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14:39:42<IDK>Imagine: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Y4CloQUT/Wayback%20Machine%20-%20Google%20Chrome%2012_17_2021%203_38_12%20PM%20(2).png
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20:53:00<@JAA>Does a Dutchie know what to search for regarding https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/17/anti-5g-necklaces-radioactive-dutch-nuclear-experts-quantum-pendants ? I assume there are online shops selling these and would like to archive a few.
20:54:44<@rewby>Uh
20:54:49<@rewby>What the heck.
20:56:00<@rewby>JAA: Lemme do a dig
20:56:06<@JAA>Thanks :-)
20:56:23<russss>I've heard that they keep turning up on Amazon and they're bad at removing them
20:56:44<@rewby>So the original alert is https://www.autoriteitnvs.nl/actueel/nieuws/2021/12/16/heeft-u-een-quantum-pendant-anti-5g-hanger-of-negatief-ionen-sieraad-of-slaapmasker-leg-deze-veilig-weg
20:56:55<@rewby>Which is the classic NL gov web template
20:57:31<@rewby>It's literally called a quantum pendent
20:57:38<@rewby>*pendant
20:57:49<@rewby>And googling it pulls up the ANVS alert as first result
20:57:52<@JAA>Oh wait, I saw that somewhere earlier.
20:58:07<@JAA>https://sbamueller.com/2019/11/15/anti-5g-amulette/
20:58:14<@rewby>Here's it on the biggest dutch webshop (our equivalent to amazon) https://www.bol.com/nl/nl/p/quantum-pendant-met-negatieve-ionen-negatieve-ionen-generator-voor-scalaire-energie-quantum-hanger-inclusief-echtheidscertificaat-voor-dames-heren-jongens-en-meisjes/9300000004607780/
20:58:36<@JAA>Piece of plastic from a 3D printer :-)
20:58:46<@rewby>Ah yes, a link from a neighbours to the east. My german's sadly not that good
20:59:14<@JAA>Aw, https://energy-armor.com/ already got taken down.
20:59:36<@rewby>https://www.alive.nl/a-61220091/quantum-pendant/quantum-pendant-qp04/#description
20:59:45<@rewby>This place still has them, so potentially worth grabbing
21:00:23<russss>at least "negative ion generator" is technically correct. "quantum pendant" is something else
21:00:32<@rewby>Also, this store looks like a wild ride since their web design is straight from the 2000s and they have "gemstones" between "body care" and "thermometers"
21:01:41<@rewby>"Gemstone face roller" https://www.alive.nl/c-5407957/edelsteen-gezichtsroller/
21:01:43<@rewby>What
21:01:59<@rewby>And of course they have essential oils
21:03:25<@rewby>This wish seller claims to sell them. No idea if legit because wish. https://www.wish.com/product/58f0856f3e5ab718d4d8c087
21:04:06<@rewby>And a jesus one as well because ??? https://www.wish.com/product/5b966f92329bf6165a83c795
21:04:07<@JAA>https://www.quantumpendants.org/
21:04:25<@rewby>I'm gonna say that you should AB that real quick
21:04:56<@rewby>I have a slight feel they're not gonna be around much longer
21:05:01<@JAA>It's QuantumPendant™. The ™ makes it legit.
21:05:22<@rewby>Oh god.
21:05:30<@rewby>I just opened the bol.com link I sent earlier
21:05:32<@rewby>And read the description
21:05:36<@rewby>(Was looking for a brand)
21:05:42<@rewby>"Het is 100% VEILIG! Een citaat uit het Barron-rapport: "Zijn de opgeladen producten veilig? Absoluut! Er is niets onnatuurlijks aan scalaire energie. Het bestaat al sinds het ontstaan van het universum. Het is allemaal een kwestie van het inbedden van genezende en energie gevende frequenties". "
21:05:45<@rewby>Translation:
21:06:36<@rewby>It is 100% SAFE. A citation from the Barron report: "Are charged products safe? Absolutely! There is nothing unnatural about scalar energy. It ahs existed since the beginning of the universe. It is a matter of embedding healing and energy giving fequencies."
21:06:51<@rewby>That's a level of bullshit I've not seen in a long time
21:07:05<@rewby>"Deze vorm van energie is een natuurlijke energie die door onze aarde wordt gecreëerd en heeft geen negatieve neveneffecten. "
21:07:26<@rewby>"This form of energy is a natural energy that is created by our earth and does not have any negative side effects."
21:07:45<@rewby>Technically radiation is a form of "natural energy" that is produced by the earth
21:07:50<@rewby>But not what they were going for I presume
21:08:42<@JAA>:-)
21:09:32<@rewby>I do enjoy me a good dive into "alternative science" products
21:09:35<@rewby>If only to laugh at them
21:09:41<@rewby>And to cringe that people actually believe this
21:10:02<@JAA>https://www.ionira.nu/ was the site behind that Basic Nero armband, also dead.
