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00:26:54<fireonlive>you piss guzzling piece of shit
00:26:59<fireonlive>oh
00:27:06<fireonlive>i guess my client works now
00:27:18<fireonlive> https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/17/microsoft-lost-keys-government-hacked/ here’s what i meant to post
00:31:43<flashfire42>lol
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00:41:23<@JAA>Yup. The last section in https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/07/microsoft-takes-pains-to-obscure-role-in-0-days-that-caused-email-breach/ is also great.
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02:20:51<jasons>at some point in my life, now that i have "TheLounge" set up
02:20:51<jasons>Imma catch up
02:20:51<jasons>in the meantime for those who want a good laugh............ https://youtu.be/lzxVyO6cpos
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03:03:05<nulldata>The NUC is getting a reprieve - ASUS is planning to take over Intel's NUC line. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/news/intel-nuc-systems-agreement.html
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03:24:09<fireonlive>oooh
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04:53:24<fireonlive>Sweden Sans https://identity.sweden.se/en/design-elements/typography
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05:42:08<flashfire42|m>Ok but does anyone have any idea why Grindr is hosted on half a potato
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06:07:34<BPCZ>Because about half their revenue goes to settling sexual harassment/assault cases in their West Hollywood offices
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06:43:25<fireonlive>learn something new about people every day
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17:21:12<fireonlive>10:15:15 AM <+rss> Web Environment Integrity Explainer: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/blob/main/explainer.md https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36785516
17:21:39<fireonlive>“ Allow web servers to evaluate the authenticity of the device and honest representation of the software stack and the traffic from the device.”
17:23:31<fireonlive>have a look at example use cases lol
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18:05:00<yano>https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2023/07/19/9
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18:29:10<fireonlive>yano: oh damn
18:29:25<fireonlive>i guess if you want an OpenSSH RCE that's a good place for it
18:29:45<fireonlive>s/want/must have/
18:55:03<fireonlive>DreamBerd: the perfect programming language
18:55:04<fireonlive>https://github.com/TodePond/DreamBerd
18:59:49<@rewby>fireonlive: The more I read the more I realize this is a meme
19:01:27<fireonlive>😁
19:03:02<fireonlive>https://github.com/TodePond/DreamBerd#classes
19:03:34<@rewby>https://github.com/TodePond/DreamBerd/blob/main/wallpaper_dont_upload.png
19:04:14<fireonlive>lmao
19:08:26<fireonlive>https://github.com/TodePond/DreamBerd#copilot
19:09:10<fireonlive>also, ownership
19:17:00<imer>that was an enjoyable read :D
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19:29:17<fireonlive>^_^
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20:07:49<that_lurker>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlATrPfoL84
20:07:54<that_lurker> IANA Root Zone DNSSEC KSK ceremony 50 happening live now
20:08:11<fireonlive>let's see a great show, for the pointlessness of DNSSEC :p
20:08:22<fireonlive>nice it's live streamed though
20:09:12<fireonlive>i think i saw one long ago
20:09:15<fireonlive>but not for a while
20:10:01<fireonlive>oh they're shielding the camera, here's where they're compromising the root
20:10:04<fireonlive>:3
20:10:58<that_lurker>yeah this is a wierd process. The materials are and will be on https://www.iana.org/dnssec/ceremonies/50
20:11:20<that_lurker>I like to have this as background noise from time to time
20:13:14<fireonlive>:)
20:13:40<fireonlive>have they verified that flashlight is compliant
20:15:24<fireonlive>the neat thing is i guess it's kinda what a root CA KSK is like?
20:15:43<fireonlive>or sub ca etc
20:17:00<fireonlive>oh they're using a different OS now too eh
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20:37:12<nicolas17>I "reported a bug" in the process once lol
20:38:36<nicolas17>there was a step where they wrote the new keys to a flash drive, then checked the sha256 to ensure it was written correctly
20:39:27<nicolas17>I pointed out that's just reading from the filesystem cache, if the flash drive didn't write the files correctly it wouldn't be detected this way
20:40:03<nicolas17>no big deal since they make like 4 different copies, if in the next ceremony they find a flash drive is corrupted, they use a different one
20:40:15<nicolas17>but it defeats the point of verifying the hash in the first place
20:46:40<thuban>did they respond?
20:48:03<fireonlive>oh interesting
20:49:59<nicolas17>like a year later, but yes
20:50:01<nicolas17>"changes regarding verifying the HSMFD copy hash "unmount and re-mount" have been implemented in the new v1.0.0 of COEN"
20:56:14<thuban>nice!
21:07:57<fireonlive>=]
21:08:43<@JAA>:-)
21:09:02<@JAA>I want to see an actual implementation of DreamBerd.
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21:38:05<@JAA>Wonderful read, but I did spot one thing that could actually be useful: floats for array insertion.
21:45:19<nulldata>https://teddit.hostux.net/r/modnews/comments/1541p7x/lets_talk_about_it_more_ways_to_connect_live_with/
21:45:29<nulldata>Well that went well! :P
21:46:44<nulldata>"So, we’ve all had a... time on Reddit lately. And I’m here to recognize it, acknowledge that our relationship has been tested"
21:47:28<nulldata>Tested? More like thrown into an incinerator.
21:49:38<@JAA>It's quite impressive how they keep finding ways to fuck up even more.
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21:59:23<fireonlive>>mod roadshows
22:02:55<joepie91|m>there's this lesson that a lot of tech people (mainly dudes) often have difficulty learning: "if near everybody disagrees with you, and you cannot explain in excruciating and accurate detail to someone why that is, then you need to take a step back and listen"
22:03:03<joepie91|m>and sometimes those dudes become tech CEOs and then you get this
22:03:58<joepie91|m>the majority isn't always right but you damn better have a good explanation of why they're not
22:04:00<nulldata>"I'm sorry baby it made you mad that I kept your valuables for myself, threw out your wheelchair, publicly called you names, and accused you of abuse. See I was just testing our relationship! Please come back home and keep doing free work for me - but I still won't let you use your wheelchair."
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