll be probably be less overhead than warrior |
| 17:47:50 | <katia> | and you can set higher concurrency |
| 17:48:03 | <dead0rbit> | ok |
| 17:48:46 | <dead0rbit> | i'm getting 429'd like a mofo on the roblox project haha |
| 17:49:04 | <dead0rbit> | i set up multiple instances in my house, maybe that was a bad idea >_> |
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| 17:59:35 | <katia> | dead0rbit, yeah, you want 1 instance, with concurrency 1, per IP, there, the rate limit is like 20/minute |
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| 18:02:47 | <fireonlive> | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40002532 |
| 18:07:26 | <katia> | for roblox comments anyway |
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| 18:49:18 | <fireonlive> | https://twstalker.com/itssimontime/status/1761902529078837287 |
| 18:49:20 | <fireonlive> | it's back! |
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| 19:37:51 | <nicolas17> | pabs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idwkj3bFfe0 (I didn't watch it yet) |
| 19:53:54 | <fireonlive> | ugh i hate mailing list software i can't just chop off my unique email ID and forward it etc |
| 19:54:02 | <fireonlive> | dun want someone to unsub me |
| 19:54:04 | <fireonlive> | etc |
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| 20:36:09 | <fireonlive> | > I ported THOUSANDS of apps to Windows 95 |
| 20:36:10 | <fireonlive> | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTUMNtKQLl8 |
| 20:44:59 | <fireonlive> | >EXT - STREET |
| 20:44:59 | <fireonlive> | >"why was dotnet not released on windows 95" |
| 20:44:59 | <fireonlive> | >"what is windows 95 again?" |
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| 21:17:24 | <fireonlive> | this is weirdly pretty well produced? |
| 21:17:28 | <fireonlive> | (just background noise) |
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| 21:32:49 | <fireonlive> | https://dl.fireon.live/irc/ee16a1a8e4871aa8/preserve.png |
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| 22:04:11 | <TheTechRobo> | fireonlive: Oh, yeah, MattKC is really good production quality |
| 22:04:31 | <TheTechRobo> | He's a good balance between technical and general audiences |
| 22:06:19 | <fireonlive> | oh sweet |
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| 22:15:15 | <@rewby|backup> | MattKC is always a good watch. Man is entirely too skilled for the shitposting he does. |
| 22:17:01 | <steering> | fireonlive be like *adds to auto-download list* |
| 22:17:31 | <@rewby|backup> | Another is kkclue/planet clue |
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| 22:20:08 | <fireonlive> | :D |
| 22:20:20 | <fireonlive> | i shall check out kkclue too thanks |
| 22:23:33 | <@rewby|backup> | He goes by planet clue these days |
| 22:23:38 | <@rewby|backup> | Still good content |
| 22:23:44 | <fireonlive> | ah :) |
| 22:23:47 | <@rewby|backup> | Just slightly less skilled than matt |
| 22:23:52 | <@rewby|backup> | But very fun stuff |
| 22:23:59 | <fireonlive> | that .net thing was a ride for sure |
| 22:24:08 | <fireonlive> | (by matt) |
| 22:24:12 | <@rewby|backup> | Like, matt will reverse engineer a forgotten Lego game because he can |
| 22:24:26 | <@rewby|backup> | And then make a whole suite of modding tools |
| 22:24:41 | <@rewby|backup> | (The Lego island saga is amazing) |
| 22:25:02 | <fireonlive> | i should give that a watch; i somewhat remember playing it as a kid |
| 22:25:26 | <@rewby|backup> | This man be making this game run properly on modern computers |
| 22:25:29 | <@rewby|backup> | On his own |
| 22:25:40 | <fireonlive> | amazing |
| 22:25:58 | <@rewby|backup> | This saga is truly worth a watch |
| 22:26:13 | <fireonlive> | i'll take you up on that for sure |
| 22:26:35 | <@rewby|backup> | https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbpl-gZkNl2Db4xcAsT_xOfOwRk-2DPHL |
| 22:26:57 | <fireonlive> | :3 |
| 22:27:03 | <@rewby|backup> | And the decomp series https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbpl-gZkNl2COf_bB6cfgTapD5WduAfPz |
| 22:35:35 | <@rewby|backup> | I can also recommend bringus studios. Very amusing |
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| 22:42:40 | <fireonlive> | "Jailbreaking a Prison Laptop to play Prison Games" haha |
| 22:44:16 | <nulldata> | Heh was just about to post the MattKC video - very well done |
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| 23:09:06 | <fireonlive> | :3 |
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| 23:31:25 | <@JAA> | Ooh, new version of the 'Google is using brain waves to control us all' email just dropped. |
| 23:34:33 | <nulldata> | Meh no need to worry imo - Google Brain Waves will enter the Graveyard soon enough. |
| 23:35:16 | <@JAA> | :-) |
| 23:38:05 | <fireonlive> | tfw *you* end up on killedbygoogle.com |
| 23:40:03 | <nicolas17> | http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/5587 x_X |
| 23:41:38 | <fireonlive> | and a follow-up replies on twitter: https://twstalker.com/amichlin/status/1778492673113936007 |
| 23:42:22 | <fireonlive> | and a noteworthy reply to the above: https://twitter.com/phys_ballsocket/status/1778545338338464145 |
| 23:42:47 | <@JAA> | Ouch |
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| 23:52:02 | <fireonlive> | twitter's new '3 clicks to see who liked this tweet' thing sucks |
| 23:52:22 | <fireonlive> | hi nicolas17 |
| 23:52:24 | <fireonlive> | :3 |
| 23:52:46 | <nicolas17> | what |
| 23:55:05 | <fireonlive> | you tweet liker you |