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00:24:18<klea>hexa-: am i worsening it by having a entirely different tree with only one commit in my fork?, i guess potentially?
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01:46:53<Anon>Telegram backfeed is on track to finish in a few hours, 5.67PiB is quite insane.
01:55:41<datechnoman>Which is pretty small for the size of it :O
02:06:13<eggdrop>[remind] TheTechRobo: mnbot queue thing
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05:18:16<Batlad>'Evening, I noticed the Telegram project running on a fresh warrior, version 4.2, is returning 100% failure rate on the WgetDownload step of every item it gets from the tracker. I keep seeing "[SSL: WRONG_VERSION_NUMBER]" in the logs of every item it tries. Is this an issue affecting everyone, or just me?
05:18:41<Batlad>Apologies in advance if this is known and has been discussed, I was unable to reference IRC logs
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06:08:52<pokechu22>stepney141: I'm a bit confused as to how the site is structured; https://tulipplantation.com/tulip-bbsmenu.html links to e.g. https://tulipplantation.com/tulip2025q4/ which seems to be empty?
06:09:54<nexussfan>There's a JS file there
06:09:57<nexussfan>https://tulipplantation.com/static/index.js
06:10:04<nexussfan>Short, but I'm not sure what it does
06:10:22<pokechu22>https://tulipplantation.com/tulipplantation/?m=subback&mode=archive uses https://tulipplantation.com/tulipplantation/thread/1764/subject.json and links e.g. https://tulipplantation.com/#tulipplantation/1764006388/ which loads from https://tulipplantation.com/tulipplantation/thread/1764/1764006388.dat
06:14:07<pokechu22>looks like that paginates through e.g. https://tulipplantation.com/tulipplantation/?m=subback&mode=archive&archive=1763 and https://tulipplantation.com/tulipplantation/thread/1763/subject.json
06:16:17<pokechu22>https://tulipplantation.com/static/read.js has `let threadfile = '/'+bbs+'/thread/'+key.substring(0, 4)+'/'+key+'.dat';` so I guess I just need to scrape all of the pagination for thread IDs and that should get *something*
06:17:15<stepney141>pokechu22: I’m also confused about the tulip-bbsmenu.html and not sure how it’s supposed to be used. I’ve just asked one of the site’s users how to view it.
06:23:55<pokechu22>https://tulipplantation.com/lounge/ has content in it, but it looks like everything loads from that one page so I'm just going to go through everything under tulip-bbsmenu.html manually
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07:10:42<cruller>https://fox-tools.pages.dev/tulipplantation-kakolog/ is listing all threads through some means.
07:14:31<cruller>When saving each thread, you should specify https://tulipplantation.com/test/read.cgi/{board_id}/{thread_id}/. URL fragments are a bit tricky.
07:17:22<cruller>The following boards must be read-only: tulip2023, tulip2024q1, tulip2024q2, tulip2024q3, tulip2024q4, tulip2025q1, tulip2025q2, tulip2025q3
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07:19:30<cruller>The following boards aren't read-only, but the threads on them are: tulip2025q4, greenhouselog, newstlog
07:25:30<cruller>The thread list can be generated based on https://fox-tools.pages.dev/tulipplantation-kakolog/, but ideally it should be fetched directly from https://tulipplantation.com/ itself.
07:28:34<cruller>The number of threads is approximately 260,000, and the deadline is December 31. That should be plenty of time for AB.
07:30:10<cruller>Anyway, I'll add tulipplantation (and a few other sites) to Deathwatch.
07:31:02<pokechu22>hmm, https://tulipplantation.com/test/read.cgi/tulipplantation/1760968878/ redirects, so I don't think that's super useful to save?
07:34:09<pokechu22>I do see https://tulipplantation.com/lounge/index.json?1764747173 -> https://tulipplantation.com/#lounge/1754908386/ -> https://tulipplantation.com/lounge/thread/1754/1754908386.dat though which I wouldn't have found otherwise
07:34:42<pokechu22>... oh, and https://tulipplantation.com/lounge/?m=subback&mode=archive also exists. Probably should have checked that
07:39:37<pokechu22>I don't think archivebot will extract URLs from https://tulipplantation.com/lounge/thread/1754/1754908386.dat
07:40:32<cruller>pokechu22: Yes, it definitely redirects to https://tulipplantation.com/#tulipplantation/1760968878. However, I think the redirect source information might be somewhat useful when playing it in WBM, for example.
