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02:04:50<Guest>how are sites that use request cursors archived? or like a ?after url parameter where you have to paginate
02:05:07<Guest>for sites that have a separate *-grab repository dedicated to just the project
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02:11:48<pokechu22>For archivebot, at least, that's not an issue so long as it only navigates forward and not backward, since the page with the cursor in it is what's written to WARC, rather than there being separate requests. I assume distributed projects work the same way
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02:20:02<@arkiver>Guest: not sure what you mean, custom project will just do whatever is needed to support the site
02:21:12<Guest>would something like this be ok? https://transfer.archivete.am/WHRYB/grab_cursor.txt
02:21:12<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/WHRYB/grab_cursor.txt
02:24:06<h2ibot>Nicolas17v2 edited Adobe Aero (+75, Update status, as far as I understand it.): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58226&oldid=58185
03:17:58<cruller>pokechu22: I checked https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/2025120307383512f24 too. Page requisites on other domains won't disappear immediately, but I'd appreciate it if you could archive them.
03:19:28<cruller>Btw, is that a difference between ludios_wpull and original wpull? That's interesting.
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03:27:14<@OrIdow6>Guest: Like arkiver says, do whatever needs to be done to support the site, that does look like it works (though you have a funky format and I'm not sure if colons are legal in item values)
03:27:21<@OrIdow6>Are you writing your own project Guest?
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04:09:31<Guest>OrIdow6: yes. this project is for roblox group archival (the deadline is nearing). i used colons because the telegram project uses the same format for encoding more information in values.
04:11:29<Guest>i finished pipeline.py but im at a roadblock with the lua (much more complex). if someone was available to help around 9 or 10PM UTC dec 4th that would be great.
04:13:59<nexussfan>Isn't there already a ROBLOX archiving discussion group at #robloxd ?
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04:24:31<@OrIdow6>Guest: Ah, just asking cause I've been burned a few times by Redis stuff that I didn't know about
04:28:04<Guest>nexussfan: yes but so far nobody has written anything for archival and there are new api changes in a week that will limit archiving
04:29:35<Guest>not really "limit archiving", but stricter rate limits along with removed access to group member data, followed by removal (permanent) of the main data which is group walls
04:35:25<@JAA>Further discussion about that potential project in #robloxd please.
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05:01:38<h2ibot>DigitalDragon edited Froogle (-35, #froogle appears to be abandoned, mark it as such): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58227&oldid=54439
05:03:57<DigitalDragons>That Froogle page feels like it could just be merged into the main Google page, is anyone opposed to that?
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07:18:29<twse166936>please add the Twitter account for Lukasz Wojcik excluded from the Wayback Machine, his handle is lukaszwojcik. his account will be added to the wiki page named List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine/Partial exclusions/Twitter accounts (list not sorted). the edits won't go through if I refuse to create an account!
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08:42:21<twse166936>please add the site We Heart It to the wiki page named Deathwatch/Dead as a Doornail. it was a social media site that hosted images and Wayback Machine excluded the site.
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09:05:12<twse166936>please remove the privacy policy and disclaimer links in the footer at the bottom, by editing LocalSettings.php (available as part of MediaWiki).
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09:33:29<Meta2025>Hi, I was wondering wether there are any plans to back-up huggingface.co. The AI technology is advancing rapidly and there might come a time when the big companies would want to shut down all open (locally run) alternatives, for example in a case where companies try to "sanatize" all their generators.
09:51:21<twse166936>hey everyone! I was wondering if there are any plans to download every single image from We Heart It, as a job would be done.
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10:21:26<h2ibot>Manu edited Mailman/2 (+159, Lost lists.emergingthreats.net): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58228&oldid=58194
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11:29:06<c3manu>!d 4grp6gjs8isyvw3lc7ffmi303 1500 2500
11:29:12<c3manu>ehehehe
11:37:37<h2ibot>Manu edited Mailman/2 (+65, Lost listserv.llnl.gov): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58240&oldid=58236
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15:25:04<klea>huggingface.co seems interesting idea
15:35:06<@imer>that's gonna be a mountain and a half of data..
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16:45:13<szczot3k>Did someone grab maxmodels.pl? https://www.maxmodels.pl/dziekujemy-ze-byliscie-z-nami,a,2568.html tldr; 5.6mln photos of amateur models portfolios will vanish on 20.01.2025
16:45:16<szczot3k>s/2025/2026
16:47:06<szczot3k>Maybe an AB job at least?
16:48:08<@arkiver>szczot3k: i'll put it in AB
16:48:12<@arkiver>maybe AB is enough
16:48:18<@arkiver>else we'll start a custom project
16:48:40<szczot3k>ack, will happily donate bw from poland if needed
16:49:25<szczot3k>feel free to @ me if any issues arrise
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16:50:49<twse035393>please add the url twitter dot com/lukaszwojcik to the Wiki page named List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine/Partial exclusions/Twitter accounts, and sort the users! the edits won't go through if I don't create an account!
