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00:11:37<nirv>omg i think it's finally done. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/197420215363960832/950546248899895326/unknown.png
00:11:40<nirv>sweet christ
00:14:12<Niklink>huzzah
00:14:40<Doranwen>congratulations! I've been watching your geocities saga with much sympathy, lol
00:15:24<nirv>:D
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01:23:23<Jake>woo!
01:23:37<Jake>I woke up to 700 messages here and wondered what website was going down
01:28:00<@JAA>It's -ot, so it'd be irrelevant. :-P
01:31:08<Jake>heh, fair. sometimes it moves over here.
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02:51:12<pabs>a thread of people lamenting the loss of userfriendly.org https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30591269
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06:09:39<pabs>"Tell HN: All .fj domains have gone offline" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30596404
06:10:28<Jake>The test websites listed seem to function fine.
06:10:52<Jake>(if not a little slow)
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06:13:03<pabs>not here, the domains don't resolve
06:13:10pabs fires up dnsgraph
06:14:45<pabs>dnsgraph says timeout contacting ns1.fj/ns2.fjq
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06:20:30<Jake>https://jakel.rocks/up/b3875bf0d40df732/image.png
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07:01:54<pabs>Jake: might be worth archiving .fj if their top-level DNS servers are unreliable?
07:02:40<pabs>from the HN thread "The Fiji DNS servers are unreachable, but you can get as far as a router at the University of the South Pacific. So the problem is local to there."
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12:11:26<appledash>nirv: I'm extracting the geocities archive with 0 issues and it didn't require anything weird or special
12:16:53<h3ndr1k>Regarding FJ TLD: https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2022-March/021593.html
12:16:53<h3ndr1k>"Entire TLD down since the DS goes to an unexisting key"
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14:19:49<nirv>appledash, so you didn't bluescreen while extracting them because you were interested in checking out Microsoft Encarta on another VM?
14:20:09<nirv>appledash, so you didn't first download the torrent in windows NOT KNOWING THAT THE FILE NAMES WERE CASE SENSITIVE?
14:20:26<nirv>appledash, so you didn't RUN OUT OF HARD DRIVE SPACE NOT KNOWING IT WAS DOUBLE ARCHIVED?
14:20:32<nirv>etc etc etc
14:21:13<nirv>appledash, so you instinctively knew that torrents are unreliable crap and therefore you double verified the downloaded rars in your torrent client?
14:23:28<russss>pabs: it's a DNSSEC fuckup, I believe some of their servers are still working https://dnsviz.net/d/fj/dnssec/
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14:50:35<appledash>The first 2 sound like "you" problems, the 3rd one - I just happened to have about 4TB of space free and I like to keep a buffer... The 3rd one, my client literally said "corrupt piece, please verify" :p
14:51:10<nirv>appledash, how was I to know that an archive was going to have case sensitive file names? something I have never come across since being online since 1995
14:51:52<nirv>and yes, the first one is a ME problem. I actually use my computer. I'm not a robot. I'm a human. And I actually like to do interesting things. I didn't expect virtualbox to take a dump though, and it really screwed me over.
14:53:40<nirv>you have to factor in that I'm of the human. I'm not sure if you're familiar dude. you guys might be Einstein clones, but you have to consider how many people don't ever download archives that large -- and it's most humans.
14:54:04<appledash>I dunno, generally when I'm doing a long operation on my computer that I know will suck if I have to restart it, I just get a cup of coffee and go for a walk around the block or something
14:54:10<nirv>you give the average PC user the task of properly doing this and I bet most of them couldn't
14:54:19<appledash>I am definitely nowhere near an Einstein clone, I'm actually pretty dumb, but I just have experience
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14:55:14<nirv>I tried extracting the files using a graphical interface and it blew up on me. it basically has to be done in terminal, and if you don't know terminal, you won't even find an answer CLOSE to what you need to do the job on forums. at least the dozens I came across
14:56:03<nirv>that task is really out of reach for the average user dude. I'm not trying to be vituperative. It's just inaccessible to the average hillbilly butterhog like me.
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14:57:02<appledash>You need to get good at gluing things together, I think - "you" meaning anyone who regularly does stuff like this
14:57:35<nirv>so I'm feeling pretty nuts now. I want to export both the extracted geocities collection AND a VM disk with the unextracted torrent files, for extraction or seeding. how nuts is that? :D
14:57:37<appledash>It's been probably 5 years since I've done something like this and I just thought: "Alright, how do I extract an archive? - great, now I've got like 1000 of them. How do I run the same command for 1000 different files without doing it by hand?" and then glued them together
14:57:52<nirv>"Tard-Friendly Torrents™" brought to you by nirv
14:57:55<Niklink>its ok guys i know terminal
14:58:04<Niklink>ping google.com -t
14:58:10<nirv>tracert msn.com
14:58:12<Niklink>*hacker voice* in IN
14:58:15<Niklink>*im
14:58:15<nirv>haha
14:58:20<nirv>"That's got it!"
14:59:01<nirv>a good trick to do to pretend you're really good. c:\ then dir /s alt+enter. fast scrolling text while molesting the keyboard
14:59:05<nirv>"I'm hacking"
15:01:04<nirv>appledash, honestly dude I've figured out a lot of shit entirely on my own in my day, but this I just couldn't do. I would love to see if anyone can really do it on their own, without knowing terminal.
15:01:49<nirv>like I said: no single forum or website anywhere had anywhere close to what I needed. you would think it'd be simple, right? Extract all files here to a separate folder.
15:02:14<nirv>The command rewby gave me? FUCKING EGYPTIAN HIEROGLYPHICS
15:02:47<nirv>I'm curious now, appledash. Did you use the same extract command?
15:03:37<nirv>this was for first set: find . -type f -iname "*.7z.001" -exec 7z x -aos -o/home/nirv/ExtractedGeo {} \; > /home/nirv/ExtractedGeo/extracted4.log
15:03:49<nirv>this was for second set: for i in * ; do tar -C /mnt/debian5tb -xkvf $i ; done
15:03:56<nirv>I mean come on. That shit is pretty wild, dude.
15:04:26<nirv>don't even tell me that's entry level extracting
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16:20:03<nirv>appledash, I don't expect you to see this or anything but I think I mention you here or rewby. https://youtu.be/RW8ZxV9clM8?t=60
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18:01:34<appledash>I used quite similar commands to that, though I wrote them on my own
18:01:42<appledash>It's entry-level shell scripting :p
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18:37:50<@JAA>Case-sensitive stuff is *everywhere*. You just need to leave the crappy Windows ecosystem.
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22:33:29<Jake>JAA: You got mentioned in the latest Bellingcat article, https://www.bellingcat.com/resources/how-tos/2022/03/08/how-to-archive-telegram-content-to-document-russias-invasion-of-ukraine/ and it looks like they reopened the PR. https://github.com/JustAnotherArchivist/snscrape/pull/413
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22:43:43<@JAA>Jake: Thanks! I saw the PR activity but not the article.
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23:14:30<audrooku|m>Hi, I was wondering if anyone knew if there was already some tools to nicely download google cache pages
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23:18:01<audrooku|m>I only need the html source I think but I would need to save probably hundreds of thousands of pages
23:18:22<@JAA>The most important tool is time. Google has crazy rate limits.
23:19:04<@JAA>Something like 45 to 60 seconds between requests works I think.
23:23:37<audrooku|m>agh, that's horrible. I'm guessing they also have proxy blacklists?
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23:28:30<@JAA>Never experimented with that, but I'd be surprised if they didn't.
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