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05:32:51<fireonlive>10:32:43 PM *** šŸ”„: Erroneous Nickname
05:32:52<fireonlive>smh
05:33:00<fireonlive>what year is it
05:46:01<fireonlive>is there something one would recommend for one's 'personal archiving' of telegram channels/groups?
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13:41:55<hexa->fireonlive: a year in which moderators still can't easily type emojis on their keyboard
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14:11:52<kiska>Whoops it seems like I didn't have retry enabled, so node just crashed on 500 error for influxdb
14:11:53<kiska>Oh well :D
14:12:07<kiska>I'll just wrap node in a while true statement :D
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14:47:36<fireonlive>hexa-: fair :P
14:49:10<@JAA>TIL this atrocity exists: https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4228429/Emoji_Keyboard-top.0.jpg
14:51:03<hexa->emoji+2 :D ok
14:51:11<hexa->now how about the unicode space in my name?
14:51:11<spirit>🄹
14:51:57<@JAA>I can haz a zalgo nick?
14:53:42<hexa->no.
14:54:22<@JAA>:-(
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15:07:04<@JAA>One for the German speakers here:
15:07:06<@JAA>> ALDI SUISSE hat das kantonale Laboratorium St. Gallen sowie das Bundesamt für Lebensmittelsicherheit und Veterinärwesen BLV darüber informiert, dass in Natur Aktiv Bio Mandelmus, Cashewmus und Erdnussbutter Erdnüsse, Cashewnüsse und/oder Mandeln nachgewiesen wurden.
15:07:11<@JAA>:-)
15:09:29<fireonlive>ok we will get every op and oper one of those emoji keyboards :3
15:10:30<@JAA>fireonlive: They're no longer available, fortunately.
15:10:41<fireonlive>turns out we also can’t have zalgo channels
15:10:54<hexa->wow, aldi
15:11:01<hexa->that's like fish filet at mcdonalds, no?
15:11:04<@JAA>They were launched in 2015 and apparently went about as well as the Starship launch.
15:11:12<fireonlive>https://youtu.be/3AtBE9BOvvk
15:11:17<fireonlive>we’ll have to do a tom scott
15:11:33<hexa->:o
15:12:19<@JAA>hexa-: Or Subway's tuna sandwich, yeah.
15:12:37<@JAA>Well, obviously not, but funny headline nonetheless.
15:13:28<@JAA>Here's the full thing: https://www.admin.ch/gov/de/start/dokumentation/medienmitteilungen.msg-id-96009.html
15:15:25<fireonlive>at least i’ll always have #šŸ”„ :3
15:15:39<fireonlive>the emoji channel opers hate!
15:15:43<fireonlive>:D
15:16:15<hexa->we do have #(╯°▔°)╯︵┻━┻ and #ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ as well as #☃
15:16:25<imer>So, they just left out on the generic "may contain other nuts" label? lol
15:16:31<imer>is a silly headline tho
15:16:54<fireonlive>hexa-: oooh
15:17:13<@JAA>imer: Yup, the almond butter may contain traces of peanuts and cashews etc.
15:17:35<imer>thats an odd mistake to make, but fair enough
15:18:48<@JAA>#ā€ exists now for those who like Unicode space. (That's # + U+200D ZERO WIDTH JOINER.)
15:19:21<imer>thanks, i hate it
15:19:21<@JAA># (just #) has existed for some time.
15:19:59<fireonlive>amazing
15:20:57<fireonlive>i tried to make a channel with spaces as allowed by solanum but charybdis here didn’t quite like it
15:21:22<fireonlive>it was a very basic try but hmm maybe there’s another character it would like
15:21:29<@JAA>Hah, #ā€ (ZWJ) can even be registered. Plain # can't. :-P
15:21:32<fireonlive>(non breaking space was attempted)
15:21:37<fireonlive>haha
15:21:44<hexa->:)
15:25:08<@JAA>#zwj now exists and forwards you to #ā€ to make it easier to join. :-P
15:25:15<fireonlive>:3
15:25:40<hexa->:D
15:26:07<fireonlive>i wish atheme let you mlock +f (or otherwise retain/remember that as the ircd does cooperate there)
15:26:16<fireonlive>and for that matter +I
15:26:27<@JAA>Yeah :-|
15:27:26<hexa->and $g: for +I
15:27:30<hexa->*sigh*
15:27:48<hexa->or $g in general
15:28:45<fireonlive>ooh i’d love to be able to +I a group
15:29:07<@JAA>Same
15:29:10<fireonlive>what are groups for if not right!
