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00:41:17<ctag>dd is definitely disk destroyer, can't convince me otherwise
00:41:58<ctag>I volunteer with a local nonprofit that re-did their website back in 2021, and I have a copy of the old site I'm hoping to host a mirror of
00:42:28<ctag>It's running right now as a VM with the database locked, but I don't feel like that's a great solution, given that the drupal engine thing is super crusty.
00:43:36<ctag>Looking on the wiki, should I use grab-site for this?
01:12:57<Terbium>grab-site should work
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01:28:20<nicolas17>I heard the KDE booth at 37c7 has a Wayland Feedback Collection Bin
01:30:03<fireonlive>is it a trashcan
01:31:18<nicolas17>no
01:31:26<nicolas17>it's a disguised paper shredder
01:31:57<fireonlive>niiice
01:33:47<FireFly>lol
01:36:27<thuban>i spent like an hour the other day concluding that something i absolutely needed to do was essentially impossible under wayland, then realized that the application i wanted to do it with only worked with xwayland anyway :|
01:42:53<thuban>ctag: depends what you're trying to do exactly
01:43:07<thuban>if you want to retain server-side functionality, that's somewhat beyond the scope of web archival tools
01:43:15<thuban>if you just want a static html view, warcs are good and i would make one for safekeeping, but you can't really serve it as a live site--you'd either have to wrap it in a viewer (like replayweb.page) or extract the resources and possibly rewrite some absolute urls (tools like unar do the former but i'm not aware of anything plug-and-play for the latter)
01:44:02<thuban>might be most convenient to do `wget -mpk` and save directly to resources + rewritten links (using grab-site for a separate warc if you want one)
01:44:08<Terbium>that's why i'm still on Xorg on KDE
01:44:09<thuban>this is a -bs topic btw
01:44:40<ctag>Ah, OK I'll move there. Thank you.
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01:49:00<FireFly>what does the bs in -bs expand to anyway
01:50:16<nicolas17>guess >.>
01:50:35<thuban>bible study?
01:50:38<FireFly>bullshit? but it doesn't make sense :p
01:50:41FireFly shrugs
01:51:29<thuban>what's nonsensical about bullshit?
01:51:53<fireonlive>yeah bullshit
01:51:57<FireFly>oki :p
01:52:13<nicolas17>I think in the beginning there was on-topic #archiveteam and off-topic #archiveteam-bs
01:52:13<fireonlive>it was the offtopic channel for #archiveteam before #archiveteam became anounce-only
01:52:34<fireonlive>then we needed a new offtopic channel, and -ot was born to move away from -bs
01:52:41<fireonlive>is how i think it happened anyways :p
01:53:43<FireFly>I see :p
01:53:57<FireFly>that make sense kinda, but explains why it didn't make sense to me
01:54:03<FireFly>so it's basically just hysterical raisins
01:54:09<fireonlive>indeed
01:54:28<pabs>thuban: whats the wayland issue?
01:54:42<pabs>Xorg is abandoned now btw :)
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01:55:20<Terbium>not until the day i die it isn't :P
01:55:25<thuban>pabs: i wanted to send a key event to a specific process
01:55:33<Terbium>*cherishes my precious Xorg*
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01:59:19<nicolas17>be the compositor
01:59:22<nicolas17>and you can do that
01:59:24<nicolas17>:D
02:00:18<nicolas17>something I want to do is draw content on another process's window, *with* that process's consent... Apple does this extensively nowadays
02:00:30<thuban>this would have been under a wlroots-based compositor, so i could have used wlrctl to focus a window with the right name and then type something, but that isn't really the same thing, is it?
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03:07:52<nicolas17>https://bsky.app/profile/qjurecic.bsky.social/post/3khng5ukvw52y loooool
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03:21:10<fireonlive>oh cool bsky has a new logo
03:21:19<fireonlive>anyone wants an invite code i found on the floor lmk
03:21:47<fireonlive>also lol
03:23:02<fireonlive>media kit: https://bsky.app/profile/emily.bsky.team/post/3kh5wsfrg6l2s
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04:45:46<nulldata>https://youtu.be/0K1pITq4mSk - kinda neat, they give Nebula's costs for storage and bandwidth. They currently have 30TB of content ($200/month) and pay around $20,000/month in bandwidth usage. Also, LG apparently removed their TV app due to LGBTQ+ content
04:49:17<fireonlive>o_o
04:49:31<fireonlive>can’t have those fucking gays on our goddamn TV
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05:24:37<fireonlive>xD
05:24:43<fireonlive>and i oop
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07:00:52<that_lurker>+rss- Linux is the only OS to support diagonal PC monitor mode: https://www.tomshardware.com/monitors/linux-is-the-only-os-to-support-diagonal-pc-monitor-mode-dev-champions-the-case-for-22-degree-rotation-computing https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38801549
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13:52:59<nicolas17>that_lurker: I still don't understand why that photo from 2021 is suddenly going viral now
13:57:10<@JAA>Here's where -bs was originally created: https://irclogs.archivete.am/efnet_archiveteam/2012-05-27#l9f1bd711
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16:20:56<nukke>What a way to end 2023 https://www.gentoo.org/news/2023/12/29/Gentoo-binary.html
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22:36:24<nicolas17>https://twitter.com/KeyToAeris/status/1740503289362538964
22:36:24<eggdrop>nitter: https://nitter.net/KeyToAeris/status/1740503289362538964
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23:10:25<@JAA>nukke: Oh boy. I wonder if they keep old versions of the binaries around.
23:10:43<@JAA>(Cf. recent discussions about Debian and Alpine handling that ... very differently.)
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23:33:13<nukke>JAA: yeah, they keep them alongside the old gentoo wiki
23:33:16<nukke>(RIP)
23:37:12<@JAA>lol
23:41:14<@JAA>So where are those binaries?
23:44:41<@JAA>Ah, probably in the 'binpackages' dirs in the regular repos.