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| 02:10:43 | <fireonlive> | DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0 |
| 02:11:13 | <nicolas17> | I once sent that in a busy channel in freenode |
| 02:11:15 | <nicolas17> | guess what happened |
| 02:11:46 | <fireonlive> | lots of disconnects? :D |
| 02:12:21 | <nicolas17> | a freenode-controlled moderation bot banned my IP :< |
| 02:12:26 | <nicolas17> | I was slightly alcoholized |
| 02:12:28 | <nicolas17> | it was a bad idea |
| 02:12:32 | <fireonlive> | ooof |
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| 02:22:28 | <myself> | That seems to fall under the attitude I've taken with my job lately: If they'd fire for me that, I don't want to work there. |
| 02:23:06 | <nicolas17> | myself: eh idk, seemed justified |
| 02:23:28 | <nicolas17> | at the time enough people were still vulnerable that it was disruptive |
| 02:23:52 | <myself> | ohhh, far far distant past freenode |
| 02:24:36 | <nicolas17> | pre acquisition/takeover for sure :P |
| 02:26:05 | <fireonlive> | i think new freenode is better |
| 02:26:13 | <fireonlive> | (jk dont murder me) |
| 03:01:57 | <nicolas17> | why is my laptop fan spinning |
| 03:02:04 | <nicolas17> | oh I left archivebot.com tab open |
| 03:05:36 | <fireonlive> | xP |
| 03:05:40 | <nicolas17> | and oh shit it's midnight, time flew while I was babysitting samsung-grab |
| 03:05:41 | <fireonlive> | it do be like that |
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| 04:42:51 | <fireonlive> | /msg myself call 1 855 LADY FUN :3 |
| 04:42:57 | <fireonlive> | oop |
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| 15:49:09 | <fireonlive> | https://torrentfreak.com/dmca-notices-took-down-20517-github-projects-last-year-240308/ |
| 17:12:55 | <nukke> | http://ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.ubuntu.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ub |
| 17:12:57 | <nukke> | untu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ |
| 17:13:44 | <hexa-> | https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68534703 |
| 17:14:29 | <steering> | Mon@1730.22 < fireonlive> -+rss- Roku Confirms Data Breach of 15,000 Customers: https://www.claimdepot.com/data-breach/roku https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39674041 |
| 17:14:40 | <steering> | no wonder they want people to agree to arbitration suddenly... :P |
| 17:15:24 | <fireonlive> | :P |
| 17:18:25 | <fireonlive> | hexa-: hmmm.... suspicious |
| 17:26:30 | <imer> | nukke: we need to go deeper! |
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| 20:42:57 | <nukke> | RIP https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/dutch-intelligence-and-security-law/ |
| 20:43:14 | <nukke> | time to move my dutch vps (: |
| 20:43:39 | <fireonlive> | :( |
| 20:45:46 | <fireonlive> | >The Netherlands hosts some of the world’s largest internet exchanges. This obliges us to make the best use of these exchanges for our national security. |
| 20:45:53 | <fireonlive> | oh right, i forgot about that rule |
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| 20:47:33 | <nukke> | there is a lot of traffic in front of my house. maybe I should be stopping people and go through their stuff whenever they drive by 🤔 |
| 20:49:15 | <nulldata> | nukke - You have a obligation to - for safety! |
| 20:49:56 | <katia> | nulldata, where are you moving it to though |
| 20:50:07 | <katia> | er nukke * |
| 20:53:04 | <nukke> | The Higherlands |
| 20:53:45 | <nulldata> | The Cloud (TM) |
| 20:53:57 | <nukke> | do I look like I'm made out of money? |
| 20:54:14 | <fireonlive> | don't fall for the aws flytrap |
| 20:54:32 | <joepie91|m> | doubt that moving your VPS will do much |
| 20:54:32 | <nukke> | I feel like I'm just unlucky. I was impacted by OVH's french datacenter fires and lost a vps. now this dutch thing |
| 20:54:38 | <joepie91|m> | given that the tap is at internet exchanges |
| 20:54:47 | <nukke> | I don't trust germany |
| 20:55:23 | <joepie91|m> | (and traffic is very likely to go over a Dutch IX at some point) |
| 20:56:44 | <nukke> | :( don't do this to me |
| 21:00:00 | <nukke> | archiveteam BGP when? |
| 21:02:52 | <katia> | nukke, where are you moving |
| 21:03:08 | <katia> | somewhere with no internet won't pass thru NL |
| 21:03:48 | <nukke> | no clue tbh. I'm too lazy so I probably won't |
| 21:08:57 | <nukke> | maybe you can host my server >:D |
| 21:11:09 | | katia ducks |
| 21:11:32 | <fireonlive> | you can trust me nukke ;) |
