00:00:03<@arkiver>thanks nulldata
00:00:14<@arkiver>and yes unfortunately true
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00:05:06<fireonlive>yee, thanks all of -core :)
00:14:36<fireonlive>https://twitter.com/projectpayphone/status/1692678966497189999
00:14:36<eggdrop>nitter: https://nitter.net/projectpayphone/status/1692678966497189999
00:19:10<nulldata>Busy signal
00:20:52<nulldata>https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/17/23836440/nft-creator-royalty-fees-are-dead-opensea-optional - the great scam continues lol
00:21:32<fireonlive>damn
00:22:45<nicolas17>so that wasn't part of the smart contract code?
00:22:49<nicolas17>so much for decentralization...
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00:39:05<nulldata>IF NFTS Were Honest https://youtube.com/watch?v=sG_v4bb2e4k
00:39:36<nstrom|m>wow, that's a blast from the past. I remember the payphone project website from 1995
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00:54:19<nicolas17>reddit down?
00:55:18<fireonlive>nicolas17: seems ok here
00:55:38<nicolas17>https://old.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/15tv6un/i_own_the_only_apple_product_that_was_never_sold/
00:55:46<nicolas17>"we took too long to make this page for you"
00:56:38<fireonlive>hm just loaded for me
00:56:46<fireonlive>both logged in and logged out
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01:06:24<qwertyasdfuiopghjkl>loads a bit slower than usual but works for me
01:08:14<nicolas17>works from private window
01:08:31<nicolas17>I guess my login session is stored in a dead server
01:11:13<fireonlive>lucky server
01:12:22<nulldata>https://twitter.com/TaranVH/status/1692923529459900506
01:12:22<eggdrop>nitter: https://nitter.net/TaranVH/status/1692923529459900506
01:16:00<fireonlive>P H P, it's dynamite
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01:32:09<fireonlive><tttb> Why did the programmer quit his job?
01:32:09<fireonlive><tttb> because he didn't get arrays
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01:37:44<nulldata>https://gfycat.com/contentwildarmyworm-talesfromtechsupport-pathfinder-rpg
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01:52:18<fireonlive>:3
01:54:54<fireonlive>nulldata: leaguing those rockets eh?
02:02:58<HP_Archivist>Who maintains the new Dashboard 3.0 ? http://archivebot.com/3?showNicks1 I have a request - if it's possible, and they do not mind - for a dark background instead of bright white.
02:03:16<nulldata>Why are you snooping on me?
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02:19:49<fireonlive>:o
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02:26:01<thuban>HP_Archivist: ivan, mostly. why not put in a pr? https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/ArchiveBot/tree/master/dashboard
02:26:18<fireonlive>HP_Archivist: looks like chfoo made it in 2015, and Sanqui added some features to it in 2017? https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/ArchiveBot/commits/b22627e4cd94784d970a2555e071840536af71e1/dashboard/dashboard3.html
02:26:42<thuban>(there's a dark.css in the styles folder, but it's a user style for the old dashboard)
02:28:20<HP_Archivist>I had assumed that JAA maintained it for some reason. Interesting
02:28:35<HP_Archivist>I'm actually not active on GH
02:30:41<thuban>i stand corrected, ivan has been working on the 'old' dashboard
02:33:46<fireonlive>oh good i wasn't wrong for once
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03:19:56<fireonlive><kiska> what does dj khaled even do
03:19:56<fireonlive><venuism> makes mirc
03:19:59<fireonlive>that you, kiska? lol
03:21:33<kiska>Huh?
03:25:38<fireonlive>quite from the (still dead) bash.org lol
03:25:46<kiska>Probably not me
03:25:47<fireonlive>s/quite/quote/
03:25:48<fireonlive>ah ok
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04:05:33<DogsRNice>how do you even manage to mess an api up this badly https://next.backpack.tf/almanac/steam-api-health
04:05:56<DogsRNice>apparently its been like this for years
04:07:01<DogsRNice>naturally people are using a script to retry hundreds of times until it works so this site will update their tf2 inventory, that probably doesnt help the api
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04:42:11<fireonlive>does everyone just use discord on DND because they cbf to configure notifications?