16:51:22<@arkiver>twse035393: can you make an account and add it?
16:51:31<@arkiver>that would be a big help
16:51:53<twse035393>hey everyone! I don't care about creating an account, but the edits won't go through if I don't do this.
16:52:37<@arkiver>if you care about the edits, you should care about making them, which means you need to care about making an account
16:52:45<@arkiver>the wiki won't bite :) (maybe...)
16:54:16<twse035393>hey everyone! there might be a reason that the edits won't go through if I don't make an account.
16:54:40<@arkiver>interesting
16:54:53<@arkiver>twse035393: english is not your main language i take it?
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16:55:31<twse035393>my main language is Korean. but in the Wiki page named List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine/Time exclusions, consider adding Online-Casinos dot com (no index after 2003. the domain has changed ownership in 2015).
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16:55:47<klea>imer: yes that's true
16:56:12<@arkiver>klea: i don't see a project happening yet for huggingface
16:56:32<klea>yeah it'd probably also require IA's approval because of size, similar to for nixos cache and nixos tarballs s3 repos
16:56:48<@arkiver>what was the size of separate nixos stuff you mention?
16:56:52<@arkiver>i remember 700 TB
16:57:08<twse035393>hey everyone! please add the Invidious instance called inv dot nadeko dot net, which employs Anubis, into the Wiki page named Anubis/uncategorized.
16:57:56<klea>twse035393: hey, please register a wiki account, and be able to make the edits yourself?
16:58:26<twse035393>hey everyone! there would be reasons that I don't want to register a wiki account, as the edits won't be going through.
16:58:28<@arkiver>if you need help with making an account on the wiki, let us know
16:58:54<klea>yes, initially edits won't appear automatically, someone will moderate them
16:59:18<klea>if it's stuck on the queue, tell us the articles you edited, and ops here will try to see what's going on
17:01:01<@arkiver>or your account with be automoderated if you're edits look good
17:01:36<@arkiver>(i regularly come across spam, since LLMs spam edits are much more creative)
17:01:48<twse035393>consider sorting the two TechPowerUp specs URL prefixes in the wiki article named List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine/Partial exclusions at the top to the correct alphabetical order, these URLs do not have the trailing www before the domain. and all YouTube channel URLs should be sorted with the trailing www before the domain.
17:02:15<szczot3k>if needed I can hook the wiki with a bot to automatically sort those urls
17:02:37<klea>same
17:02:43<klea>i believe i can even run jaa's bot
17:03:41@arkiver prepares popcorn for the big bot-match where two bots try to sort a page in different orders
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17:09:26<szczot3k>Ok, I'd like to use bogosort for it
17:09:36<klea>oh lol
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17:18:19<@OrIdow6>I still don't completely understand what twse035393 is saying, but assuming that the automoderation *is* the issue could they be added to the list to let them edit preemptively in this special case? Then watched removed if they do start adding spam
17:19:41<twse035393>in the wiki footer, you should consider removing the privacy policy and disclaimer links, since the articles do not exist, you edit the LocalSettings.php file in any MediaWiki installation.
17:20:00<@OrIdow6>I'll guess they got frustrated by their edits seemingly disappearing into a void, and figured that people will at least see it here
17:20:29<@arkiver>OrIdow6: i regularly check this, it's not disappearing into a void
17:20:39<@OrIdow6>arkiver: Ah, huh
17:20:56<@arkiver>i don't know why they don't want to make an account
17:21:39<@arkiver>checking edits now, and i see nothing related to what twse035393 is mentioning
17:22:09<@OrIdow6>twse035393: We've discussed what you've said, and no one wants to make these edits for you unless you, especially because we don't know your reason. It just creates extra work for other people.
17:22:33<h2ibot>BouleBoule uploaded File:Fyt8szsh6eu31.jpg (Only known screenshot of mortis.com. Taken from…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3AFyt8szsh6eu31.jpg
17:23:20<@arkiver>latest edits are in :)
17:23:33<h2ibot>BouleBoule edited Mortis (+1884): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58254&oldid=49524
17:23:34<h2ibot>OCTAGRAM edited Talk:YouTube (+1760, /* Soft bans and anti-ban measures */ new section): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58255&oldid=54381
17:23:35<h2ibot>OCTAGRAM created Running Archive Team Projects with Proxmox VE (+6245, Installation guide): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=Running%20Archive%20Team%20Projects%20with%20Proxmox%20VE
17:23:36<@arkiver>i'm going to more easily make accounts automoderated
17:24:09<@arkiver>if anyone wants an automoderated account, please feel free to ping me (or JAA i think)
17:24:37<@arkiver>with LLMs nowadays one even needs to be careful about a few useful edits, and then the account turning into a spammer
17:25:53<@OrIdow6>Sad but true :(
17:28:58<twse035393>hey everyone! please add the site We Heart It to the Wiki page named Deathwatch/Dead as a Doornail. in 2023, they removed the ability to upload photos from their site, only allowing users to download their previously collected images.
