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00:52:50<@OrIdow6>!remindme 2w add realkalos to hoaxes
00:52:51<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2025-12-31T00:52:50Z
01:12:04<nicolas17>imer: wait so we lost more than 2 days of youtube?
01:21:23<@arkiver>nicolas17: we seem to have lost what we did in december :/
01:21:38<@arkiver>(if my understanding it right)
01:21:51<@arkiver>however we will requeue, but it does put us 2 weeks back
01:33:38<@arkiver>bufftoon project is started, no dedicated channel
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01:47:00<@arkiver>hexagonwin|m: how did you reach 150 GB? i don't think will become 150 GB
01:49:44<nstrom|m>drone needs poking for it if anyone has the power
01:50:29<@arkiver>can be done if JAA or imer are around
01:50:35<@arkiver>but... it's a tiny project, will be done very soon
01:50:59<nstrom|m>ok cool
01:51:05<nstrom|m>wasn't sure how much discovery would happen
01:51:20<@arkiver>not much
01:51:28<@arkiver>but i'm not sure where hexagonwin|m gets the 150 GB number from
01:51:36<nstrom|m>yeah we're zipping through it
01:53:14<@JAA>Drone's being poked.
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02:15:26<h2ibot>JustAnotherArchivist edited In The Media (-99, Undo revision 58653 by…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58657&oldid=58653
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02:31:06<that_lurker>interesting (AI) article
02:46:38<@arkiver>hexagonwin|m: some items could not even have their images saved fast enough in the Warrior, so i ran those in AB
02:47:25<hexagonwin|m>arkiver: idk, its the size browsertrix webui tells me/wacz files on disk
02:47:55<hexagonwin|m>maybe its much less than that?..
02:47:55<@arkiver>i'll be off for sleep now
02:47:59<@arkiver>looks like it's done
02:48:05<@arkiver>(see what i wrote earlier too)
02:48:15<hexagonwin|m>oh nice, thanks a lot
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03:21:06<nicolas17>if the problem was in the last 2 days, why did we lose 16 days of data? was the target *that* backlogged?
03:28:36<h2ibot>PaulWise edited Internet Archive/Save Page Now (+115, API docs): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58658&oldid=57809
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03:33:00<nicolas17>archiveteam-youtube hasn't received uploads since Dec 05?
03:37:37<h2ibot>PaulWise edited Internet Archive/Save Page Now (+359, Email API, other options): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58659&oldid=58658
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04:52:48<h2ibot>Hans5958 edited In The Media (+36, add section name): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58661&oldid=58657
04:54:48<h2ibot>Hans5958 edited In The Media (-36, add section name): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58662&oldid=58661
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05:52:03<Hans5958>"We hereby inform that the International College of Music (ICOM) [...] will cease administrative operations on 18th December 2026" https://www.icom.edu.my/
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06:39:02<h2ibot>Hans5958 created Bufftoon (+1268, Created page with "{{Infobox project | URL =…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=Bufftoon
06:39:03<h2ibot>Hans5958 edited Bufftoon (+6, Bold redirect): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58664&oldid=58663
06:40:03<h2ibot>Hans5958 created 버프툰 (+22, Redirected page to [[Bufftoon]]): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=%EB%B2%84%ED%94%84%ED%88%B0
06:42:03<h2ibot>Hans5958 edited Main Page/Current Projects (+140, Move elapsed to medium, add Bufftoon): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58666&oldid=58405
06:47:04<h2ibot>Hans5958 edited In The Media (-369, Unitalicise title (should be quotes instead,…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58667&oldid=58662
06:56:05<h2ibot>Hans5958 edited In The Media (+239, Some small fixes on titles, authors, sources, etc): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58668&oldid=58667
06:57:05<h2ibot>Hans5958 edited In The Media (+10, Some more of it): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58669&oldid=58668
07:00:05<h2ibot>Hans5958 edited Main Page/In The Media (+2151, Sync and put 20 since the page is long): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58670&oldid=58172
07:01:05<h2ibot>Hans5958 edited In The Media (-7, Fix names): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58671&oldid=58669
07:02:06<h2ibot>Hans5958 edited Main Page/In The Media (-7, Fix names): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58672&oldid=58670
07:03:06<h2ibot>Hans5958 edited In The Media (+110, Consistent spacing on syntax): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58673&oldid=58671
07:36:20<h2ibot>Hans5958 edited Main Page/Current Projects (+0, jjang0n done): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58674&oldid=58666
07:39:21<h2ibot>Hans5958 edited Bufftoon (+1, Fix typo): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58675&oldid=58664
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10:30:45<h2ibot>Cooljeanius edited Social network (+40, add some more from [[:Category:Microblogging…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58676&oldid=58630
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10:48:46<pabs>klea: any idea why this is missing a lot of pages now? https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Category:Software_archiving
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11:57:21<cruller>pabs: maybe because of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Common_errors_and_symptoms#Category_pages,_Special:Whatlinkshere_and_file_usage_aren't_being_updated
11:57:37<cruller>It has been fixed now.
