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| 00:32:33 | <klea> | btw, JAA if you give dir-to-ia a folder with a file that has no content it will fail as dirty because IA doesn't allow files with no content-length |
| 00:33:09 | <klea> | A request of the requested method PUT requires a valid Content-length. |
| 00:38:54 | <katia> | We archiving empty files now ig |
| 00:39:54 | <klea> | no, but i noticed that it marked it as dirty when i accidentally left an empty file from test. |
| 00:39:54 | <@JAA> | Reasonable |
| 00:40:13 | <@JAA> | I mean, I could make it fail locally instead. |
| 00:40:27 | <klea> | you could make it not mark it as dirty, or is that a bad idea? |
| 00:40:35 | <katia> | Doesn’t seem better |
| 00:40:39 | <katia> | Fix your empty files |
| 00:41:01 | <klea> | yeah, that is also a good idea |
| 00:41:13 | <klea> | and having dir-to-ia add a marker when it has successfully finished uploading would be possible? |
| 00:41:17 | <@JAA> | This might actually be a bug in ia-upload-stream though. You can upload empty files to IA. |
| 00:41:23 | <klea> | oh. |
| 00:41:37 | <katia> | klea: have a patch? |
| 00:41:48 | <klea> | katia: i can create patch if JAA wants. |
| 00:41:53 | <@JAA> | A significant percentage of DPoS items have an empty .tar. |
| 00:42:10 | <@JAA> | Random example: https://archive.org/download/archiveteam_urls_20260125001525_d9e94fa7 |
| 00:42:17 | <klea> | JAA: we can't see. |
| 00:42:22 | <klea> | oh wait what |
| 00:42:27 | <@JAA> | Of course you can. |
| 00:42:52 | <klea> | huh |
| 00:45:26 | <c3manu> | bookdown.org is still running, but by now i queued all the books listed on https://www.bookdown.org/home/archive/ (i don't think i missed any, i went through them manually) |
| 00:46:07 | <c3manu> | i mean the ones that are hosted on domains other than bookdown.org |
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| 01:24:11 | <klea> | i wonder why JAA choose the hextable approach rather than strtol or strtoul: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10324/convert-a-hexadecimal-string-to-an-integer-efficiently-in-c |
| 01:24:24 | <klea> | from #archiveteam-ot (i was told that was off topic there) |
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| 01:25:10 | <@JAA> | I didn't write that code. But I suspect a static array lookup is faster than a function call. |
| 01:25:35 | <steering> | especially when that function call is gonna do a bunch of math on it |
| 01:25:40 | <klea> | oh. |
| 01:25:50 | <steering> | (and a ton of branches) |
| 01:26:00 | <steering> | https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=blob;f=stdlib/strtol_l.c;h=ac53312ba87f48a86ca7a6e494ea8ae0838e0b6e;hb=HEAD#l236 |
| 01:26:13 | <@JAA> | Anubis-- |
| 01:26:13 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'Anubis' now has -14 karma! |
| 01:26:15 | <klea> | anubis-- |
| 01:26:15 | <eggdrop> | [karma] 'anubis' now has -15 karma! |
| 01:27:03 | <klea> | i was too far away from keyboard to type a uppercase a (also was going to type it with the wrong hand) |
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| 01:27:25 | <@JAA> | Yeah, fun function |
| 01:30:19 | <PC> | is #photosucket dead? i've got some image URLs that aren't saving (and since it may be a free account, they might not be around forever, but i think they'll last a few months), but the channel seems pretty quiet |
| 01:31:03 | <@JAA> | Channels for inactive projects tend to be quiet. It's the right channel. |
| 01:32:14 | <PC> | nods. so inactive currently? wondering what the best way to get those images on the WBM would be. (i'm also curious if that'll fix them where they're embedded, since i've got a livejournal post with a bunch of them that are just showing as broken images) |
| 01:33:45 | <klea> | JAA: how bad of an idea is running this script in a loop somewhere as long as i won't have dir-to-ia folders in the dir-to-ia directory that will be getting new files in a incremental manner? <https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/vAP6T/clean-dir-to-ia.sh> |
| 01:40:11 | <@JAA> | klea: I can't be bothered to think about the interactions with the current version of dir-to-ia, but regardless, you'd be relying on implementaiton details that might change at any time. |
| 01:40:34 | <klea> | could you expose things that aren't implementation details that won't change? |
| 01:40:49 | <@JAA> | Those are in the config file. |
