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| 11:58:15 | <yarrow> | Can I please be unbanned from #noanswers? I'm the #7 contributor to the project by items and the #11 by gigabytes. I spent hundreds of dollars and who knows how many hours setting up VMs. I wrote a guide for beginners to get started with GCP VMs, recruited people into the project, and answered beginners' questions in IRC. |
| 12:00:16 | <yarrow> | I was banned for (apparently) joking that we had archived 69.420% of Yahoo Answers. Actually, I was kicked, then I later rejoined, and then was banned at an arbitrary time for no discernible reason. I was never given any explanation or warning at any time. |
| 12:04:23 | <yarrow> | It's discouraging to see Archive Team staff treat outside volunteers with such a lack of regard. If someone is going to be very hands-on in moderating and engaging with a channel full of volunteers for a particular project, they are in part playing the role of a community manager. Part of the skillset of being a community manager is being patient with people, being kind, communicating clearly, etc. |
| 12:06:03 | <yarrow> | A community manager shouldn't lash out at or ban people unpredictably just because they're annoyed. |
| 12:10:16 | <yarrow> | If Archive Team staff don't want to deal with outside volunteers on IRC, then I would suggest making a private channel for popular projects that get a large influx of outsiders. |
| 12:12:00 | <IKI> | fwiw, that channel is basically dead now, so you're not missing anything ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 12:13:22 | <yarrow> | Well, first, I still have questions about the project (e.g. the mysterious appearance of 130k items long after the project officially ended) and when I asked in another channel I was directed to ask in #noanswers instead. |
| 12:14:00 | <avoozl> | yarrow: i think the 130k came from the fact that the questions were offline but the user profiles were not directly offline, so they kept pulling those (not 100% sure) |
| 12:16:37 | <yarrow> | Second, I just want to complain about this level of capriciousness and hostility from Archive Team's leadership toward volunteers. I'm way less likely to participate in any Archive Team project now (after doing 3% of the YA project myself) because it seems that leadership is hostile toward outside volunteers. That's not fun and makes it seem more likely that a member staff will obstruct me again if I try to volunteer in the future. |
| 12:19:28 | <yarrow> | If you want to recruit volunteers, then don't treat volunteers as disposable or as nuisances. Entrust community management to staff members with good people skills and lots of patience. If you don't want to recruit volunteers, then make the IRC channels private so you don't have to deal with the nuisance of outsiders. |
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| 12:20:50 | <yarrow> | Recruiting volunteers and then acting in a hostile and capricious way to them is mean. And it's the kind of behaviour that will obviously turn off volunteers and get you a bad reputation. |
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| 12:39:41 | <@Kaz> | Complete |
| 12:39:55 | <@Kaz> | I don't have the time to actually look through all the chat logs |
| 12:40:05 | <@Kaz> | I presume whatever happened is between you and EggplantN, and it won't happen again |
| 13:12:59 | <@EggplantN> | yarrow simply the continuous questions that had previously been answered multiple times either from you or in front of you. We’re volunteers doing our best, we don’t have time to answer silly questions that are in the topic such as “Can I do 100/IP” and pinging multiple ops about this. Please we do everything we can and donate time, |
| 13:12:59 | <@EggplantN> | resources and lots of effort. |
| 13:13:43 | <@EggplantN> | We try to be as polite and kind as possible but it does wear thin at times. I do apologise but we struggle with this |
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| 13:45:21 | <nyany> | two days it took, but onedrive is finally done catching up |
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| 18:40:32 | <emerald> | Hi, so I have picked up an archive of a youtube channel, and I'd like to send it to the IA. Are the instructions here (https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/YouTube#.28Manual.29_Recommended_way_to_archive_YouTube_videos) still up to date and best practice? |
| 18:40:33 | <emerald> | cheers |
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| 22:12:27 | <Wayward> | https://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B07X4V2M3B |
| 22:14:03 | <nyany> | 269. yeahnothx |
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| 22:16:42 | <yano> | oof |
| 22:17:00 | <yano> | i've been wanting to get another 10 TB because i'm running low on disk space, but dang |
| 22:17:47 | <nyany> | https://www.newegg.ca/seagate-barracuda-st8000dm004-8tb/p/N82E16822183793 |
| 22:17:51 | <nyany> | now that's a deal |
| 22:17:54 | <Wayward> | nyany: it'll be 279 in 4 days. |
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