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| 00:51:32 | <IKI> | Oh darn. This is about the AlternateHistory.com save the resulted from a reddit thread |
| 00:51:38 | <IKI> | The user messaged me and says this: |
| 00:52:06 | <IKI> | "Would it be okay if you sent them a message? I suck at IRC.Just let them know about how the pages in immediate danger need an account to view and how this should be a recurring project since this will happen again. If you can just let them know about these two things, I'd really appreciate it.Oh, and tell them the priority threads for preservation |
| 00:52:07 | <IKI> | are listed under Old Political Chat and Old Non-Political Chat." |
| 00:52:10 | <IKI> | So sounds like the current run via archivebot won't save those threads |
| 00:52:48 | <IKI> | I'm pretty sure that one could save the relevant threads using wget if one had a user account. I have never done that myself |
| 00:53:03 | <IKI> | (or with a different tool) |
| 00:53:42 | <IKI> | User says there are 100k+ threads to be deleted |
| 00:56:03 | <IKI> | Ohhh... looks like new users need their accounts authenticated by an admin to view hidden topics |
| 00:56:05 | <IKI> | womp womp |
| 00:58:07 | <@JAA> | -> #archiveteam-bs |
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| 00:59:48 | <IKI> | Should I move this discussion there (and copy these details)? I just opened that channel, so I may have missed any discussion there if there has been any |
| 00:59:59 | <IKI> | JAA |
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| 01:01:14 | <thuban> | IKI: i saved all that |
| 01:01:44 | <IKI> | Oh great! |
| 01:02:12 | <IKI> | I may have freaked out this poor user, then |
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| 01:03:31 | <thuban> | it won't go into the wayback machine (seeing as it's a logged-in scrape from an untrusted source), and tbh i'm pretty sympathetic to the stated reasons for deletion, so i may or may not end up making it publicly available some other way, but the data is safe |
| 01:03:42 | <IKI> | I see |
| 01:03:54 | <IKI> | I'll communicate that to the reddit user, then |
| 01:04:58 | <IKI> | This is https://www.reddit.com/user/J-Dar123 |
| 01:05:14 | <IKI> | who brought this up in the first place |
| 01:05:39 | <IKI> | Out of curiosity, what is the stated reason for deletion? |
| 01:06:12 | <thuban> | "know that people very rarely read old content in Non-Political Chat, so it's a fact that it isn't very useful. However, old posts include personal information such as photographs that are as much as 17 years old. There are many examples on the internet of people getting in trouble for old and outdated personal stuff that their enemies found online." |
| 01:06:31 | <thuban> | s/"/"I / |
| 01:07:01 | <IKI> | Yeah, that's very reasonable |
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| 14:57:10 | <nyany> | tfw your leg vibrates and you slap it to make sure your phone isn't ringing |
| 14:57:15 | <nyany> | and your phone isn't even in your pocket. |
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| 17:18:01 | <spirit> | re #archiveteam: nice, the world is a slightly better place now |
| 17:20:01 | <Wayward> | lol. why's that? just some videos people should never see? |
| 17:30:13 | <rewby> | I personally think it should've been preserved |
| 17:30:20 | <rewby> | A number of videos of significant world events on there |
| 17:32:11 | <@JAA> | Yeah, what a shame. |
| 17:34:53 | <Ryz> | Is Archive.org likely to host the contents if we got to archiving it proactively? It looks to be hundreds or thousands or terabytes of content~ |
| 17:36:10 | <Ryz> | In any case, more transitioning to proactive archiving instead of just relying on emergency archiving? |
| 17:40:16 | <Ryz> | Unfortunately we can only do so much with whatever capacity we have, unless there's a change in how archiving is initiated or that we have an increase of resources |
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| 17:46:06 | <@JAA> | LiveLeak had a lot of content that would have to be deindexed at the very least, but I'm sure IA wouldn't mind a copy at least of the significant videos that existed there. |
| 17:50:53 | <Ryz> | Has there been any equivalent of that kind of website at all? Because that being a one of a kind may be a major breakpoint |
| 17:52:44 | <@JAA> | It was pretty unique. |
| 17:53:28 | <spirit> | the world would also be a slightly better place if 4chan was nuked |
| 17:53:44 | <spirit> | actually, sorry for bringing that up here |
| 17:53:55 | <spirit> | not a place for discussing that. |
| 17:54:13 | <@JAA> | It wouldn't. A place disappearing doesn't mean the people don't still think the same stuff. |
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| 19:04:48 | <Wayward> | the site became shitty over the past few years anyway, deleting tons of prominent videos. last minute archival wouldn't have mattered much. |
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| 19:40:28 | <nyany> | In my opinion we shouldn't be here to judge what should and shouldn't be archived and what kinds of websites are out there that we don't like. |
| 19:41:04 | <nyany> | There's bound to be shit that one or two of us don't like out there, doesn't mean that we have time to judge if it's going down the shitter |
| 19:47:26 | <Wayward> | You have to be careful about handling raw video footage that runs afoul of your hosting provider and ISP. When a video destroys an ideology, people blame the video and not their ideology. :) |
| 19:47:56 | <nyany> | Oh I get it yeah |
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