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| 01:20:38 | <systwi_> | TheTechRobo: https://mnbot.very-good-quality-co.de/item/0c1acb3a-9d41-4a72-908d-bc55937c0fa5 |
| 01:21:09 | <systwi_> | The tooltip says "_lower_ priorities are run first," shouldn't it be the reverse, or am I understanding it wrong? |
| 01:21:42 | <systwi_> | Oh wait, I think I'm looking at it wrong. |
| 01:21:49 | <systwi_> | -10 is certainly lower than 10. |
| 01:22:15 | <systwi_> | Higher priority from a lower number. |
| 01:24:36 | <pokechu22> | It would be better phrased as "lower values are ran first" rather than saying priority |
| 01:25:49 | <systwi_> | Or, to split hairs a bit, "lower values are run first," as ran is past-tense. |
| 01:25:55 | <systwi_> | But yes I agree. |
| 01:26:24 | <systwi_> | (nothing personal, just an OCD thing--you should see me trying to write an e-mail for work!) |
| 01:28:00 | <systwi_> | Takes me like half an hour to ensure it's just-perfectly-so. |
| 01:32:06 | <@JAA> | Agreed on 'lower values'. My entire argument in #jseater about using niceness is to avoid the ambiguity of 'priority' because some systems are 'higher values first' while others are 'lower values first'. Niceness shouldn't have that ambiguity (higher value = nicer to other tasks = letting them take precedence). But that goes out the window when you describe it as 'lower priority' again. :-D |
| 01:49:13 | <TheTechRobo> | Right, that part of the dashboard came before JAA suggested 'niceness' |
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| 02:55:18 | <fuzzy80211> | nicolas17 i got SM-F7410_HKTW_16_Opensource twice (i think). uploading one now and refresh (so stranded) the other one |
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| 03:12:27 | <Webuser3959824321123123123122> | SORRY for not posting in write channel, am IRC noob! someone forward the word to #angelonfire but tripod servers are fully response atm |
| 03:12:33 | <Webuser3959824321123123123122> | wrong* |
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| 03:40:21 | <systwi_> | This feels very wrong, but is there an AT-hosted link shortener I can use? I'm sending URLs to #jseater and they exceed message length limits. |
| 03:41:06 | <@JAA> | No |
| 03:44:41 | <pabs> | anyone know which of the archiving services can do JavaScript based pages? https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Archive_Services |
| 03:45:01 | <pabs> | TIL GNOME are switching from Anubis to Fastly's bot protection: https://discourse.gnome.org/t/gnome-gitlab-bot-management-migration-to-fastly/34358 |
| 04:01:55 | <pabs> | systwi_: probably wait until Mnbot has a native !bulk and then do it with that |
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| 04:26:23 | <nicolas17> | fuzzy80211: resetting SM-F7410_CHN_16_Opensource.zip to unclaimed |
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| 04:27:45 | <h2ibot> | Systwi edited URLTeam (+975, /* Alive */ Added s.42l.fr.): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60695&oldid=60277 |
| 04:31:48 | <systwi_> | I could, but I'm not entirely sure when that may happen (not judging I promise), and pages could die in between that time. |
| 04:33:18 | <pokechu22> | If there's a specific page that's sufficiently interesting, you could probably redirect to it using custom JS (requires op) or I guess anyone else's URL shortener. I don't think it's been an issue so far though |
| 04:34:19 | <systwi_> | I was thinking on potentially using https://s.42l.fr/ and creating a shortlink for each problematic URL. |
| 04:35:01 | <systwi_> | Anything wrong with shortening and running through #jseater or are there more/different steps I should do? |
| 04:36:09 | <pokechu22> | It wouldn't be viewable when searching by URL/domain, but that's not implemented yet anyways |
| 04:37:04 | <systwi_> | I instantly thought, oh! https://s.42l.fr/shortlinkid#originallongurlthatswaytoolong, but would make matters worse, heh. |
