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00:15:41<fireonlive>update: did all the things, migrated all the stuff, set up the new sliding-sync service... and no share sheet in Element X either (and a lot less features such as 'you just don't have any of your encrypted message history for now')
00:15:47<fireonlive>:D
00:16:03<fireonlive>ill say nothing more, but that :D is hiding a lot of pain
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04:06:10<fireonlive>https://mkx9delh5a.execute-api.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/uploads/7cd74926e6800e93/image.png
04:06:13<fireonlive>is this accurate
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05:12:46<pabs>https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/freedesktop/freedesktop/-/issues/803
05:14:59<nicolas17>>tricks like local caching
05:15:40<nicolas17>why is "download from docker registry every single time the container is started" so often the default mindset?
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05:28:22<BPCZ>Gotta run the latest version
05:29:36<BPCZ>fireonIive: depends on a bunch of things. Wanting your laptop to be stable and trivially maintained tends to come with age. The next step on that list is buying a mac
05:30:45<nicolas17>BPCZ: that doesn't work for some hackers
05:31:07<nicolas17>I got into the Apple ecosystem
05:31:18<nicolas17>now I maintain pages like https://theapplewiki.com/wiki/Beta_Firmware/Mac/14.x
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05:57:47<fireonlive>i do love macOS…. but i do wonder if fedora on the servers everywhere was a mistake with the release cadence x3 though i guess the newer packages can be nice
05:58:40<fireonlive>i guess full system upgrade on everything twice a year isn’t the end of the world but yeah lol
05:59:20<fireonlive>though i guess i could do it yearly since i think support lasts somewhat longer hmm
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06:08:36<fireonlive>and it coontinues
06:08:43<fireonlive>continues*
06:09:12<fireonlive>This is Important: GN's Goals, Scope, Approach, & Reporting Stances & Policies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot6roLarLHo
06:12:27<fireonlive>'This video will be an entry in our series of long-term / permanent pieces to help explain our objectives and goals, how we operate, why we do what we do, and what our processes are. This will be used as a reference piece for years to come to help new viewers get up to speed on who we are and what we value. You can find links to some of the new
06:12:27<fireonlive>pages below."
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06:28:48<fireonlive>night all, dream of electric sheep
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13:20:18<BPCZ> nicolas17 thanks for doing so
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17:13:27<nulldata>https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/29db9602-3441-4d82-b1ed-1bbb1d8bee23.png
17:24:42<fireonlive>nulldata: yup 😭
17:25:14<BPCZ>I feel attacked
17:26:38<Barto>ONE OF US!
17:27:06<fireonlive>me setting up sliding-scale and also finally postgres for the new element x client to be a giant letdown lmao
17:31:56<Doranwen>LOL
17:33:20<BPCZ>I looked at the recommended deployment docs for mastodon and it’s the truest of shitware that can’t trivially run.
17:34:26<BPCZ>Just stand up your own emails service, s3 interface, database, and reverse proxy to get bad twitter. Their recommended small deployment costs something like $36/month
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18:12:12<fireonlive>how about the new “kbin” everyone is drooling over
18:12:33<fireonlive>its mastodon and lemmy but if they were surgically joined together
18:12:35<fireonlive>apparnetly
18:15:55<BPCZ>How is it this hard to give me a binary I can run that I define a database to, can set local storage or s3, and doesn’t require email setup.
18:16:26<BPCZ>I feel like a lot of these implications suffer from trying to solve instance scaling issues first instead of allowing easy federation
18:44:40<nulldata>Haven't tried self hosting KBin but in my experience with the kbin.social instance is it had some issues with properly federating with Lemmy instances
18:45:34<nulldata>Same with the Fedia instance
18:47:18<nulldata>Also basically no app support yet. Ended up switching to Lemmy.world, then hosting my own private Lemmy instance to get away from all the issues public instances have been having lol
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21:35:41<fireonlive>i wish to go back in time
21:35:46<fireonlive>and prevent matrix from ever being born
21:35:49<fireonlive>-_-
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21:56:23<BPCZ>Beat them for using Python
21:56:46<BPCZ>I still love that they say an alternate server is being worked on while all features land in Python
21:57:02<BPCZ>Terrible engineering practices
21:57:12<fireonlive>lol yeah
21:57:27<fireonlive>the whole thing seems like a giant dumpster fire tbh from org to product
21:58:42<BPCZ>But hey, I can irc from XMPP it’s almost as good as the 90s
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21:59:50<thuban>why not xmpp from irc? :p
22:00:55<fireonlive>i do wonder if the XMPP ecosystem would be better... but that also sounds like pain
22:00:56<fireonlive>:p
22:01:15<BPCZ>XMPP suffers from using xml
22:01:25<fireonlive>barf
22:01:49<fireonlive>how's it on ios/android... and will the push notification situation make me want to leap off a tall building like matrix currently does
22:01:50<fireonlive>lol
22:02:13<BPCZ>That’s Apples fault
22:02:32<fireonlive>is it though
22:02:34<BPCZ>No good way to self host a notification service for yourself
22:02:39<BPCZ>Yeah it is
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22:03:02<nicolas17>in theory, XMPP has the notification stuff solved, in the same way as Matrix
22:03:07<fireonlive>element blows my phone like a <...........> when i'm actively chatting on the laptop to someone
22:03:26<nicolas17>do clients and servers actually support that spec properly? that I don't know
22:03:29<fireonlive>'hey someone sent you a message, as if you aren't literally in the window talking to them right this second, thought you should know'
22:04:12<fireonlive>or like 'you're active on desktop? sure notifications on both places because fuck you'
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22:04:39<nicolas17>fireonlive: it's not an easy problem
22:04:46<nicolas17>this is how Slack decides whether to send a notification https://magicbell.ghost.io/content/images/2020/11/C6ROe0mU0AEmpzz--1-.jpeg
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22:05:27<fireonlive>i know :( i just wish there was like a pinned issue tracking th bugbears
22:05:30<fireonlive>or something
22:06:44<fireonlive>or can we opensource telegram or something
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22:06:45<fireonlive>x3
22:08:33<fireonlive>oh, the GN video from yesterday was pulled: https://x.com/gamersnexus/status/1695703091452969059?s=12
22:09:00<fireonlive>the nice thing is i can complain about matrix all i want because if someone says 'just send a pull request' i can reply with 'they don't merge those'
22:09:03<fireonlive>:p
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22:10:59<fireonlive>02:54:58 PM -+rss- OnlyFans: Who is Leonid Radvinsky, the elusive owner of a porn empire?: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-66615008 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37286363
22:11:08<fireonlive>not sure why the BBC (lol) felt the need to make this an article
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22:33:58<flashfire42|m>The BBC trying to get those SEO clicks fireonlive someone searches BBC onlyfans and they get that article. It’s genius
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22:36:03<nicolas17>I'd be more concerned about what those people are expecting to find with "BBC onlyfans"
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22:41:54<@JAA>Concerned?
