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| 00:51:39 | <qwertyasdfuiopghjkl> | nicolas17: (also, I kind of feel that the way you worded the "uh yes [...] modify tarballs" part seems a bit insensitive about a real problem some people are trying to fix. To me, (assuming I'm not misinterpreting something) it looks like part of the reason the poster is angry about Software Heritage might be that there's so many *actual* |
| 00:51:39 | <qwertyasdfuiopghjkl> | transphobes and other assholes she's had to deal with that it gets easy for her to interpret someone being unhelpful as doing so for malicious reasons (from the sentences after the quoted block of text, it looks like the word "integrity" was interpreted as referencing some sort of dogwhistle, instead of the cryptographic(?) meaning that was |
| 00:51:40 | <qwertyasdfuiopghjkl> | intended) instead of them just [[misunderstanding/not understanding] the problem/not thinking if it could be fixed some other way/being lazy/miswording something/etc] (idk the actual reason, just guessing), so in that context, some of your text could be misinterpreted as making fun of her.) (btw, sorry if this mess of parentheses is unreadable, I'm |
| 00:51:40 | <qwertyasdfuiopghjkl> | not really good at precisely wording stuff and I forgot what I was going to write halfway through.) |
| 00:53:22 | <nicolas17> | hm yes it's true integrity could be misinterpreted that way |
| 00:53:42 | <nicolas17> | similarly she makes a big deal about blockchain vs merkle tree when *technically* they're pretty much the same thing |
| 00:53:48 | <steering> | anyone can violate hanlon's razor, doesn't make it correct :) |
| 01:00:11 | <qwertyasdfuiopghjkl> | I think the blockchain thing might be misunderstanding the "hashes of stuff" part as being something they added on instead of it being something git does by itself? (disclaimer that I have basically no knowledge of how git works, so this might be incorrect). also, fuck the cryptocurrency/NFT people for ruining the reputation of everything adjacent |
| 01:00:11 | <qwertyasdfuiopghjkl> | to it |
| 01:02:50 | <@JAA> | Your understanding of Git is correct. They talk about rewriting history, which indicates to me that they should know what a commit hash is. |
| 01:04:00 | <nicolas17> | whether SWH uses its own merkle tree to store things or just a plain mutable database, I can totally see why SWH would want to store original commit hashes and not retroactively change them if someone rewrites history in their repo |
| 01:05:02 | <@JAA> | You would think that they'd just store both versions. The repo under the old URL would remain in the archive, and there's not really a way to link it to the new one except manually precisely because the entire history got rewritten. |
| 01:05:35 | <@JAA> | (Assuming they also changed the username or similar, at least.) |
| 01:05:44 | <fireonlive> | AIUI the username stayed the same |
| 01:05:52 | <@JAA> | Ah |
| 01:05:53 | <fireonlive> | (as did the repo url) |
| 01:06:05 | <@JAA> | Then the deadname should only appear in older snapshots, right? |
| 01:06:16 | <fireonlive> | i think so.. |
| 01:06:41 | <@JAA> | At least I'd assume SWH not to break when rearchiving a repo under the same URL that has been entirely replaced. |
| 01:07:29 | <TheTechRobo> | I think yeah, the best way to handle this would be to keep older snapshots the same so as not to break everything, but allow people to request a notice or something to be added to the snapshot |
| 01:09:11 | <@JAA> | The repo linked in the post has the first SWH visit in April 2023 though. |
| 01:09:13 | <TheTechRobo> | Or allow some kind of exclusion system in extreme cases |
| 01:13:30 | <@JAA> | Found it, the repo did change but for unrelated reasons. |
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| 01:57:58 | <fireonlive> | https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/us-billionaire-drowns-tesla-after-rescuers-struggle-cars-strengthened-glass-1723876 |
| 01:58:16 | <fireonlive> | >Angela Chao, the billionaire sister-in-law of Sen. Mitch McConnell, tragically drowned in a pond at her Texas ranch. It is speculated that she may have accidentally put her Tesla in reverse while attempting a three-point turn. |
| 01:58:17 | <fireonlive> | >Regrettably, details about Chao's death are still few and far between. This lack of information has led some, including prominent hedge fund manager J. Kyle Bass, founder of Texas-based Hayman Capital Management, to speculate that Tesla may have been hacked. |
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| 02:05:16 | <nulldata> | "0 Connect timed out. http://assets.myflashfetish.com/swf/mp3/mff-txtzoom.swf" |
| 02:05:21 | <nulldata> | Ah damn, it's dead |
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| 02:07:32 | <nulldata> | Ah lame - it was a Flash-based music playlist you could embed on your MySpace profile |