| 21:12:06 | <katia> | taponlive |
| 21:12:36 | <nukke> | I'm already leaving you a lot of my drives if I die tomorrow |
| 21:13:00 | <katia> | :O |
| 21:13:28 | <nukke> | keep an eye for any boeing crash news |
| 21:13:59 | <nukke> | ok let me rephrase that cause it sounds like *I'm* doing something. |
| 21:14:11 | <nukke> | my flight is in a boeing tomorrow |
| 21:14:18 | <@JAA> | RIP nukke |
| 21:14:38 | <katia> | RIP nukke |
| 21:15:12 | <nukke> | I already put jaa in my will. he will inherit all my hoarded java code |
| 21:15:35 | <@JAA> | I shall light a nice fire with it. |
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| 21:46:44 | <magmaus3> | https://cohost.org/arborelia/post/4968198-the-software-heritag |
| 21:51:48 | <nicolas17> | "more specifically because they made a fucking immutable blockchain out of it." |
| 21:51:54 | <nicolas17> | uh yes that's literally how git works?? |
| 22:00:40 | <nicolas17> | imagine asking snapshot.debian.org to modify tarballs of old software releases to retroactively change a name in copyright notices... |
| 22:02:06 | <@JAA> | I'd be surprised if that hasn't happened yet. |
| 22:03:28 | <nicolas17> | next they can recall previously-printed books |
| 22:04:24 | <joepie91|m> | it's easy to make light of this but a better question is why the archive apparently did not consider this in their design |
| 22:05:01 | <nicolas17> | joepie91|m: if they store git commit hashes then they're screwed |
| 22:05:25 | <joepie91|m> | oh I don't doubt that their explanation is accurate, to be clear |
| 22:05:47 | <@JAA> | I mean, immutability is a key feature of an archive. |
| 22:05:55 | <joepie91|m> | just that that suggests rather a severe oversight in their archive design |
| 22:06:40 | <joepie91|m> | sure. just like honouring someone's name is a key feature of respectful social interaction |
| 22:06:52 | <joepie91|m> | which means they should have thought ahead of time about how to resolve this tension |
| 22:06:53 | <@JAA> | IA won't dynamically rewrite their name on web pages either. They'd just exclude it, which is worse for everyone. |
| 22:07:15 | <joepie91|m> | like, "that is how archives work" is not actually an automatic justification for anything |
| 22:07:47 | <@JAA> | The interaction and process can definitely be questioned, yeah. |
| 22:07:57 | <nicolas17> | this only could happen on a solo project anyway |
| 22:08:10 | <nicolas17> | try getting your name changed in old linux.git commits :P |
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| 22:26:52 | <fireonlive> | nukke: i shall honour said drives :3 |
| 22:30:54 | <katia> | nukke, can i get your good wifi APs |
| 22:47:50 | <nukke> | ok, I'll leave my read-only drives filled with straight pr0n to fireonlive, and my super reliable and excellent Unifi APs to katia |
| 22:49:16 | <katia> | i hope your flight gets replaced with an Airbus last minute. |
| 22:49:49 | <fireonlive> | str8pr0n? T_T |
| 22:51:08 | <nukke> | lol |
| 22:52:02 | <nukke> | actually I forgot if I asked, but is anyone going to SCALE this weekend? |
| 22:54:11 | <thuban> | i'm like 20% convinced fireonlive is a 13-year-old virgin who doth protest way too much. nobody send him any pron |
| 22:55:00 | <nicolas17> | rude |
| 22:55:24 | <fireonlive> | wat |
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| 23:19:00 | <qwertyasdfuiopghjkl> | nicolas17: I think "printed books" is kind of an inaccurate comparison, since (unless someone invents teleportation), after they've been sold, the seller can't magically append a sticky note with corrections to them, but even if the archive itself can't be edited, I'm guessing some sort of note could be added to the website that has the archive, |
| 23:19:00 | <qwertyasdfuiopghjkl> | mentioning that the info is inaccurate/outdated and linking to a fixed version? (trying to figure out how this could be solved without requiring impossible modifications to the archived copy itself, as the incorrect name obviously needs to somehow be updated, but I don't really know anything about what sort of changes would be both doable from a |
| 23:19:01 | <qwertyasdfuiopghjkl> | technical perspective and considered acceptable by her and others with similar requests.) |
| 23:25:58 | <fireonlive> | there was a mention at the end that some sort of database was made, but that it was inadequate |
| 23:26:02 | <fireonlive> | not sure what that means though |
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