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05:03:07<Doranwen>fireonlive: cbf?
05:03:10<Doranwen>Oh, nvm
05:03:17<Doranwen>Figured out what you meant
05:03:24<Doranwen>I mute most servers all the time, lol
05:03:24<fireonlive>šŸ˜…
05:03:39<fireonlive>yeah me too... the attention demand is nut
05:03:39<Doranwen>A couple I mute some channels but not all
05:03:41<fireonlive>s
05:03:54<fireonlive>i also flip off the 'show the red badge' option in discord settings
05:03:57<Doranwen>And a couple more I do leave always on, but they don't have much traffic, and I use it on desktop so I don't get any audio stuff
05:04:20<Doranwen>I like the red badge thing, that lets me know when I've got a message to read
05:04:25<Doranwen>I just tell myself I don't have to read them all right away
05:04:32<Doranwen>And I read really fast so catching up isn't hard.
05:04:52<fireonlive>ah :)
05:04:58<fireonlive>i guess i need to manage my mutes better
05:05:11<Doranwen>Yeah, any channel I'm never going to be that into, I just mute it.
05:05:22<Doranwen>I did that for a few on the FoIA one.
05:06:09<Doranwen>Like, I'm not a programmer. I can manage a basic bash script. That's it. All the programming goes over my head. So I just muted that channel. And I don't do video digitizing either, so I muted that one.
05:06:43<fireonlive>ah ye
05:06:50<Doranwen>And I muted welcome and legal because I don't care about all the welcoming, and I'm not interested in reading lots of lawsuit-related chatter.
05:07:22<fireonlive>i've sent a few friend requests from there, some of them ignored :p
05:07:36<Doranwen>Heh
05:07:50<BPCZ>Doranwen: modern era software ā€œengineersā€ are some of the most hilarious high horse riders
05:07:51<fireonlive>but yeah welcome channels are... interesting in general. at least there's no "$x left the server" channel
05:08:49<BPCZ>ā€œShell scripts aren’t real programmingā€ until you show them the 478 ksh scripts that implant a distributed database with 8 c backend calls
05:08:58<Doranwen>BPCZ: Lol, you're saying they think they know more than they do, or that they're just annoying on the positions they take on other things? Or what?
05:09:38<BPCZ>Doranwen: think they know more than they do and call anything they don’t understand useless
05:09:53Doranwen would be a programmer if she had taken the time to work at it and learn earlier. These days she has poured her energy and time into creating educational curricula and processing the massive pile of Yahoo Groups data. Priorities...
05:09:59<Doranwen>Gotcha.
05:10:36<BPCZ>It’s trivial to become a dev, you just rarely jump from nothing to major company
05:11:33Doranwen nods
05:12:15<BPCZ>One of my friends is a ā€œdevā€ good guy, but he works on an internal Java tool used by about 30 people inside SAP making 90k in California. There’s a dev job social hierarchy where he’s considered trash for not working on a rust web scale system
05:13:11<Doranwen>As frustrating as it is sometimes to know so little, I at least know I know almost nothing, lol, and accept I'm a complete n00b next to most of you all here. :) I figure I may learn a few things over time, and at least have been able to help with the occasional project by searching the YG links for links needed for projects like Mediafire and Imgur.
05:13:47<Doranwen>Better to know what I don't know than to get an overinflated sense of self.
05:14:37<BPCZ>There’s also a specific kind of angry unloved person that is a dev who gets very angry about the world and actively posts about how their entire goal in life is putting as many people out of work as possible
05:14:49<Doranwen>And then I can at least be proud of the tiny victories I do accomplish, like the day I figured out how to get the scripts I was working on to properly sort all the fics downloaded by the fic archiving tools I've been using.