15:29:12<fireonlive>:3
15:29:50<@JAA>And groups as members of groups! (Possible with standard Atheme but hackint's is modified.)
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15:31:36<fireonlive>i did see a dirty in hackint’s version string somewhere ;)
15:31:45<fireonlive>dirty bois
15:31:51<fireonlive>:3
15:34:29<fireonlive>though, if your atheme isn’t dirty and your kernel isn’t tainted are you really having fun?
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15:38:57<fireonlive>JAA: groups all the way down :D
15:39:51<hexa->JAA: if maniactwister doesn't continue maintaing it and it conflicts on update I might drop it
15:40:03<hexa->at least if atheme has worthwhile groupserv features
15:40:45<@JAA>hexa-: Speaking of update, how's that NixOS/Solanum migration going? :-)
15:40:58<hexa->I'm so very tired
15:41:28<hexa->the repo is out in the open, so you can browse *all* the progress
15:42:24<@JAA>Last commit in August, right...
15:47:29<fireonlive>oh is hackint’s atheme open? i am curious what they changed lol
15:48:03<@JAA>(Just to be clear, I know how this stuff goes and am not blaming anyone for not spending time on it etc.)
15:48:51<fireonlive>yee
15:51:50<fireonlive>(even like a general ā€œoperserv exclusively uses rainbow text in its notices to opersā€ would be neat to know :p)
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15:54:00<@JAA>The patch I'm aware of is that you can't set FLAGS via GroupServ if the target isn't already in the group (by using JOIN).
15:54:29<fireonlive>ahhh
15:54:34<fireonlive>I was wondering why I couldn’t do that
15:54:36<@JAA>Which exists because it prevents forcing someone into being a member of a group.
15:54:52<fireonlive>I thought it was just because I wasn’t an oper lol
15:54:54<@JAA>But since groups can't JOIN, it breaks group membership.
15:55:07<fireonlive>makes sense
15:56:14<fireonlive>I guess that was a problem at some point..
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18:38:49<fireonlive>https://pyramid.chat/ (from MSCHF).... interesting thing
18:39:00<fireonlive>already over 100 members have paid them $8 for what amounts to a referral link
18:39:17<fireonlive>(and two people have successfully gotten one referral)
18:39:26<fireonlive>make that 3
18:41:44<fireonlive>https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/29kgM/pyrc.png
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21:43:13<fireonlive>Red Hat’s commitment to open source: A response to the git.centos.org changes: https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hats-commitment-open-source-response-gitcentosorg-changes
21:43:17<fireonlive>>I spent a lot of time walking this weekend thinking about the reaction from our industry to my last blog post. We’ve been called evil; I was called an IBM exec who was installed to turn Red Hat closed source — and that’s only the ā€œniceā€ stuff. So let’s clear things up.
21:44:10<@JAA>The thing they cleared up: yes, they do indeed want to kill those other distros.
21:45:16<fireonlive>ah great
21:45:24<fireonlive>🧹
21:47:11<fireonlive>hm fedora/centos will exist since that's just redhat in a wig ofc, but rocky and all the others are bullet to the brain
21:47:14<fireonlive>fun times
21:47:26<Barto>fireonlive: we talked about it on #codearchiver. Sounds like a silly cash grab
21:47:29<fireonlive>well i mean the former two aren't RHEL
21:47:44<fireonlive>ah! thanks i'll read the scrollback
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