17:29:44<@arkiver>this is starting to cross over to spam now
17:30:52<twse035393>hey everyone! please add the site smilebook dot com (Korean edutainment site that offered English content for visitors in 2000–2004) to the Wiki page Deathwatch/Dead as a Doornail, without specifying the month.
17:36:25<twse035393>hey arkiver and klea! please add the Twitter/X account lukaszwojcik to the wiki page List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine/Partial exclusions/Twitter accounts. there might be a reason that I don't want creating a new wiki account, as the edits won't go through.
17:38:38<chrismrtn>twse035393: Could you explain what you mean by "the edits won't go through"?
17:39:42<twse035393>hey Chris! I would explain that any edits won't be going through if I don't create a new wiki account, that would be great.
17:41:52<chrismrtn>twse035393: I'm afraid that we are having trouble understanding what you mean. Are you able to try to explain in Korean, and maybe machine translation will help us?
17:43:45<twse035393>hey Chris! I can explain them in Korean and have used machine translators, but I will not do this. but, in the wiki page "List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine/Time exclusions", consider adding Online-Casinos dot com (no index after 2003. the domain has changed ownership in 2015).
17:46:32<@JAA>Ok, that's enough.
17:46:36<h2ibot>KleaBot edited CurrentWarriorProject (-11, Removed redirect to [[Main Page/Current Warrior…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58257&oldid=56388
17:46:52<klea>what
17:47:01<klea>oh im stupid, it shouldn't have done that
17:47:04<klea>let me undo it
17:47:36<h2ibot>Exorcism edited Deathwatch (+336): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58258&oldid=58223
17:47:37<@JAA>klea: Not you
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17:48:37<h2ibot>KleaBot edited CurrentWarriorProject (+11, Re-add redirect, I didn't change JAA's scripts…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58259&oldid=58257
17:49:21<@JAA>arkiver: Yes, I had a wiki bot for sorting and a few other things, but it broke during a machine migration.
17:49:37<h2ibot>KleaBot edited Main Page/Current Warrior Project (+0): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58260&oldid=57792
17:49:38<klea>btw, my bot thingy is ran manually atm
17:49:53<@arkiver>JAA: got it :P
17:53:44<klea>i guess python environment with the packages broke?
17:56:35<@JAA>Good guess, but I don't think so.
18:03:51<@arkiver>JAA: should we kick for them to be redirected? ^
18:06:37<@JAA>arkiver: If we want it to stop immediately, yes. Their messages now only go to opped people, and they'll get redirected on the next join.
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20:17:56<jik>Hello. I am wondering if there are any known current issues with the ArchiveTeam Warrior docker images, because I'm having a ton of trouble the past few days and none of my troubleshooting steps have resolved it.
20:17:56<jik>I was using the ArchiveTeam Warrior 4.1 VM in VirtualBox. I usually briefly connect to the Warrior every day at http://127.0.0.1:8001/ to confirm that it's running, but otherwise I don't touch it.
20:17:56<jik>Yesterday when I tried to connect, the connection hung. I tried rebooting the Warrior VM, and immediately after the reboot I was able to connect, but then a little bit later it hung again. I tried running the docker images directly instead of the VM, and had the same problem. I shrugged and figured I would wait a day to see if it resolved itself.
20:17:56<jik>Today, same problem. I tried version 3.2 of the VM, same problem. I tried version 4.2 of the VM, same problem.
20:17:56<jik>Just for kicks I tried rebooting my router, didn't help.
20:17:56<jik>I'm on FIOS. My computer I'm running the Warrior on is a Linux box running Debian Trixie.
20:17:56<jik>Does any of this ring any bells for anyone? Any suggestions for how to debug it further?
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20:25:17<pokechu22>jik: You might want to also ask in #warrior
20:27:24<jik>👍
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21:34:13<h2ibot>Pokechu22 edited Deathwatch (+197, /* 2026 */ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ and…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58261&oldid=58258
21:40:14<h2ibot>Klea edited Sandbox (+23, test incomplete datetime): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58262&oldid=53102
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21:57:38klea wonders if it'd be ok to make the deathwatch page use datetimes in every entry, so that if someone puts a entry that's not in order, bots can reorder it
21:58:05<klea>would also make it easier to if we had a lot more entries, get a dump for specific date ranges
21:58:13<@arkiver>klea: yeah
21:58:26<@arkiver>we may also want to split deathwatch up at some point, at least into year pages
22:05:01<klea>oh fun
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22:13:28<@JAA>Yeah, it's getting pretty long. But it is convenient for searching.

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