05:15:08<BPCZ>Love them, not terrible people at all actively harming society and telling capital they can downskill every job including devs
05:15:23<Doranwen>Lovely :P
05:20:19<BPCZ>Back to grinding out the worlds most pathetic benchmark suite, no idea if I can hit 10,000 file creates a second or 15,000,000.
05:21:07<BPCZ>I need to hit 10,000,000 but no idea if that’s even possible with the 70 servers I have
05:23:07<Doranwen>Have fun, lol.
05:23:25<Doranwen>I need to get back to either the curricula or the YG. Probably both, alternating. Neither is super exciting in long stretches.
05:25:32<Doranwen>Though the occasional odd language I find a group in does make things interesting, gives me something to share on Discord with the volunteers there.
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05:36:53<fireonlive>https://darkrenaissance.github.io/darkfi/index.html "DarkFi is a new Layer 1 blockchain, designed with anonymity at the forefront. It offers flexible private primitives that can be wielded to create any kind of application. DarkFi aims to make anonymous engineering highly accessible to developers."
05:37:05<fireonlive>https://darkrenaissance.github.io/darkfi/misc/ircd/ircd.html "In DarkFi, we organize our communication using resilient and censorship-resistant infrastructure. For chatting, ircd is a peer-to-peer implementation of an IRC server in which any user can participate anonymously using any IRC frontend and by running the IRC daemon. ircd uses the DarkFi
05:37:05<fireonlive>P2P engine to synchronize chats between hosts."
05:37:09<fireonlive>enjoy the show
05:40:46<BPCZ>Jesus I hate this, there’s a magic rpc you have to send to a port and that’s how you dump any useful data out of this system. The software engineers on it got very pissed off when I showed them the dashboard of metrics and real time tracing I pull out of their baby
05:41:53<BPCZ>Probably because their entire stupid product is based on some shit webui that pulls data every minute+ into a database in normal installs
05:43:22<BPCZ>No please don’t wrap our call stack with the NATS agent we ship, don’t dedicate a 25gbps port to collecting metrics like that and tell our management they’ll make us implant it
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05:46:15<BPCZ>ed enough for the mess of sidecars added to impact it
06:17:28<BPCZ>Ah bless, this cursed backend is 4 sas SSDs in a trenchcoat. Why was I given this as a testing ground the damn devices have a latency of like 3ms and can maybe squeeze out 30,000 4k iops no wonder this code looks like it’s running like shit.
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13:00:02<@JAA>HP-Archivist: This is the off-topic channel.
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13:05:58<kpcyrd>archive.is captcha has been broken for me for a few days now šŸ’”
13:13:52<@JAA>Worked fine for me yesterday or the day before.
13:35:46<@JAA>Rust drama: https://github.com/serde-rs/serde/issues/2538
13:36:25<@JAA>Oh, hi kpcyrd :-)
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13:47:47<kpcyrd>:3
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13:52:55<kpcyrd>I posted about reproducible builds in the serde thread and attempted to mimic the original build environment (didn't work unfortunately)
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21:07:48<fireonlive>**** the site is still offline **** but here's bash.org's full corpus (or should be) as .txt files, for those who want it: https://archive.org/details/bash.org.txt
21:08:12<fireonlive>(21,096 files, the latest number archive.org had saved)
21:14:28<BPCZ>fireonIive: looks dead to me
21:18:37<fireonlive>uhh
21:18:39<fireonlive>"Thank you for your interest in adding files to the Internet Archive. Unfortunately, one or more of the files you uploaded into item bash.org.txt appear to be malware, and access to the item on archive.org has been blocked. You can get more details about the malware file(s) here:"
21:18:45<fireonlive>https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/25c786b6c57889eebac4132a06ae9aa4a6c2dd19228e777cee4a053c3af87677/detection/f-25c786b6c57889eebac4132a06ae9aa4a6c2dd19228e777cee4a053c3af87677-1692565537
21:18:52<fireonlive>apparently a bunch of text files are malware
21:18:53<fireonlive>lol
21:19:30<fireonlive>i tried :D
21:21:15<fireonlive>wonder what file triggered it
21:25:28<fireonlive>i have emailed the info archive.org people
21:25:40<fireonlive>will repost my message when/if it's undarkened lol
21:27:44<nicolas17>did someone post the EICAR test in a quote?
