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00:06:04<pabs>sounded like no replacement
00:06:14<pabs>"The kernel bugzilla server, Ryabitsev said, is ""semi-dead"", and has been for several years. He suggested that the time has come to simply get rid of it. That server is running bugzilla 5.2; upstream is up to 5.9, but there is no upgrade path to get there. If the bugzilla server is removed, he said, he would find a way to keep the existing history around, but it would not be possible to create new entries. There did not seem to be any opposition
00:06:15<pabs>to removing the bugzilla server (which has never been all that extensively used in the kernel community), but it will not happen immediately."
00:06:29<pabs>thats the only mention of it in the article
00:06:57<pabs>ah also a summary from the kernel.org infra guy https://lwn.net/ml/all/20251209-roaring-hidden-alligator-068eea@lemur
00:07:21<pabs>from there:
00:07:37<pabs>"question remains with what to replace bugzilla, but it's a longer discussion topic that I don't want to raise here; it may be a job for the bugspray bot that can extend the two-way bridge functionality to multiple bug tracker frameworks"
00:07:51<that_lurker>ok. Then it would be nice if they would allow AB job with high concurrency to run through before the deletion :-)
00:09:10<pabs>yeah, asked for that. JAA saved kernel.bugzilla.org already in 2023, but there will be some newer comments/bugs/attachments I guess
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00:35:14<nicolas17>yes this seems worth contacting
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00:55:13<h2ibot>PaulWise edited Twitter (+516, add more details): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58625&oldid=58559
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01:15:55<@arkiver>hexagonwin: bufftoon will be archived a bit close to the deadline
01:16:02<@arkiver>those expiring images are annoying
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01:46:39<pabs>TIL a BitTorrent based archiving group: https://sciop.net/
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02:38:08<hexagonwin>arkiver: thanks. my attempt with browsertrix gave me 150GB in 13hrs and we got 26hrs so i guess it should be ok. please let me know if theres anything i can help
02:38:56<@JAA>arkiver: Yeah, I think we can run that Amino stuff through AB, probably in a few parts in parallel. I'll take a closer look in a bit.
02:43:21<@JAA>pabs: Sounds good, thanks!
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03:12:45<azalea_sh_>https://transfer.archivete.am/10ilVi/amino_semi.md
03:12:46<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/10ilVi/amino_semi.md
03:14:00<azalea_sh_>2 Parts, decompressed ~1.9G containing 22,569,396 URLs deduped against the previous URLs file (hopefully)
03:16:10<azalea_sh_>4am moment, ill go sleep now but that should be all from the public and semi public subsets at least
03:17:04<azalea_sh_>also sciop really does look interesting, i thought of putting the DB dump on there but registering gave me a 5XX so i guess ill just dump it somewhere else some time
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03:25:15<nicolas17>I was going to suggest shuffling the list before sending it to archivebot so that the requests are more scattered across the subdomains
03:25:30<nicolas17>but 85% of URLs are in pm1, so probably no point...
03:27:04<nicolas17>arkiver: should I AB?
03:27:14<nicolas17>being 22M URLs maybe I need to split it?
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03:48:46<nicolas17>JAA: should I feed this aminoapps list into AB?
03:49:59<@JAA>nicolas17: Not as is, I think. See above, I'll take a closer look.
03:50:43<nicolas17>well it's gzipped, would need to merge and decompress (maybe recompress with zstd), but other than that...
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04:37:11<TheTechRobo>Maybe transfer should have some form of abuse@ email address listed on the site so the phishing links can be reported by people who aren't part of AT?
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04:38:58<that_lurker>There is a very nice and totally working contact us section :-P
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05:10:55<h2ibot>PaulWise edited Obstacles (+132, BasedFlare): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58626&oldid=58584
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06:08:03<h2ibot>Calmevening edited Android Applications (-1): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58627&oldid=58492
06:08:04<h2ibot>Calmevening edited Android Applications (+1): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58628&oldid=58627
06:16:04<h2ibot>Cooljeanius edited Social network (+10, /* List of social networks */ sometimes people…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58629&oldid=44189
06:21:04<h2ibot>Cooljeanius edited Social network (+129, /* List of social networks */ add some more): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58630&oldid=58629
06:27:05<h2ibot>Cooljeanius edited Dealing with Cloudflare (+200, link to…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58631&oldid=58182
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07:30:04<mannie>https://www.reddit.com/r/Archiveteam/comments/1pmw0fv/urgent_chinese_catholic_archive_facing_imminent/
07:30:31<mannie>Is there already taken action to preserve this?
07:30:45<mannie>If need I can run it with archivebot.
