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| 00:20:42 | <hexa-> | JAA: are y'all really interested in what we consider the ultimate garbage? |
| 00:21:14 | <hexa-> | like, these are not a) sources b) things one would actually consume on a system |
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| 00:35:38 | <hexa-> | these are c) old installer isos and d) old system images used in nixos tests and their reverse dependencies |
| 00:43:40 | <hexa-> | JAA seen wolf |
| 00:43:42 | <hexa-> | probably |
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| 01:18:37 | <h2ibot> | Cooljeanius edited Archive.today (+315, /* Vital Signs */ mention Wikipedia controversy): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60534&oldid=60499 |
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| 01:24:58 | <pokechu22> | hexa-: Isn't the whole goal of nix to be reproducible, too? In which case those could all be regenerated later if they turned out to somehow be important? |
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| 01:59:48 | <h2ibot> | PaulWise edited Deathwatch (+262, update cyberhome info): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60535&oldid=60463 |
| 02:00:06 | <@JAA> | hexa-: Installers sound potentially interesting. Tests perhaps less so, yeah. |
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| 02:00:14 | <@JAA> | (And traitor, not wolf) |
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| 02:15:17 | <pabs> | anyone here read Japanese? I'm not sure if the Firefox machine translation is correct, but it sounds like cyberhome are shutting down their old web hosting (www.a{a,b,c,d}.cyberhome.ne.jp/~example/) and setting up a new one (example.web.cyberhome.ne.jp) |
| 02:15:44 | <pabs> | https://www.cyberhome.ne.jp/oshirase/20250916.html |
| 02:17:06 | <@JAA> | Yep, someone already reported it to #webroasting earlier. |
| 02:17:22 | <@JAA> | (Er, here, and it was relayed there.) |
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| 02:48:40 | <Webuser720304> | Could you archive web sites hosted by CYBERHOME ISP? The ISP is migrating its hosting service to the new system which uses domains like "example.web.cyberhome.ne.jp". |
| 02:49:33 | <katia> | Webuser720304: do you have a list of domains perchance? or any way to get one? thanks for letting us know |
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| 02:52:53 | <Webuser720304> | I would like you to archive web sites hosted on the previous servers: "www.aa.cyberhome.ne.jp", "www.ab.cyberhome.ne.jp", "www.ac.cyberhome.ne.jp", and "www.ad.cyberhome.ne.jp". |
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| 03:00:30 | <Webuser720304> | I would like to state that web sites hosted by the new system using subdomains like "example.web.cyberhome.ne.jp" are not going to be deleted. |
| 03:09:40 | <Webuser720304> | Additionally, would you see that your ArchiveBot instances can access web sites hosted by land.to? |
| 03:14:38 | <Webuser720304> | I think that the service may restrict access from outside Japan because I have observed that access to a web site hosted by land.to using VPN is redirected to the 404 error page "https://error.fc2.com/other/" even though the web site is still available. |
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| 03:16:58 | <h2ibot> | PaulWise edited Deathwatch (+57, clarify cyberhome shut down): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60536&oldid=60535 |
| 03:17:18 | <pabs> | Webuser720304: do you know if there is a list of individual websites on the old cyberhome hosting system? |
| 03:17:45 | <pabs> | Webuser720304: do you have an example land.to site that we can check? |
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| 03:32:05 | <Webuser720304> | pabs: Sorry, but I cannot provide you with a list of the web sites on the old CYBERHOME hosting system. |
| 03:33:48 | <pabs> | I tried one land.to site but AB could not save it http://seoul.cs.land.to/ |
| 03:34:38 | <pabs> | tried a few more with similar results |
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| 03:37:57 | <cruller> | IIRC, Googlebot UA is required for other fc2web services? |
| 03:37:59 | <Webuser720304> | pabs: Could you access "http://jyumokuzukan.cs.land.to/"? I should be able to access almost all the web sites hosted by land.to. |
| 03:38:56 | <pabs> | googlebot UA didn't work for http://jyumokuzukan.cs.land.to/ |
| 03:39:18 | <pabs> | it got a 302 to a 404 |
| 03:41:11 | <pabs> | mnbot got the same in #jseater |
| 03:41:20 | <pabs> | trying with -u stealth |
| 03:41:37 | <cruller> | It seems so. I'll read logs of #forbiddencravingcenter. |
| 03:41:52 | <Webuser720304> | I can access the contents of the web site on "http://jyumokuzukan.cs.land.to/". The web site is written about trees in Japan. |
| 03:42:09 | <pabs> | archive.org SPN can't save http://jyumokuzukan.cs.land.to/ either |
| 03:42:25 | <pabs> | archive.today gets the same error too |
| 03:42:34 | <pabs> | my browser can reach it fine though |
| 03:43:38 | <pabs> | #jseater failed with -u stealth too https://mnbot.very-good-quality-co.de/item/711cf4ed-a241-4d00-ab9c-ccda88aab29c |
| 03:44:13 | <pabs> | my guess is it requires a residential IP to work |
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| 03:58:22 | <Webuser720304> | Megalodon.jp seems to be able to archive web sites hosted by land.to. (https://megalodon.jp/2026-0222-1255-09/jyumokuzukan.cs.land.to/) |
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| 04:10:20 | <tzt> | Japanese musicians Misskey instance otoskey.tarbin.net is shuttiing down today 2026-02-22 |
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| 04:34:44 | <pabs> | thats scripty tzt |
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| 04:43:51 | <pabs> | tzt: do you know if tanukey (the codebase that uses) is at risk too? |
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| 04:48:44 | <pabs> | saving their bandcamp and fansite https://weloveotoskey.bandcamp.com/ https://weloveotoskey.wixsite.com/we-love-otoskey |
| 04:52:12 | <cruller> | As long as Novelskey continues, Tanukey will likely continue too. |
| 04:52:27 | <cruller> | Archiving an entire Fediverse server is difficult, but it might be worth SPN/mnbotting some important pages. |
| 04:52:36 | <cruller> | However, it's unclear which pages are important. |
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| 04:56:18 | <pabs> | I did / /about /about-tanukey |
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| 04:57:55 | <cruller> | <cruller> "However, it's unclear which..." <- Home page, ToS, privacy policy, release notes, well-known resources, server stats, etc? |
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| 05:02:11 | <pabs> | did AB all the well-known |
| 05:02:33 | <pabs> | did SPN/mnbot/archive.today for /signin /signup |
| 05:02:49 | <pabs> | can't find any other clickable things that change the URL |
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