00:13:06<Doranwen>a very off-topic question (perfect for this channel): anyone know of a program that'll work similar to this with any wordlist one chooses? (I'd rather find something that would highlight any word not on the list): https://www.splasho.com/upgoer5/
00:15:51<Doranwen>the closest thing I've found is AntWordProfiler, but it doesn't do real-time and there's no easy way to see the full text with any sort of highlighting of the problem words (all it does is list words in the text that aren't on the list and one has to go find them and edit them and save the file and re-run it to see the change): http://www.laurenceanthony.net/software/antwordprofiler/
00:20:26<@JAA>atphoenix: There are a number of clients, but Riot/Element is still the only one that implements all features I believe. It took other clients years to add end-to-end encryption after it was standardised, and now the cross-device signing (which is really required to be able to switch between devices in a reasonable manner, as I understand it) is Element-only I believe; not sure about other stuff.
00:20:52<@JAA>I agree that IRC is far from perfect, by the way, and Matrix is probably the best contender to replace it, but I feel like it isn't quite there yet.
00:23:31<OrIdow6>Yeah, if IRC was off the table for whatever reason, Riot/Matrix/Element/whatever-name-change-they-make-next would be the best thing to replace it
00:23:34<OrIdow6>IMO
00:24:57<OrIdow6>But I like IRC for its simplicity (Riot/Matrix/Element communicates on top of HTTP IIRC)
00:29:36<OrIdow6>Something which seems to carry over in clients (looking through that page, none of the Riot/Matrix/Element clients don't have what are, compared to a normal IRC client, gigantic spaces between message lines)
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00:30:47<@JAA>++
00:31:58<@JAA>You can implement a basic IRC client in a dozen lines of code or so. I think my record was 13 in Python (with readable code). Now try doing that with Matrix...
00:51:32<lunik1>there's a few matrix clients out there despite it's fairly low adoption, so in my view it's probably easy enough to write one that it isn't a serious impediment. writing a matrix server on the other hand...
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01:58:29Doranwen suspects a gedit plugin might do the trick for her word highlighting issue, but she doesn't have the skills to write one - requires Python coding, and she's only just gotten to being able to use sed…
01:59:54<Doranwen>is there anywhere on the 'net someone can post a request for one? or ask if such a program exists? I don't even know where to start
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02:01:23<@JAA>Doranwen: You could abuse a spell checker for this. Add a dictionary containing your set of words, then set the editor to use that. That's actually how the splasho.com page works as well.
02:01:46<Doranwen>…interesting!
02:01:50<Doranwen>I hadn't thought of that
02:02:50<@JAA>You just need to make sure that the dictionary has all derivative forms as well (e.g. plural, genitive, conjugations).
02:02:56Doranwen nods
02:02:57<Doranwen>of course
02:03:10<Doranwen>AntWordProfiler requires the same thing, so I'm used to generating those wordlists
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02:13:21<Doranwen>…trying to figure out how to add the dictionary appears to be the really tricky bit
02:16:20<Doranwen>pluma (my usual text editor) doesn't seem to have any method of selecting specific dictionaries - the spell check plugin is very basic - and gedit's spell check plugin is even more basic, no options at all
02:16:37<Doranwen>apparently it's all by language, which would mean I'd have to create a fake language for my system, if I used one of those two
02:19:13Doranwen thinks trying Writer with a custom dictionary might work better, lol
02:22:53<Doranwen>…this may be doable, the .dic files are easy to drop a list of words into :D
02:22:57<Doranwen>thanks for the suggestion!
02:23:24<@JAA>:-)
02:25:48<@kiska>Meanwhile thelounge client. Typing from my phone xD
02:26:10<@kiska>But yeah I do host the thing on aws so xD
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04:34:32<Doranwen>JAA: I'm actually asking for help on the OO forums because I can't figure out how one actually turns off a standard dictionary in lieu of a custom one, but if it's doable someone there likely will know
04:36:10<@JAA>How is OpenOffice these days? The project was more or less falling apart years ago when I switched to LibreOffice.
04:40:31<Doranwen>I don't know - I ask for help with LO, lol
04:40:36<Doranwen>but they have quite a few people do that there
04:40:46<Doranwen>most of the time the solution for one works for the other
04:41:04<@JAA>Yeah, for basic things that haven't changed since the fork, the two are very similar anyway.
04:41:07<Doranwen>especially using Base, I haven't had any trouble with any of the solutions I've been given
04:41:28<Doranwen>this may be trickier, but I did make sure to clarify which I was using so people will know
04:41:35<@JAA>And most of the end-user stuff isn't meant to change anyway, even if the internals change.
04:41:49<@JAA>Good luck :-)
04:41:55<Doranwen>I just find the OO forums way better than any LO equivalent - I've seen some LO Answers thing but it's not like a proper forum
04:41:59<Doranwen>thanks :)
04:43:01<Doranwen>this is the first time I've asked for help with a Writer thing - previously all my questions have been about Base, as I've only learned how to create a database in the past couple of years and of course the first one I wanted to create turned out to be rather complex and not a typical beginner's database, lol
04:43:17<@JAA>Yeah, ask.libreoffice.org is the big one. There's also IRC I think.
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16:10:56<honno>Uhh this may be stupid to ask, but I'm guessing if I scraped ~100,000 IA-hosted pages (i.e. get request them for their text contents), that'd be 1) impractical coz of timeouts 2) not a very nice thing to do for their servers?
16:14:08<honno>I wouldn't even know the timestamps in advance, so I'd be making IA servers resolve 100,000 urls
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23:18:48<Lord_Nightmare>is my reading of tlller's proposed copyright felony(?) law correct? I made a tweet-thread about it here: https://twitter.com/Lord_Nightmare/status/1339706621514149896
23:19:03<Lord_Nightmare>I have a feeling I may be mis-reading it
23:19:24<Lord_Nightmare>but the 3 sections of the law seem to me to be an MPAA wishlist, and were probably drafted by the MPAA and passed to tiller if i had to guess
23:19:41<Lord_Nightmare>(b).1 seems directed at popcorn time or any forks or similar services (kodi stuff?)
23:19:52<Lord_Nightmare>(b).2 seems directed at bittorrent and dht
23:20:09<Lord_Nightmare>(b).3 seems directed squarely at kim dotcom but also covers any other shady file transfer services
23:20:51<Lord_Nightmare>The text of tillis' law is found here: https://www.tillis.senate.gov/services/files/A30B0C08-FB97-4F90-BB60-43283EB7AF35
23:21:37<Lord_Nightmare>and the definitions which you need to understand wtf its talking about are in `17 U.S. Code § 101 - Definitions` which can be found here: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/101
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