| 02:08:29 | <fireonlive> | ah, boo |
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| 04:11:46 | <nulldata> | https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/12/australia/latam-airlines-flight-injuries-new-zealand-tuesday-intl-hnk/index.html |
| 04:12:07 | <nulldata> | More details on the Boeing 'technical event' |
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| 13:53:32 | <nulldata> | https://nypost.com/2024/03/12/us-news/faa-audit-of-boeings-737-production-found-mechanics-using-hotel-card-and-dish-soap-as-makeshift-tools-report/ |
| 13:55:08 | <nulldata> | > "FAA auditors spotted mechanics from the company using a hotel key card to check the seal on a door in one instance and witnessed other Spirit mechanics applying Dawn liquid soap to a door seal “as a lubricant in the fit-up process,” the Times reported." |
| 13:56:01 | <nulldata> | Has anyone checked on nukke yet? |
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| 14:56:32 | <fireonlive> | :o |
| 14:57:42 | <katia> | RIP nukke |
| 14:59:37 | <nulldata> | F |
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| 19:20:22 | <@JAA> | RIP nukke and nicolas17 |
| 19:20:59 | <kiska> | OOF |
| 19:33:51 | <fireonlive> | rip |
| 19:34:09 | <fireonlive> | !tell nicolas17 you died a hero |
| 19:34:09 | <eggdrop> | [tell] ok, I'll tell nicolas17 when they join next |
| 19:34:30 | <fireonlive> | nukke: i'll wait for those hard drives |
| 19:34:34 | <fireonlive> | :3 |
| 19:35:10 | <fireonlive> | if the rescue drones odn't make it ofc |
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| 19:36:11 | <fireonlive> | https://fly.io/blog/jit-wireguard-peers/ >Editor’s note: Despite our tearful protests, Lillian has decided to move on from Fly.io to explore new pursuits. We wish her much success and happiness! ✨ |
| 19:36:14 | <fireonlive> | i guess they left on good terms |
| 19:36:59 | <fireonlive> | (via https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39688545) |
| 19:37:26 | <fireonlive> | part 2 is out: https://cohost.org/arborelia/post/5052044-the-software-heritag |
| 19:37:27 | <fireonlive> | cc pabs |
| 19:39:19 | <@JAA> | an hero* |
| 19:42:57 | <fireonlive> | ah yes :d |
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| 21:06:13 | <fireonlive> | Today, the CRTC is launching a public consultation to gather views on the regulatory framework for the Online News Act (formerly Bill C-18). This consultation follows the publication, on December 15, 2023, of regulations by the Department of Canadian Heritage on the application of the Act. |
| 21:06:13 | <fireonlive> | https://www.canada.ca/en/radio-television-telecommunications/news/2024/03/crtc-launches-public-consultation-to-implement-the-online-news-act.html |
| 21:06:23 | <fireonlive> | let the popcorn fuel roll in |
| 21:14:45 | <fireonlive> | welp, 254+ tabs open in firefox solved |
| 21:15:07 | <fireonlive> | came back from the bathroom and firefox restarted for an update i guess? and reopen closed tabs didn't open them all back up lol |
| 21:15:51 | <fireonlive> | ah got it in reopen all windows xP |
| 21:16:11 | <fireonlive> | now those tabs i'll deffo look though at some point are saved |
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| 21:54:27 | <fireonlive> | "Show HN: Caltrans CCTV" "Random live traffic feeds from across California." https://ctcctv.pages.dev/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39691796 |
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| 22:00:08 | <eggdrop> | [tell] nicolas17: [2024-03-13T19:34:09Z] <fireonlive> you died a hero |
| 22:05:37 | <fireonlive> | an hero* |
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| 23:21:27 | <nulldata> | Anyone else feverishly refreshing Google News results for Boeing, awaiting to hear the fate of nukke? |
| 23:23:28 | <katia> | RIP nukke |
| 23:24:06 | <fireonlive> | come back nukky baby 🥺 |
| 23:24:18 | <fireonlive> | !seen nukke |
| 23:24:19 | <eggdrop> | [seen] nukke (~nukke@hackint/user/nukke) was last seen messaging on #memes 22 hours 55 minutes 44 seconds ago (2024-03-13T00:28:34Z). nukke is still on #memes. |
| 23:24:28 | <fireonlive> | at least he went out with a meme |
| 23:28:37 | <joepie91|m> | https://social.pixie.town/@joepie91/112090933859077207 |
| 23:28:44 | <nicolas17> | anyone get packet loss pinging either 152.171.104.37 or 159.203.64.167? |
| 23:29:14 | <nicolas17> | I have >20% packet loss *between* those two |
| 23:29:47 | <joepie91|m> | high pings on the former and variable pings on the latter but no packet loss on either |
| 23:30:27 | <nulldata> | So far 2 drops pinging 152.171.104.37 |
| 23:36:54 | <qwertyasdfuiopghjkl> | I had 3 out of 100 dropped on the former, 0 of 100 dropped on the latter: https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/eRfx8/ping.txt |
| 23:37:41 | <nicolas17> | I'm filing a digitalocean ticket, but the problem may solve itself before they even read it -_- |