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13:19:09<h2ibot>Nintendofan885 edited Bufftoon (+1, correct project for items repo): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58679&oldid=58675
13:38:02<Hans5958>Is Bufftoon done?
13:44:02<@arkiver>Hans5958: yes
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13:50:25<Hans5958>Ok, updating the wiki page
13:50:49<Hans5958>Saved or partially saved?
13:52:23<h2ibot>Hans5958 edited Main Page/Current Projects (+21, Bufftoon done): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58680&oldid=58674
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14:01:24<klea>pabs: caches work by caching things, and sometimes cache invalidations don't occur, that's why mediawiki has a thing called [[Special:Purge]]
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14:07:33<klea>cruller: i think that'd be unlikely since i cleared the cache around that time (i did it on my phone and couldn't irc from it), and i was able to view the pages on the Code (iirc) subcategory, which was added to some/most pages at the same time
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14:31:34<cruller>Hmm, MediaWiki is hard.
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14:39:30<h2ibot>KleaBot edited Main Page/In The Media (-1951, Updated from [[In The Media]]): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58682&oldid=58672
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14:41:56<klea>Hans5958: do you want me to make the bot put 20?
14:44:15<klea>i've put it as 20
14:44:31<h2ibot>KleaBot edited Main Page/In The Media (+2037, Updated from [[In The Media]]): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58683&oldid=58682
14:45:15<@arkiver>Hans5958: saved
14:46:48<Hans5958>klea: What is this "20" about?
14:47:14<klea>Hans5958: for the [[Main page/In The Media]] subpage
14:47:28<Hans5958>Yeah
14:47:30<klea>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Main_Page/In_The_Media&oldid=58670
14:47:31<h2ibot>Hans5958 edited Bufftoon (-5): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58684&oldid=58679
14:47:39<Hans5958>You could put it 20
14:47:48<klea>i made the bot put it as 20
14:47:55<klea>s/as //
14:47:59<klea>aaaa
14:48:04<klea>* put 20
14:49:23<klea>arkiver: should i try to restart the cleaning process thingy for the pages using [[Template:Navigation box]]? i believe i figured how to make my bot not wait
14:49:47<@arkiver>klea: "not wait" for what?
14:50:00<klea>before the bot waited between requests
14:50:21<klea>like about ~8s between one page edit and the next
14:50:38<@arkiver>that is fine i guess, either way, as long as the wiki is not overloaded
14:50:39<@arkiver>but
14:50:46<@arkiver>more important is if all the edits show up here
14:50:54<@arkiver>is that fixed? so the bot edits don't spam this channel?
14:50:58<Hans5958>Thanks for lmk that you automated that (and apologizes for not asking you)
14:51:04<klea>i believe JAA hasn't yet done thta
14:51:12<@arkiver>if that is fixed, i'd say let's go ahead - though JAA is more knowledgeable about our wiki
14:51:17<klea>2025-12-17 14:50:58 <Hans5958> Thanks for lmk that you automated that (and apologizes for not asking you) <- i stole JAABot's code and modified it
14:51:24<@arkiver>klea: let's wait then until JAA confirms those bot edits would not end up here
14:51:35klea wonders when JAA will get time to do that
14:52:08<Hans5958>Yeah but somebody needs to run that
14:53:10klea runs it manually every time she notices the pages the program checks against are updated
14:53:41<klea>well, i run for file in wikibot/*; do echo $file; pwb $file; done
15:04:59<justauser>cruller: There are only two hard problems in computer science: naming, cache invalidation and off-by-one errors.