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21:32:01<fireonlive>hmm maybe lol
21:32:11<fireonlive>it seems it was ā€œtrojan.botjetā€
21:33:01<fireonlive>botget *
21:33:59<fireonlive>i do remember seeing at least one quote with someone downloading some warez or something lol
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21:46:14<nulldata>https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/12cca123-6d41-4513-8484-33c8fb1e0b0b.jpeg
21:48:02<thuban>nulldata: https://nitter.net/sigma_da_enigma/status/1533096179093098496#m
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22:08:55<fireonlive>I wonder when they moved that out
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22:23:13<fireonlive>https://mkx9delh5a.execute-api.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/uploads/e98a75a117083ae7/bash.org.txt.tar.gz
22:23:15<fireonlive>for the impatent
22:23:21<fireonlive>but jesus god don't make me homeless
22:23:34<fireonlive>i guess it's only 2.8MB tho
22:23:52<@JAA>Put it on anonfiles.co... oh, wait.
22:27:15<fireonlive>rip
22:27:37<nulldata>How about Megaupload?
22:27:42<fireonlive>xD
22:29:02<@JAA>RapidShare?
22:30:01<fireonlive>zippyshare?
22:31:27<fireonlive>cc nicolas17 if you wanted it
22:31:48<nulldata>There's a new upload site operating under the rapidshare name
22:32:29<fireonlive>i like how the loungeā„¢'s preview system just downloaded the full file
22:32:42<fireonlive>to do absolutely nothing with it, because it can't handle that
22:32:58<nulldata>There's always LimeWire
22:33:08<fireonlive>ooh, or if you're a cool kid, FrostWire
22:34:00<nulldata>(though why use S3 when R2 and Backblaze are cheaper)
22:34:16<fireonlive>it's a front to a EC2 instance
22:34:29<fireonlive>running the lounge
22:34:42<fireonlive>but yeah, ideally it would be elsewhere haha
22:35:04<fireonlive>hmmm... ah, nah. TL has a file size limit for previews. was just pondering what would happen if I dumped a 10GB testfile link here lol
22:35:08<nulldata>Oh lol - still isn't EC2 more expensive than almost any other $option? lol
22:35:26<fireonlive>12m free compute credits :D
22:36:32<fireonlive>i might just set up a `rclone mount` to somewhere and use the bucket url as a front instead (though I lose any control over limiting) but perhaps in the future
22:37:07<fireonlive>hmm rclone mount → internet archive? šŸ¤”
22:37:14<fireonlive>i have a feeling i'd be talked ot
22:37:17<fireonlive>to* :p
22:37:51<DigitalDragons>upload to bucket -> SPN -> delete -> web.archive.org link
22:37:58<fireonlive>oooooh
22:38:01<fireonlive>>:D
22:38:04<nulldata>Jason Scott will find you
22:38:13<fireonlive>xD
22:38:26<fireonlive>chained up in his 'you did the IA wrong' basement
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22:45:17<DigitalDragons>i just sit a GCP bucket behind CF, it works well enough
22:45:47<fireonlive>i should really get a domain somehow
22:46:33<DigitalDragons>https://irc.digitaldragon.dev/uploads/801f30dc7f6cf7e5/IMG_7959.jpeg
22:47:14<fireonlive>ntb ntb
22:47:49<DigitalDragons>.com is cheaper
23:13:06<nulldata>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAd53cd8R9I - let's see how many cars get stuck
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