| 04:37:30 | <pokechu22> | If this is the https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fselect-type.com%2Fp%2F%3Fp%3Dq9r_egVr0hA&h=AT62OrX8qwVdxVNk URL though I think that's just a tracking URL and most of it doesn't matter? I think that just corresponds to https://select-type.com/p/?pq9r_egVr0hA (which redirects to the home page?) |
| 04:38:16 | <pokechu22> | Doing something like that with the domain could work (I sometimes do that for searchability on archive.fart.website) |
| 04:39:02 | <systwi_> | That's one of them, yeah. I'm trying to get outlinks one level deep on some of my #jseater jobs. |
| 04:40:57 | <systwi_> | My other thought, while still not _that_ nice, is to keep a basic database (was thinking RFC 4180-compliant CSV) that tracks shortlink and original URL, which might be helpful down the road once URL/domain searching is implemented. |
| 04:41:17 | <pokechu22> | or a native way of doing recursion |
| 04:41:48 | <systwi_> | Yeah, true. That would solve my current predicament. :-P |
| 04:42:39 | <pokechu22> | When I've done that recursion myself I generally limited it to onsite URLs as well because everything else could be thrown into archivebot or just wasn't interesting |
| 04:43:37 | <systwi_> | That's a good point too, at least the AB part (I like to make it complete where possible/reasonable). |
| 04:44:41 | <systwi_> | All of mine pending are either https://l.facebook.com/ or https://www.facebook.com/. |
| 04:45:50 | <pokechu22> | For those I'd trim off the tracking junk when running in #jseater and then maybe also save the tracking version in archivebot as an !ao < list (or just do nothing with it). But I also have facebook /etc/hosts-blocked |
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| 04:57:47 | <Nekroschizofrenetyk> | https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Archiwum_Allegro - the status should be updated, the site is gone |
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| 05:07:48 | <pabs> | might be good for you to register an account Nekroschizofrenetyk :) |
| 05:09:37 | <Nekroschizofrenetyk> | you mean on the wiki? I have one, though I'm cautious of editing (I tried editing some AB-related things and wondered why there are no changes before I noticed, the tables with sites to save are updated automatically) |
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| 05:18:17 | <Nekroschizofrenetyk> | @pabs or the IRC? If IRC, well, I don't know how :D |
| 05:18:37 | <pabs> | the wiki |
| 05:19:40 | <Nekroschizofrenetyk> | aaa |
| 05:19:42 | <pabs> | or for IRC https://hackint.org/services#NickServ |
| 05:20:06 | <Nekroschizofrenetyk> | Oh! |
| 05:20:09 | <Nekroschizofrenetyk> | thanks! |
| 05:21:11 | <pabs> | re the editing issue you mention, probably whatever bot updates the page is temporarily inactive, or dead or something |
| 05:21:21 | <pabs> | which pages? |
| 05:23:03 | <Nekroschizofrenetyk> | "... is not a valid email address." it doesn't seem to support proton, hmmm |
| 05:24:33 | <Nekroschizofrenetyk> | pabs I'm not sure, if it's dead but there seems to be a missed functionality - pages like https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/ArchiveBot/Governments/Sudan |
| 05:24:48 | <Nekroschizofrenetyk> | I tried to change the status of 404 websites as "Lost"\ |
| 05:24:56 | <pabs> | maybe ask in #hackint about that |
| 05:25:50 | <Nekroschizofrenetyk> | sure, maybe has something to do with 'This method is deprecated and will become unavailable in 2026-02. We recommend migrating to SASL PLAIN instead.' |
| 05:27:54 | <pabs> | yeah the HadeanEon bot that edits that wiki page is dead on and off over the years. it isn't active right now |
| 05:28:23 | <pabs> | its probably fine to do it manually though |
| 05:29:05 | <pabs> | your edits might be moderated though |
| 05:30:15 | <Nekroschizofrenetyk> | usually on wikis, it shows, like '1 change is waiting for approval' or something |
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| 17:30:54 | Topic set by AlsoJAA at 2025-09-09 18:44:47Z | |
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