21:10:21<@rewby>Also, wtf is this https://www.fruugo.nl/energy-armor-zwartroze-zwart-unisex-siliconen-armband-grootte-klein/p-57779973-117154540?language=nl&ac=croud&utm_source=organic_shopping&utm_medium=organic
21:10:25<@rewby>Why are these 90 euro
21:10:33<@rewby>For the record: Also banned by ANVS
21:11:48@rewby salutes the AIVD agent watching his searches
21:11:52<@rewby>You'll need it
21:11:54<@rewby>and a strong dring
21:11:58<@rewby>*drink
21:14:21<@JAA>By the way, I enjoyed diving into the water madness some time ago. Alkaline, raw, oxygenated, moonlight-charged, hexagonal, etc. There is a lot of nonsense out there.
21:15:42<@rewby>I occasionally enjoy watching the flat earthers talk themselves around in a circle (not in a sphere)
21:16:04<@rewby>Although weather sounds like it's ripe for bullshit too
21:17:50<@rewby>Also, JAA, I just remembered this clusterfuck of a product: https://5gbioshield.com/
21:18:05<@JAA>I like the ones that set up complicated experiments to prove that the Earth is flat, get the result that the Earth is not, in fact, flat, and then conclude that their experiment must've been flawed.
21:18:33<@rewby>It's almost like their null hypothesis (earth==flat) is wrong
21:20:47<@rewby>Wait wtf. Why would the 5gbioshield people post this testimonial to their front page:
21:20:49<@rewby>Apr 14, 2020 Within minutes of opening my Bio tool yesterday afternoon, a hives effect became Very pronounced on my scalp…as I put all 10 fingers around my head, there were painful welts rising up everywhere!! It felt horrific but I tried not to panic… I was thinking,”OMG, what is happening to me?” In…
21:20:57<@rewby>And yeah, it trails off like that
21:21:20<@JAA>Nah, that can't be it. The evil elite is trying to hide the truth from the people by spending billions on fake 'satellites', and they're the only ones to see through it!
21:22:22<@JAA>I'm still not sure whether Flat Earth or Hollow Earth is worse though.
21:22:58<@rewby>At least hollow earth people aren't claiming something that we have photographic proof for debunking
21:23:13<@rewby>We've not yet tunneled to the center of the earth so I'll at least give them that much
21:23:24<@JAA>The lens manufacturers are in on it, duh!
21:23:37<@JAA>But yeah, true.
21:24:27<@HCross>We’ve got about 15 km down I think
21:24:38<@HCross>*dug
21:25:19<@HCross>*12.5 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kola_Superdeep_Borehole
21:25:48<@rewby>Yeah but we've not stuck a camera down there and the earth is much bigger than that
21:25:57<@rewby>So at least they can claim there's not photographic evidence against them
21:26:02<@rewby>But the fucking flat earthers?
21:26:04<@rewby>Mate. The ISS exists
21:26:12<@rewby>Satellites exist
21:26:18<@rewby>We've taken pics from the moon
21:26:32<@rewby>Or just, you know, stand somewhere along the coast
21:26:45<@rewby>Or at a large lake
21:27:21<@rewby>Or go fly in an airplane
21:27:45<@rewby>There are so many ways to say, with certainty and evidence we can present them and let them experience, that they're wrong
21:28:08<@rewby>The hollow earthers are at least correct that we've not sent cameras that deep into the earth
21:28:23<@rewby>I still think they're wrong
21:28:47<@rewby>But at least it's a hair plausible compared to the earth being a disk surrounded by a wall of ice
21:29:00<@rewby>And some massive govt conspiracy is trying to cover it up
21:29:22<@rewby>Because of some alien neanderthals that are supposedly on the other side of the ice wall
21:29:28<@rewby>Or whatever the fuck their story is
21:33:55<@rewby>Also yes, I have opinions tm on this shit
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21:41:59<@JAA>Everything we found is running through AB now or has finished already. Sadly nothing from energy-armor.com even in Google's cache it seems. Thanks for the help!
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21:44:59<@rewby>No problem
21:45:10<@rewby>As I said, I find this amusing to read
21:45:17<@JAA>The good thing about flat/hollow earthers is that they're mostly harmless. They desparately need help, but they're such a tiny minority that they don't even really have an impact on furthering anti-scientific beliefs etc.
21:45:27<@rewby>Yeah basically
21:45:41<@rewby>"cute" is the best way of describing their impact
21:45:55<@rewby>The anti-5G people otoh and burning down cell towers and causing actual damage
21:46:01<@rewby>And the radiation thing
21:47:20<@JAA>Yeah, or hardcore anti-vaxxers and climate change denial.
21:51:39<@rewby>Yep yep
21:52:04<@rewby>I know an anti-vaxxer. I don't agree with him
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