| 01:41:00 | <@JAA> | And in the --help text. |
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| 01:41:33 | <klea> | that doesn't allow me to hook into jobs failing, or jobs completing succesfully |
| 01:41:53 | <klea> | i wanted to delete just the .dir-to-ia metadata files and then the directory they're in. |
| 01:41:53 | <@JAA> | Correct |
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| 02:12:19 | <@Fusl> | klea justauser: update just in case youre wondering, jason pointed me to a discord server with people that archive old gaming magazines and similar stuff, im talks with them now |
| 02:12:33 | <klea> | ah |
| 02:12:56 | <klea> | Fusl: if you could, and the discord seems to not be too small, could you consider giving a invite to #discard for archival? |
| 02:15:41 | <@Fusl> | klea: sure, just did |
| 02:15:47 | <klea> | thanks |
| 02:15:53 | <@Fusl> | ofc! |
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| 02:42:01 | <kiska> | Fusl as someone who works in freight, do not send those magazines internationally. They will experience the most horrific things that happen when a worker has to move up to 1.2k cartons per hour |
| 02:51:46 | <nicolas17> | many years ago I had a subscription to a weekly electronics magazine, which came with components |
| 02:52:25 | <nicolas17> | in a little bag together attached to the magazine |
| 02:52:32 | <nicolas17> | all the way from Spain to Argentina |
| 02:52:35 | <nicolas17> | there wasn't a single issue where the integrated circuits came intact, I always had to un-bend the pins |
| 02:54:04 | <klea> | i wonder what company did that. |
| 02:54:51 | <nicolas17> | klea: well a few years ago I scanned every single of the 1200 pages so here you go https://archive.org/details/fg-electronica-modular/ |
| 02:55:01 | <klea> | huh |
| 02:55:04 | <klea> | how did you do those scans? |
| 02:55:30 | <nicolas17> | flatbed scanner |
| 02:55:53 | <nicolas17> | the pages were pretty much designed to be detached and put into a binder |
| 02:56:01 | <klea> | oh |
| 02:56:50 | <that_lurker> | IA has some interesting magazines stored |
| 02:57:04 | <klea> | btw, how did you load it to archive? |
| 02:57:28 | <klea> | oh simply electronica-modular-NN_images.zip files? |
| 02:57:31 | <nicolas17> | yes |
| 02:57:36 | <klea> | nice |
| 02:58:00 | <nicolas17> | the format is simply a zip with image files, which should have filenames that sort correctly |
| 02:58:20 | <that_lurker> | nicolas17: you should add the scanner to the item metadata :-) |
| 02:58:37 | <@Fusl> | nicolas17: flatbed scanner is probably also how im going to archive mine if i cant find anyone who will do it for me but its going to be a lot of work to go through all of them :/ |
| 02:59:42 | <klea> | nicolas17 apparently went trough 1200 pages :p |
| 02:59:42 | <nicolas17> | that_lurker: it's unclear to me what the 'scanner' metadata property is supposed to mean |
| 03:00:18 | <klea> | <https://archive.org/developers/metadata-schema/index.html#scanner> |
| 03:00:43 | <nicolas17> | given that the uploader likes to stick "Internet Archive HTML5 Uploader 1.7.0" there |
| 03:01:18 | <klea> | i suppose it should be the physical flatbed scanner that you used. |
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| 03:29:18 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine/Partial exclusions (+246, Add…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60331&oldid=60321 |
| 03:35:04 | <cruller> | That reminds me, is [[ArchiveCorps]] still alive? |
| 03:36:46 | <klea> | given the last actual edit with actual changes that aren't gramatical, automated changes, or changes in style was in 2015-08-30, i'd say no. <https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=ArchiveCorps&oldid=24132> |
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| 03:37:13 | <klea> | i should've used the Special: revision link format. |
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| 03:44:23 | <cruller> | Their site was accessible as of last August, but was not being actively updated. https://web.archive.org/web/20250101000000*/http://www.archivecorps.org/ |
| 03:47:44 | <klea> | domain got parked 2025-09-08 so likely expired. <view-source:https://web.archive.org/web/20250908154038if_/http://www.archivecorps.org/> |
| 03:47:57 | <klea> | smh |
| 03:48:01 | <klea> | (*) <https://web.archive.org/web/20250908154038if_/http://www.archivecorps.org/> |
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