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00:05:33<atphoenix>looks like discord removed at least 1 WSB 'server'. At least per posts on https://www.reddit.com/r/Wallstreetbetsnew/
00:06:36<OrIdow6>Looks like you too are annoyed by their usage of "server"
00:10:28<atphoenix>yes. Misleading repurposing of words. And of course https://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:JustAnotherArchivist/Discord
00:13:06<OrIdow6>Would have been a good chance that AT, had it primarily operated through Discord, would have been banned after the Parler project in a similar preemptive PR strike
00:16:47<Ajay>in this case they say it was due to hate speech, not financial issues
00:18:44<OrIdow6>In any case, I get the impression that the real motivation was to avoid "Discord" being discussed critically in news articles
00:19:52<OrIdow6>(By the quotes, I distinguish the word, not allege that it's not really called "Discord")
00:21:51<Ajay>I "see"
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00:46:05<atphoenix>Big D "Discord" doesn't like small d "discord". (where discord = conflict, dissension, tension or strife resulting from a lack of agreement)
00:46:39<atphoenix>which fits in perfectly with the "Misleading repurposing of words"
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01:44:10<Doranwen>if they didn't like the connotations of "discord" they should've picked a different name :P
01:44:49Doranwen really thinks it's quite silly to choose that name and then dislike the very obvious connotations
01:48:29<crispyalice2>to argue you have to talk, and on discord you talk
01:48:36<crispyalice2>checkmate athiests
01:50:50<Ajay>interesting, I always thought the word "discord" just was about general discussion. I guess I have not heard it much in general conversation though
01:51:40<crispyalice2>thats what big Discord wants you to think
01:51:49<@JAA>I like musical discords.
01:52:12<crispyalice2>didn't music like that cause a riot one time
01:57:39<crispyalice2>the Rite of Spring I think it was called
01:58:48<@JAA>Indeed
02:04:35<atphoenix>Ajay, general discussion = discourse
02:04:56<Ajay>ah, english is confusing
03:11:42<icedice>Could also be that the SEC and tech regulation makes Discord sweat so Discord just wanted WSB gone
03:25:19<ALTROSKY_mystique>Or, most likely, pretty bad and shitty memes that violate discords policies that has nothing to do with stocks or trading at all.
03:33:25<Ajay>yea, on reddit they locked comments and posts to approved people only now
03:33:30<Ajay>to try to prevent that spam I guess
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03:52:30<Doranwen>in case anyone is curious, I happened to have a dictionary program open (faster than my 'net these days, lol) and the first definitions for "discord" that I found was "Lack of agreement among persons, groups, or things. Tension or strife resulting from a lack of agreement; dissension." (the 2nd definition was the musical one)
03:52:47<Doranwen>so yeah, that's like the first thing I'd think of if someone asked me "what does 'discord' mean?"
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03:54:09<Doranwen>discord and discourse *are* awfully similar soundwise, I hadn't thought about that before
03:54:30<Doranwen>only the final sound is different
03:54:34<atphoenix>and discourse is a forum software...
03:54:38<Doranwen>LOL
03:54:40<Doranwen>did not know that
03:54:47<Doranwen>but that makes far more sense
03:55:04<Doranwen>a very appropriate name for software with that function
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03:56:13<crispyalice2>discourse generally means debate so i would imagine they originated from the same roots
03:58:21<@JAA>Well, they share the dis- prefix, but otherwise, no.
03:59:34<@JAA>Discordia already existed in Latin with about the same meaning as discord. Discursus meant something very different (running around).
04:00:32<crispyalice2>a very interesting rabbit hole
04:00:45<@JAA>Yeah, etymology is an interesting field.
04:06:38<@jrwr>I think it's discord's second name too used to be called something else earlier
04:09:35<Ajay>I guess it might be from the french I learned where there is discours, which is discourse, not discord
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10:33:47<icedice><ALTROSKY_mystique> Or, most likely, pretty bad and shitty memes that violate discords policies that has nothing to do with stocks or trading at all
10:33:58<icedice>Very convenient timing though
10:41:18<OrIdow6>That's what I mean; it is ridiculous to think that its being banned had nothing to do with the negative New York Times coverage the same day, and instead was a result of their using "bad... memes"
10:42:15<OrIdow6>My impression of these things is that it's understood by everybody that that's the real reason, and their ostensible reason is just to make things easier bureaucratically etc.
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15:17:16<@JAA>How convenient that Discord can ban pretty much anyone whenever they want due to their ridiculous ToS. :-)
15:17:42<@JAA>It's almost as if using Discord has always been a bad idea.
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18:26:40<@arkiver>JAA: hah you dont say :P
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19:43:15<icedice>Yeah, you can get banned just for using third-party Discord clients such as BetterDiscord
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21:38:04<@Kaz>is the internet broken
21:39:23<sliccricc>wat
21:39:44<OrIdow6>It seems to be working for me
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22:28:40<@JAA>GME was 250 % shorted earlier, just before Robinhood disabled buying.
22:28:47<@JAA>I'm running out of popcorn, send help. lol
22:29:01<@EggplantN>its too good
22:29:04<@EggplantN>its too fucking good
22:29:18<@JAA>Oh yeah, and then a class action lawsuit was filed within hours of that, and now they'll enable buying again tomorrow.
22:31:39<@JAA>Well, 'limited buying'.