22:42:29<nicolas17>are they looking for the OF of some BBC reporter? :P
22:43:25<imer>https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bbc
22:43:56<nicolas17>oh that
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22:57:51<fireonlive>xD
23:01:09<nulldata>https://www.techspot.com/news/99928-ibm-introduces-enterprise-magnetic-tape-drive-holds-50tb.html
23:06:12<@JAA>And still using those bullshit compression numbers. ._.
23:06:25<@JAA>But neat!
23:07:06<nicolas17>"50TB compressed"?
23:07:08<@JAA>I'm assuming the cartridges are massive compared to LTO.
23:07:18<@JAA>No, 'Compressing data raises capacity to 150TB'
23:07:33<nicolas17>oh, good, so at least the advertised number is the real one
23:07:33<@JAA>Because they pull a 3:1 compression ratio out of their rear.
23:08:46<fireonlive>assuming i’m compressing a giant file with the phrase “i hate my life” how many PiB can i fit on this tape
23:10:30<@JAA>> Warranty One year
23:10:31<@JAA>lol
23:10:53<@JAA>On the tape drive, according to https://www.ibm.com/products/ts1170
23:11:58<nicolas17>how much does the drive cost?
23:12:39<@JAA>Haven't found anything yet beyond
23:12:42<@JAA>> For additional information and current prices, contact your local IBM representative or IBM Business Partner.
23:12:56<nicolas17>ah, so it's priced at "if you have to ask you can't afford it"
23:13:14<@JAA>I mean, it's E N T E R P R I S E hardware.
23:13:45<nicolas17>did you see those masssssive SSDs whose warranty didn't last enough to even fill them?
23:14:03<@JAA>lol
23:14:26<@JAA>There was the opposite few years ago, where you couldn't physically wear out the flash before the warranty would expire.
23:14:43<@JAA>At 5 years of warranty, too.
23:14:46<nicolas17>that sounds like the same
23:14:58<@JAA>Nimbus ExaDrive
23:15:53<@JAA>> Unlimited write endurance for 5 years
23:16:09<nicolas17>I don't understand the point of those super-large drives; they have bad $/GB, so what is the benefit vs multiple disks?
23:16:19<fireonlive>'how much do you value your kidneys'
23:16:22<@JAA>Space savings, I guess.
23:16:52<nicolas17>using multiple disks is faster, gives you redundancy, costs less, ???
23:17:42<@JAA>But less usable disk space for a given physical space.
23:17:57<@JAA>Imagine filling a rack with 90-drive 4U units full of these vs anything else.
23:20:16<nicolas17>I'd be concerned about the amount of data lost when that one rack bursts into flames :P
23:20:33<fireonlive>more backups!
23:20:42<fireonlive>if only we had infinite money
23:22:02<@JAA>90 PB in a single rack (with 2U to spare) is pretty amazing though.
23:22:24<fireonlive>yes please
23:22:41<@JAA>But yeah, one of those drives cost $40k a couple years ago, so...
23:23:04<@JAA>Anyone got some $36M lying around?
23:28:58<fireonlive>i really need to cozy up to bezos
23:29:01<fireonlive>:(
23:29:31<@JAA>Ok yeah, those IBM cartridges are some chonkers.
23:30:58<@JAA>Can't find exact dimensions, but this is the drive: https://www.ibm.com/content/dam/connectedassets-adobe-cms/worldwide-content/creative-assets/s-migr/ul/g/e1/ab/leadspace-ts1170.component.xl-retina.ts=1692368014577.png/content/adobe-cms/us/en/products/ts1170/jcr:content/root/leadspace_container/leadspace
23:31:13<@JAA>And the drive dimensions are: 93 mm H x 186 mm W x 467 mm D
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23:31:49<@JAA>So the cartridges look to be something like 4 cm high and 15 cm wide.
23:32:22<@JAA>LTO is a bit over 2 cm high and 10 cm wide...
23:32:29<@JAA>No wonder they can fit 50 TB in there.
23:54:00<fireonlive>they cheated!
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