15:05:29<klea>lol :p
15:06:15<klea>tbh i believe it could have been fixed on a more up to date version of mediawiki, but also, there's a pywikibot script called touch (that touches pages to clear the cache :p)
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15:24:04<cruller>justauser: searched and found there was also a “three” variant lol https://www.elektronauts.com/t/drop-your-best-one-liner-pun-quick-joke-here/193923/215
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17:18:57<NF885>BTW it might be a good idea to find out what the last Hacker News post archived by the URLs project was and queue the missed IDs
17:19:51<klea>add to that, if possible queue for the HN api the missing ids, and constantly add new ones once content is being added/updated
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18:34:43<nicolas17>is https://opensource.samsung.com/ down?
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18:35:08<gosc>nicolas17, I can view it just fine
18:35:18<justauser>Up for me.
18:35:57<gosc>I might've asked this a long time ago, but does archivebot capture from different user-agents?
18:36:10<nicolas17>ugh did they ban me
18:36:11<justauser>You can select from a few options.
18:36:21<nicolas17>I get a cloudflare error saying the origin returned error 520
18:36:53<justauser>Default is a self-identification string, Firefox, Chrome, Safari, curl, Googlebot...
18:37:11<justauser>IE and Edge.
18:37:49<justauser>nicolas17: Try cleaning cookies and reloading.
18:38:11<gosc>justauser, is googlebot smartphone or android available?
18:38:18<justauser>Sometimes this causes CF to juggle things.
18:38:19<nicolas17>same
18:38:51<justauser>gosc: No. I think if you need something custom, you have to poke someone with grab-site.
18:39:20<gosc>oh rip I really wanted some of this stuff on wayback
18:39:23<gosc>I have grab-site myself
18:39:28<justauser>(usually the person who receives a ping even on a mangled name)
18:39:38<justauser>How much?
18:39:54<justauser>SPN2 can change its UA.
18:40:01<nicolas17>gosc: well they mean "poke someone who can run grab-site and has permissions to upload the warc to WBM"
18:40:09<gosc>ohh
18:40:30<gosc>well I'm not sure, I don't have a list yet I just intend to do that; it's for Mobage
18:40:55<gosc>anything that needs login cookies I plan to keep a personal backup of
18:41:14<gosc>but anything publicly accessible well yeah I'll just give it here once I have that list
18:42:29<justauser>Hm, here is a test: "Main name of the first op when sorted alphabetically".
18:42:42<gosc>also, SPN2 is just curl/whatever I use to POST right?
18:42:50<justauser>Did it ping :) ?
18:42:54<justauser>gosc: ?
18:43:18<gosc>I'm sorry I don't follow?
18:43:25<gosc>though the mention of my name did ping yes
18:44:11<justauser>My full question is to the person I named in an awkward way, who is known to get a ping even on a mangled name.
18:44:24<justauser>My question mark means I stopped following you first.
18:44:47<justauser>"also, SPN2 is just curl/whatever I use to POST right?" <- ?
18:47:01<gosc>oh I meant using SPN2, the docs for it confused me before but reading it now it doesn't look too hard?
18:48:11<justauser>If you expect >200 pages, SPN2 is probably a wrong tool.
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18:49:28<gosc>oh okay, thanks; but it is useful to know
18:49:53<nicolas17>why not archivebot? scripty?
18:50:58<gosc>I think I really need more sleep sorry for confusing everyone
18:51:27<gosc>I'm interested in using SPN2 for random things
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18:51:42<gosc>for the user agent stuff I guess I'll just ask here when I have the list
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19:01:56<nicolas17>ok I'm pretty sure samsung banned me by IP
19:02:41<nicolas17>I'll have to crawl via tor again
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20:48:47<klea>justauser: i believe you can give a custom ua directly instead of using the "database" options too for UAs (the same way you would give custom ignores)?
20:49:52<klea>oh, justauser is trying to avoid saying archivist after just after another right?
20:50:16<@JAA>The one who shall not be named?
20:50:29<klea>lol
20:50:47klea pinged jaa by saying j archivist after
20:50:49<@JAA>AB has only UA aliases; grab-site has only UA strings.
20:51:07<klea>oh, i thought you could ask AB to archive with -u "meowmeow"
20:51:50<klea>nicolas17: inb4 AT-provided proxying to access opensource.samsung.com
20:54:13<klea>i wonder if we start naming JAA by a name such as the one who gets pinged even with a mangled name, if they'll add that to the ping list
20:55:16<@JAA>duh
20:55:44klea didn't understand what you meant
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