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00:39:39<Webuser623052>Hi, concerned Canadian historian (and archiveteam newbie) here, I need help and I hope I can find some here.
00:39:39<Webuser623052>The Dictionary of Architects in Canada, an incredible website for architects, historians and heritage buffs is currently disappearing.
00:39:39<Webuser623052>Its founder and sole contributor, architect Robert George Hill (1947-2026), has passed away last winter and his work is in limbo since. The website, https://dictionaryofarchitectsincanada.org went down shortly after, probably for domain renewal. It has then been sold for 20k $, went back up shortly, and is now turning into a AI online casinos
00:39:39<Webuser623052>apology slop.
00:39:39<Webuser623052>I saved the site with the WaybackMachine, as some pages are still available, (ex. a single architect page https://dictionaryofarchitectsincanada.org/node/1085, or glossary https://dictionaryofarchitectsincanada.org/glossary/a ), but many outlinks seem to be dead since the site first lapsed in march. The site map is still up though
00:39:39<Webuser623052>(https://dictionaryofarchitectsincanada.org/page-sitemap.xml), and it seems to link to pages which links are broken on the site, but the Wayback Machine does not seem to archive it all too well; it's just the list of links in plain text...
00:39:39<Webuser623052>What can be done with this? Can you guys save the site with all pages linked in the sitemap? Thanks in advance, H.
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00:47:28<TheTechRobo>Webuser623052: thank you for reaching out! There was some previous discussion here a couple of days ago about it (https://irclogs.archivete.am/archiveteam-bs/2026-04-24#l65670107), it looks like all the available stuff in the sitemap was archived then
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00:55:13<Webuser623052>Alright, I was the OP of the reddit post, but I had not reached here yet
00:55:17<Webuser623052>thanks
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01:00:45<Webuser623052>Can I ask how I might access all pages for which the links are broken, in the eventuality that the sitemap is taken down? I can do Wayback Machine but I do not know much more than that
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01:08:27<pokechu22>Webuser623052: Due to how XML sitemaps and XLST works, https://dictionaryofarchitectsincanada.org/page-sitemap.xml can't ever really look nice on web.archive.org. You can view all saved URLs from both this spammy version of the site and the old site at https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://dictionaryofarchitectsincanada.org/* though
01:09:46<pokechu22>er, https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://dictionaryofarchitectsincanada.org/node/* might be a bit more complete due to the 10k limit... but it's also not super helpful since the site didn't use slugs for the URLs, just numeric IDs...
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02:20:27<Webuser623052>Thanks a lot
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08:02:12<Paw-chivist>Hello ! :)
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09:06:18<gosc>I don't know where to post about this, there's this NHK documentary that will only be available until May 3: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/shows/5001509/
09:06:28<gosc>tweet about it: https://x.com/comiket_intl/status/2048556629592072686
09:06:28<eggdrop>nitter: https://nitter.net/comiket_intl/status/2048556629592072686
09:06:32<gosc>I already have it downloaded
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09:15:41<cruller>That page says "Available until April 25, 2027," doesn't it?
09:23:19<cruller>Come to think of it, their terrestrial TV and radio programs are available online for one week after they air.
09:23:52<cruller>However, I’m not familiar with NHK World Japan.
09:25:08<gosc>oh
09:25:39<gosc>well I don't know what to believe now
09:25:45<gosc>maybe the lower date
09:27:20<cruller>Well, if you’ve already downloaded it, there’s no need to worry.
09:29:31<gosc>eh I just remembered that there were some talks about NHK stuff here a while back and thought to mention it
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09:57:58<McAfee>Hello everyone again. I reconnected using XMPP transport, so connection should be stable now. So, if no one minds I'll duplicate my old messages, especially since they haven't been archived at irclogs for some reason.
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09:59:34<McAfee>[01:51] <iusearch_> Hello, gentlemen, I'm new here. I just learned, to my regret, that Microsoft has discontinued support for Bing Streetside, and now you can't view it from panoramas anywhere. However, I've found a temporary workaround that allows you to view panoramas (using api key found in unofficiial source). It's only available until June 2028, at best. https://i.ibb.co/B2gTB9kc/image.png
09:59:34<McAfee>[01:54] <iusearch> Is anyone interested in preserving all of this? Judging by the Reddit posts, I'm not the only one interested in viewing old panoramas. But I'm still new here and don't know where to start. My only current issue is probably a lack of hard drives, but that's solvable. I also moved to a foreign country and have limited internet traffic, which is mobile only. Plus, we don't yet know w
09:59:34<McAfee>hat the Bing rate limits are. I might still have time to download my hometown, but I'm not sure about the rest of the world.
09:59:34<McAfee>[01:54] <iusearch> https://www.reddit.com/r/bing/comments/1m1ly3s/where_is_streetside/
09:59:34<McAfee>[02:14] <iusearch_> this is an example of tile I managed to get https://i.ibb.co/YmJB6Dg/2026-04-27-01562222222222219.jpg
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10:00:37<McAfee>For geoguessur fans it somewhere here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/vdP9WrQx8tWrjvWA6
10:01:54<McAfee>If I should duplicate my message in #archiveteam or create an announcement let me know.
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12:05:21<Webuser815102>What's the best way to archive twitter posts with its media like videos etc? I see archives by the Twitter Archiving Project (https://archive.org/details/twitterarchive) preserve the media - is there a way for regular users to feed urls to that project or is that just for the people at IA?