07:44:26<pokechu22>I guess, but a quarter million redirects is somewhat expensive, especially since the site is slow. Archivebot wouldn't repeatedly save the redirect target due to the --no-parent rule at least
07:48:38<pokechu22>I think I've got a script that should list all threads (by checking https://tulipplantation.com/tulipplantation/thread/1764/subject.json etc for ranges from 1000 (corresponds to year 2000) to 1800 (corresponds to near future) for all of the boards, as well as https://tulipplantation.com/tulipplantation/subject.json). I'll run it tomorrow, since it seems like it will take a
07:48:40<pokechu22>few hours to run
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07:50:56<cruller>Understood. In that case, just https://tulipplantation.com/#{boards_id}/{threads_id} should be sufficient. Even if the redirect source information exists, links in WBM won't function properly anyway.
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07:52:52<pokechu22>Well, theoretically if https://tulipplantation.com/{boards_id}/thread/{threads_id[:4]}/{threads_id}.dat is saved, that should let the anchor-based one work, assuming nothing breaks the script
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08:15:53<cruller>Yeah, on 2ch-style BBSes, only the dat files are critical, IIRC.
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08:16:22<cruller>Additionally, some 2ch viewers have a dat file renderer.
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08:36:51<cruller>https://yay.boo/ Yay.Boo is staying alive. More details to come!
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09:12:13<h2ibot>Cruller edited Deathwatch (+900, Add Yay.Boo, Ponder, bms.social, and Tulip…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58214&oldid=58206
09:19:15<h2ibot>Cruller edited Mastodon (+99, /* Dead and dying instances */ update from…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58215&oldid=58059
09:20:17<cruller>atirclog++
09:20:17<eggdrop>[karma] 'atirclog' now has 1 karma!
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09:31:16<h2ibot>Cruller edited Deathwatch/Dead as a Doornail (+332, /* 2025 */ Add Zillow's climate risk scores): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58216&oldid=58144
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09:49:19<h2ibot>Cruller edited Deathwatch (+1, /* 2025 */ Template fix): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58217&oldid=58214
09:55:19<h2ibot>Cruller edited Distributed recursive crawls (-58, /* Candidates */ Remove energia.ru: It was…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58218&oldid=58190
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10:00:53<hexa->klea: hardly
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12:22:54<cruller>Oh, grab-site follows links in the dat files. Nice.
12:44:12<cruller>I ran grab-site on https://tulipplantation.com/#tulipplantation/1694683001 and dat files of random 1000 threads. Then, I was able to replay other threads as well. (using ArchiveWeb.page)
12:46:01<cruller>However, to play it back, you must directly enter https://tulipplantation.com/#tulipplantation/{threads_id} into the address bar.
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14:37:33<justauser>Re: NixOS cache, they also have this thread: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-s3-long-term-resolution-phase-1/36493
14:37:48<justauser>Might be worth something, if they ever reply.
14:38:23<justauser>I'm tempted so wait a bit and to copy the last message with a single digit changed.
14:38:40<justauser>*to
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14:41:48<justauser>!join #archivebot-alerts
14:42:09<justauser>Sorry.
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15:25:33<cruller>Does the shutdown of “TTN” on 2025-12-13 refer only to https://social.ttn.place/? Or does it include Tube, Promo, and Music?
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15:37:47<justauser|m>I'd guess it's complete.
15:37:49<justauser|m>"no longer possible to keep the TTN platforms running".
15:43:00<cruller>If that's the case, Tube and Music seem difficult too.