07:32:11<pokechu22>It looks like nothing has been started for that yet. I can't tell quite how big it is though - hopefully archivebot would be enough
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07:33:11<pokechu22>hmm, but https://www.wanyouzhenyuan.cn/index.php?m=music&c=album&id=97 uses e.g. https://www.chinacath.cn/api/v2/track/783 too
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07:34:47<pokechu22>That's probably going to need some extra work because https://www.wanyouzhenyuan.cn/index.php?m=music&c=album&id=97 uses e.g. https://www.chinacath.cn/api/v2/track/783 - but an archivebot job should at least get things started.
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09:20:47<hexagonwin>could someone run this url on archivebot? the company got bankrupt: https://shop.buyzle.co.kr/int/communication/CompanyInfo.do?_method=initial
09:21:36<hexagonwin>it's an online shopping mall website, i don't think the whole website <https://www.buyzle.co.kr/malls/index.html#> is really worth grabbing
09:25:23<hexagonwin>maybe this announcement section <https://shop.buyzle.co.kr/communication/NewsListMgt.do?_method=form> is also worth grabbing for context, but it's not static :(
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10:58:13<cruller>Slashdot Japan, which shut down, has been drop-caught and fake sites have been created by abusing its archives :(
11:04:55<cruller>I can find only Japanese articles about it. https://internet.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/yajiuma/2071555.html
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11:11:47<hexagonwin>i saved that buyzle.co.kr with browsertrix and here's its wacz, does someone know how to extract all the urls in it so it can be run in archivebot?
11:11:49<hexagonwin>https://transfer.archivete.am/vUl7L/interpark-manual-20251216105204-f64351e2-a48.wacz
11:11:49<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/vUl7L/interpark-manual-20251216105204-f64351e2-a48.wacz
11:13:39<hexagonwin>cruller both srad.jp and sourceforge.jp seems to show a generic domain parking page for me
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11:15:30<cruller>Slashdot Japan is the predecessor of srad.jp
11:15:59<cruller>Btw, I can extract the urls now.
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11:19:07<cruller>Hmm, this is a bit different from the one made by Archiveweb.page. But it doesn't seem too difficult.
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11:27:43<cruller>I did just extract it, extract "index.cdx"es, and combine them into https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/e4ZWg/merged-index.cdx
11:43:34<cruller>Extract URLs starting with http, and dedupe. https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/15LXRG/urls.txt
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11:53:14<azalea_sh__>Hey there! Just noticed that the URLs were put to AB, thanks a bunch!
11:53:25<cruller>It's interesting that ArchiveWeb.page can't load interpark-manual-20251216105204-f64351e2-a48.wacz, but ReplayWeb.page can.
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12:03:09<cruller>For a small wacz file, you can load it into replayweb.page, go to the Resources tab, scroll all the way down, and copy everything. However, be careful with “__wb_method=POST”.
12:08:46<cruller>By the way, I once tried crawling a site with 1,000-10,000 pages using Brozzler, but it didn't work out and I gave up. I haven't even tried since then.
12:25:41<hexagonwin>sad :( a reliable browser based crawler would be very useful for quick grabs
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12:34:06<h2ibot>Cruller edited Alive... OR ARE THEY (+114, Add Kernel.org Bugzilla and 万有真原, Remove OSDN): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58632&oldid=58623
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12:51:51<cruller>JAA: Is the edit by 'Brad' still pending? May I help you?
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12:56:12<cruller>I've partially undone a Brad's edit (https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Deathwatch&oldid=57769), and tomorrow is my day off.
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12:57:47<cruller>Should sites listed in https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Deathwatch#Pining_for_the_Fjords_ (Dying) be moved to the appropriate section after the deadline? Of course it would be better to do so, but out of proportion to the benefit.
12:59:39<cruller>Ugh, machine translater somtimes inject (extra) spaces.
13:05:12<cruller>But the Manual translator usually makes mistakes.
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13:05:31<Webuser614683>Is anyone trying to archive Guilded before it shuts down on the 19th?
13:07:48<cruller>hexagonwin: You can also test https://github.com/iipc/warcaroo
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13:11:40<azalea_sh__>Webuser614683: what would it take to archive guilded? Is there an accessible index of servers there? And do you know what the ratelimits look like? If so, I could write a scraper probably
13:13:11<Webuser614683>Best way to find servers would most likely manually (or automatically idk the Roblox ratelimits) communities which display guilded https://www.roblox.com/communities/9250955/Plehlowlas-Studio
13:13:11<Webuser614683>I also have ZERO clue what the ratelimits are
13:13:41<Webuser614683>The search bar on https://www.guilded.gg/explore/servers/overview seems to show most servers also you just got to search keywords for them
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13:15:51<azalea_sh__>I can definitely check later when I'm home
13:16:57<azalea_sh__>I'll log off IRC on this client because it sucks and I'm in a train (thank you Deutsche Bahn), i'll Check the channel logs later though
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13:23:09<Webuser614683>azalea_sh_ https://www.guilded.gg/docs/api/http_rate_limits
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13:29:49<cruller>Webuser614683 azalea_sh__ : Please note that discussions about guilded may also be taking place in #robloxd. (idk though)
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