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13:27:08<h2ibot>Klea edited Wikibot (-11, /* Queue Management */ !setqueue is no longer…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61218&oldid=60621
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13:29:00<klea>> If you are looking for files from Fileplanet that are not included in the public archives, email User:Schbirid with archived URLs that prove their previous availability to the public, e.g. via archived fileplanet.com pages. $Origin: <https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Fileplanet> $
13:29:23<klea>Wait, is that data on IA or is it only stored by [[User:Schbirid]]?
13:30:29<klea>Oh nvm, it says saved to IA in a non-public way.
13:35:09<h2ibot>Klea edited Fileplanet (-82, Use [[Template:IA id|]] and [[Template:IA item|]]): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61219&oldid=59282
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13:42:10<h2ibot>Klea created Category:File sharing (+53, Created page with "A category for projects…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?oldid=61220
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15:16:23<h2ibot>Justauser edited Deathwatch (+30, The end it in sight... yes... but not quite…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61221&oldid=61212
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15:34:20<moth3>Webuser247741: Regarding Sora, I did back up the entirety of keigo_matsumaru's videos and the associated metadata (aside from the gif previews and thumbnails). Had to do it through apify since I was running short on time and couldn't find anything else that would work. Still need to download the videos from there, but I can send you the videos and metadata if you're interested.
15:43:27<h2ibot>Manu edited Discourse/archived (+86, Queued linux.do): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61222&oldid=61214
15:46:27<h2ibot>Manu edited Discourse/archived (-86, linux.do is behind challenge): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61223&oldid=61222
15:47:28<h2ibot>Manu edited Discourse/active (+74, Add linux.do): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61224&oldid=61213
15:49:28<h2ibot>Manu edited Discourse/active (-31, linux.do was already in the list): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61225&oldid=61224
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18:26:49<h2ibot>Grandy02 edited Tripod (+398, Lycos posted another message): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61227&oldid=61198
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20:09:08<h2ibot>Bear edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+245, Added two exclusion dates.): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61230&oldid=61107
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20:20:09<h2ibot>Bear edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+194, wikimannia.org not excluded as of 2015-02-21.): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61231&oldid=61230
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20:39:42<klea>Silly idea.
20:39:58<klea>Instead of Deathwatch, we just use wikidata.org to shove in all sites that are/have/will shutdown.
20:40:09<klea>Small issues, not sure WMF will like it.
20:41:24<klea>McAfee: No "Bing Streetside" on Wikidata, however, there's "Bing Maps", https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q863756?useskin=vector
20:42:11<klea>And even the Wikipedia page for it is outdated.
20:43:12<h2ibot>Bear edited SpielAffe (+21, [[:Category:German]]): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61232&oldid=49554
20:43:45<McAfee>klea: well, bing streetside is a part of Bing maps, however it's not public anymore.
20:44:52<klea>Is https://blogs.bing.com/maps/2025-06/Bing-Maps-for-Enterprise-Basic-Account-shutdown-June-30,2025 their shutdown notice?
20:46:02<McAfee>klea: its basic free accounts. Not enterprise. https://i.ibb.co/B2gTB9kc/image.png
20:46:33<klea>Ah.
20:48:20<klea>Seems to have been noticed on OSM, https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/bing-streetside-discontinued/137189, and the most official-looking notice I could find is on https://blogs.bing.com/maps/2023-09/Routing-API-Breaking-Change-and-Retirement-Announcements
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20:49:14<McAfee>I received an Enterprise key unofficially. I think it's still possible to get one through resellers. But that requires non-Russian bank details.
20:50:21<klea>]
20:50:24<klea>Sorry.
20:51:46<McAfee>klea: https://www.onterrasystems.com/bing-maps-licensing/
20:52:05<McAfee>Seems like they still licensing Bing maps
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21:04:16<nicolas17>>Seems to have been noticed on OSM
21:04:24<nicolas17>huh, was there ever permission to use Streetside for OSM purposes?
21:04:31<nicolas17>I know Google Street View is off limits
21:04:38<klea>Dunno.
21:06:12<nicolas17>oh, there was permission, neat
21:07:09<nicolas17>"Further, we grant you the limited right to use Street Side imagery provided by the StreetSide API in read-only format solely as an additional source of corroborating ground truth within OpenStreetMap editing environments."
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21:17:30<McAfee>nicolas17: well yes there is possible problem with permission. But I think it worth it
21:18:01<nicolas17>McAfee: I was just curious why OSM people were worrying about this disappearing, if they weren't allowed to use it for OSM editing anyway
21:18:06<nicolas17>turns out, they were allowed :D
21:22:43<McAfee>nicolas17: btw, OSM disabled streetside in their api
21:22:59<McAfee>Oh, I mean in their ID map editor.
21:23:06<McAfee>not api :D
21:23:25<nicolas17>yeah, because it was shut down :P
21:24:01<klea>nicolas17: Did they later grant permission to use the next thing (Azure maps IIRC?), to OSM?
21:24:38<nicolas17>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/d/d8/Bing_license.pdf
21:24:51<klea>That sure sounds like an image.
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21:44:20<h2ibot>Bear edited YouTube (+1658, Added why the age of a video is not a guarantee…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=61233&oldid=60456
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23:14:21<McAfee>klea, nicolas17: look I tried to create pano http://dobrochan.lol:8080/pano4/
23:15:04<multisn8>Adding to the deathwatch right now
23:15:15<nicolas17>oh a cubemap, neat
23:15:47<McAfee>nicolas17: yes exactly
23:15:54<McAfee>multisn8: yay!
23:16:20<multisn8>Unable to find an authoritative source, I will use https://www.tomtomforums.com/threads/bing-maps-drops-streetside-view.35508/ and https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/bing-streetside-discontinued/137189
23:17:33<multisn8>Ah, should've read backlog

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