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16:36:22<h2ibot>Manu edited Discourse/archived (+99, Queued discuss.ropensci.org): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58219&oldid=58208
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16:39:22<h2ibot>Justauser edited DNS History (+904, Various updates and owner statements): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58220&oldid=51322
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16:54:57<klea>https://react.dev/blog/2025/12/03/critical-security-vulnerability-in-react-server-components
16:55:39<klea>i wonder if we should do anything about it
16:56:00<justauser|m>Like, exploit it on some website we want to archive?
16:56:18<klea>no
16:56:27<justauser|m>Get a shell and pipe the contents out without any ratelimits?
16:56:40<klea>oh that'd be funny but also not legal
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17:19:19<Webuser416877>Imgsrc down?
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17:38:11<twse167084>please add this Twitter account for Lukasz Wojcik to the page, List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine/Partial exclusions/Twitter accounts: twitter dot com/lukaszwojcik. the edits won't go through if I don't create an account!
17:49:44<twse167084>please add this website excluded in the Wayback Machine on a time basis: Online-Casinos dot com (no index after 2003 – the domain name has changed ownership in 2015). this website will be in the wiki page called List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine/Time exclusions.
17:54:41<twse167084>in the wiki page List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine/Partial exclusions, you have TWO TechPowerUp URLs (cpu-specs and gpu-specs) at the top, these should be sorted after thequietus.
18:02:02<twse167084>in the wiki page List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine/Partial exclusions/Twitter accounts, it would be appreciated if X could send me a complete list of accounts excluded from the Wayback Machine.
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18:27:54<twse167084>please add this URL to the wiki page Deathwatch/Dead as a Doornail: smilebook dot com in the year 2005. it was a Korean edutainment site that offered English content, ran in 2000–2004.
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18:34:02<nicolas17>oh god this guy is still going
18:35:43<justauser>Is this behavior sufficiently obnoxious to be bannable?
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18:49:55<icebergcharts>icebergcharts.com is shutting down
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18:56:05<justauser|m>Known I think?
18:56:09<@OrIdow6^2>!tell twse167084 What's the impediment to editing with an account?
18:56:10<eggdrop>[tell] ok, I'll tell twse167084 when they join next
18:56:46<@OrIdow6^2>Ah I see
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18:57:09<justauser|m>Digits change, so tells don't work.
18:57:30<justauser|m>And nobody really wants a realtime conversation.
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18:57:51<nicolas17>OrIdow6^2: they refused to explain that last time
18:58:06<nicolas17>they just said "no I won't make an account" and then demanded yet another change
18:58:42<justauser|m>icebergcharts: Saved in November.
18:58:55<steering>< twse400143> hey digital dragons! there might be reasons that I don't want to make my account, please somebody, do the edits!
18:59:53<steering>< twse833261> hey Chris! I don't want to create an account to edit the wiki pages... but please add these URL prefix to the wiki article "List of websi
19:00:41<steering>etc etc ad nauseam
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19:10:01<cruller>They also said "there are no reasons that I don't want an account being created." That's strange.
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19:49:55<h2ibot>Klorgbane edited Pomf.se/Clones (+390): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58221&oldid=57685
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19:59:49<pokechu22>cruller: when I tried it, archivebot didn't follow the links. Maybe it only follows some of them. I'm currently planning on doing an !ao < list job and then links can be extracted from the WARC instead
20:04:11<klea>is it a good idea to do the wiki changes proposed by twse* or better not?
20:18:35<DigitalDragons>You *can* but personally I find them refusing to make a wiki account and instead dumping what they want to happen in here as a problem for other people to be annoying/rude, so I wouldn't
20:25:36<klea>i wonder if chan ops could make a #archiveteam-wikieditreqs for people to send wiki edit requests, and do a forward ban for twse* to there
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20:41:51<SoyLuciano>I found a new website that is shutting down: https://icebergcharts.com/
20:42:15<SoyLuciano>It was very popular and as its name implies. a lot of iceberg charts were made there.
20:42:28<SoyLuciano>But unfortunately, they're planning on shutting it down.
20:44:42<SoyLuciano>And it's surprising Archive Team hasn't mentioned anything about th esite.
20:44:47<SoyLuciano>*that site.