22:33:48<@Kaz>FYI: https://twitter.com/vladtenev/status/1354900958942175233
22:34:07<@Kaz>probably worth snsraping the whole acct to be safe
22:34:27<@JAA>Done
22:34:37<@Kaz>ty
22:35:23<atphoenix>lots of people are hopping mad. From both ends of the US political spectrum.
22:37:01<jut>Can someone TL;DR what happened?
22:37:08<atphoenix>this pair of tweets: https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1354833603943931905 and https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1354830697459032066 was not expected
22:37:11<@JAA>Yeah, it's very weird to see AOC and Ted Cruz agree on this issue. lol
22:37:19<@JAA>Heh, ninja
22:37:29<@Kaz>also see: AOC's followup
22:37:39<@Kaz>https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1354848253729234944
22:40:08<@JAA>jut: Hedge funds shorted GameStop's stock (i.e. bet that it would decrease in value) by ridiculous amounts. GameStop's actually doing okay, so people bought the stock and it was rising for a couple months. Now their shorts expire, so they *have* to buy the shares back. But people realised what was happening and are buying and holding shares, which drives the price up. GME was at $10 not long ago, now
22:40:14<@JAA>it's at $300+. Today, the funds tried to artificially bring it down again by blocking retail investors temporarily from buying stock shortly after shorting the stock some more to reduce their losses.
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22:43:20<@Kaz>(supposedly) tried to bring it back down
22:43:32<@Kaz>There could be some truth in the SEC requirement stuff etc
22:43:43<SpikedCola>word on the street is Robinhood's orders are placed through one of those very hedge funds
22:44:07<SpikedCola>and they don't want the poors competing with them, so they phoned up Robinhood's CEO and threatened them
22:44:38<@Kaz>I think RH brought their clearing in-house now
22:44:40<@Kaz>but not 100% sure
22:45:29<SpikedCola>i'm sure its within RH's terms of service that they can do things like this (refuse to trade certain stocks, etc.) but it certainly looks bad on the outside
22:46:10<@JAA>ToS aren't relevant if it's market manipulation.
22:46:22<@EggplantN>"how to identify if your tweet did not go down well. step 1"
22:46:23<@EggplantN>https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/MITPnsDN/image.png
22:46:38<@JAA>Also, lots of ToS contain all sorts of unenforcable stuff.
22:46:47<@Kaz>https://blog.robinhood.com/news/2021/1/28/an-update-on-market-volatility
22:46:54<@Kaz>'To be clear, this was a risk-management decision, and was not made on the direction of the market makers we route to.'
22:47:16<@JAA>Source: trust me bro.
22:47:17<SpikedCola>yeah, im sure it would have been risky for them if they pissed off the rich.
22:47:17<@Kaz>You could obviously suggest they're lying to save face, but I think it's unlikely for now
22:47:44<SpikedCola>ah i have no proof of anything, it's all jaded speculation on my part :)
22:47:53<@EggplantN>i dunno markets corrupt. i keep my money in my mattress and im safe from this 5G stuff, i got my tinfoil on.
22:48:03<@JAA>:-)
22:48:24<@JAA>I thought you guys in the UK were burning the 5G towers down or something.
22:49:23<@JAA>But yeah, certainly possible that Robinhood's correct. It does stink though.
22:49:55<@JAA>Especially in combination with the 250 % shorting earlier today.
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22:55:57<isthisthedarkweb>I don't know the industry well enough to have an opinion on market manipulation, but Robinhood has been probed and fined by the SEC (and has another class action stemming from) obscuring the fact that they primarily made money through their order flow to market makers
22:58:20<isthisthedarkweb>From that SEC probe it became wider information that Citidal was their biggest client for that service, and Citidal was one of the two firms that bailed out the biggest GME shorter, Melvin Capital, three days ago
22:58:58<isthisthedarkweb>At a minimum it just looks bad from the outside
23:00:28<Ryz>I've been proactively archiving Robinhood-likes, which would include those that took a stand similar to Robinhood on GameStop and similar stocks
23:00:49<Ryz>I would like to find more and archive 'em if it may be
23:00:57<@JAA>++
23:01:08<Ryz>...?
23:01:11<@EggplantN>JAA no no they burnt down the 3/4G towers instead because they're smooth brains
23:02:30<@JAA>lol
23:02:57<@JAA>Ryz: ++ is a common operator in programming languages for incrementing a value. It means 'I agree'.
23:03:23<@EggplantN>+_
23:04:00<SpikedCola>JAA++ == JAB?
23:04:06<Ryz>Ahh, thanks JAA; thought it was some obscure emoticon
23:04:27<@JAA>SpikedCola: Depends on your endianness. :-)
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23:17:47<atphoenix>could also use +1
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23:20:15<@Kaz>less movement to do ++
23:21:13<@JAA>^
23:21:55<atphoenix>++ :P
23:22:05<@JAA>:-)
23:22:08<@JAA>ONE OF US!
23:27:41<thuban>obviously, the _correct_ method is to retroactively send ++ _before_ the message with which you agree appears, so that poorly optimizing compilers don't have to do an expensive copy of a non-fundamental type :P
23:28:06<thuban>the method of achieving this is left as an exercise for the reader
23:29:56<atphoenix>I use an optical-text-scanner feeding a glyph interpreter running on wetware
23:31:13<thuban>for time travel?
23:32:23<atphoenix>yes for time travel, unfortunately I haven't any way to reverse the ordinality of the 4th dimension
23:32:41<thuban>lol
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