20:45:17<nicolas17>it was saved in november
20:46:10<SoyLuciano>This applies to all icebergs, or just specific users?
20:49:24<masterx244|m>afaik anything that was being able to be caught without login
20:50:10<pokechu22>The specific list of URLs we saved is https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/augPZ/icebergcharts.com_links.txt
20:50:50<pokechu22>(along with a few other lists at https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=https%3A%2F%2Ficebergcharts.com for images and outlinks)
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22:32:18<@JAA>klea: Not for a single offender. We have the catchall #archiveteam-unregistered for people we don't want in the regular channels but that should still be able to reach us (e.g. tor-anon gets forwarded there, too).
22:33:21<klea>oh
22:34:24<@JAA>Anyone is free to join that channel if they don't mind seeing weirdness sometimes, though it's been very low-volume.
22:34:26<klea>JAA: i guess someone requesting wiki edits and not wishing to sign up isn't enough to get you sent to #archiveteam-unregistered right?
22:34:57<@JAA>If they keep going, I'll probably do that.
22:36:49klea wonders when they started to do that
22:37:32<klea>btw, JAA is it ok if i do make those edits (after checking that what they've given is accurate) and put something at the end of the edit msg description like #twse
22:37:34<@JAA>September, but there's been very large gaps between their visits.
22:37:40<klea>this year?
22:39:14<@JAA>Sure, if you want to deal with these requests, feel free to. A note in the edit message is fine, no note is also fine.
22:39:26<@JAA>Yes, 2025-09-19
22:39:41<klea>thanks (makes checking back later clearer)
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22:41:20<h2ibot>Klea edited URLTeam (+94, spotify.link state that users can make links…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58222&oldid=57801
22:41:43<klea>i'm not sure if for that edit i made it clear enough, i also updated the date since the example link seems to work
22:47:13<klea>more context: i think they do that so they can automatically redirect users to mobile apps, or else redirect to webapp, and also because open.spotify.com can be somewhat large, mostly because the ids aren't small (seem to be 22 chars), and the si parameters are also big (seem to not be static size but change, i saw 22 chars for album link, and 16 for random playlist i found
22:47:15<klea>on spotify)
22:47:57<klea>i wonder if i should make a spotify page to tell all about the quirks of spotify (such as the special user-personalized playlists and the likes) and have it link all the known genres i can find, or if i should not do that
22:50:58<@JAA>Something like https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/YouTube/Technical_details for other major platforms would be great!
23:02:16klea isn't up to writing that much
23:02:30<klea>but yes, i may make it later
23:02:43<klea>if i don't, poke at me in a month or so
23:02:49<klea>i should use taskwarrior properly
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23:03:45<@JAA>Yeah, it doesn't need to be that thorough. Just a good example of the kind of info that's useful to document.
23:06:33<klea>should i mark it as stub if it's not as long as that?
23:07:21<klea>i guess the mere fact of it saying hey, there are user-personalized playlists that the apis will return different based on logged in user, and spotify remakes those based on time on the page is better than not having anything, tho this message on irc is also information stored by AT
23:11:57<klea>hi atirclog :3
23:13:08<klea>i wondered what the log bot's username was, and instead of reading the channel list i grabbed it trough getting the names list for a few channels that i know the bot is in, and a few i know it's not in (doesn't appear on website) but have AT members, and then i noticed it as the first entry (i had to sort for `comm` to work)
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23:43:29<h2ibot>Wattmto edited Deathwatch (+208, Add CGI RESCUE): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58223&oldid=58217
23:45:30<h2ibot>Xiximillo created Spain (+333, Creating the page of Spain. with the most basic…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=Spain
23:45:31<h2ibot>Xiximillo edited Austria (+0, updating the population): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58225&oldid=54635
23:45:48<@arkiver>yay.boo is not shutting down anymore
23:46:16<@arkiver>i see it has been mentioned
23:46:23<@arkiver>also there's contact, but i won't go into specifics
23:46:35<nicolas17>was the wiki updated?
23:46:42<nicolas17>for yay.boo status

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