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| 01:01:32 | <ericgallager> | has anyone archived Zillow's climate risk scores? https://bsky.app/profile/volts.wtf/post/3m6upiqs67k2c |
| 01:04:54 | <pokechu22> | IIRC zillow is pretty anti-scraping |
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| 01:18:01 | <nicolas17> | looking at parti-livestream |
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| 01:19:09 | <nicolas17> | listing taking me 1 second per page ugh |
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| 01:21:47 | <nicolas17> | 200k files and I don't know how far I am |
| 01:23:33 | <nicolas17> | there are duplicated filessss |
| 01:24:03 | <@JAA> | I once listed a bucket that took almost two months and produced a couple hundred GB of compressed JSONL. Yep, that's how it goes. :-) |
| 01:24:39 | <nicolas17> | example (2MB): |
| 01:24:40 | <nicolas17> | c20d4d80a75defb0364ca43f14486f58cd210597 423581_557ce44a-1597-4555-8221-557bec85c2f0.png |
| 01:24:41 | <nicolas17> | c20d4d80a75defb0364ca43f14486f58cd210597 423581_713af7b0-2fbd-43ef-a963-d9821cf2a95a.png |
| 01:25:02 | | @JAA pretends to be surprised. |
| 01:25:19 | <@JAA> | .png sounds like it might be a thumbnail or similar? |
| 01:26:39 | <nicolas17> | https://media.parti.com/423581_713af7b0-2fbd-43ef-a963-d9821cf2a95a.png (bad content-type) |
| 01:28:03 | <nicolas17> | ...really curious what that decimal number before the uuid means |
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| 01:29:57 | <nicolas17> | 1 million files, 630GiB, still going |
| 01:30:19 | <@JAA> | Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if this were pretty big, especially if it's HLS with segments. |
| 01:30:43 | <nicolas17> | so far it's all images |
| 01:30:44 | <nicolas17> | ??? |
| 01:34:41 | <@JAA> | I just found that netcup employs Anubis, by the way. Custom message 'This site is protected by <a href="https://www.anexia.com/">ANEXIA</a>.' and the anime girl image is a slow 403. |
| 01:38:51 | <nicolas17> | 1TiB |
| 01:40:24 | <nexussfan> | JAA: custom versions of anubis exists, but AFAIK they all use .within-website |
| 01:42:19 | <nicolas17> | oh god I got to the video streams, this is huge |
| 01:45:19 | <nicolas17> | /channels contains 298 dev-channel-<id> subdirectories which seems... strangely low? |
| 01:47:00 | <nicolas17> | "the web3 creator economy & live stream platform" okay having <300 active users makes more sense now |
| 01:47:42 | <nicolas17> | how come they're using google cloud storage instead of filecoin? :P |
| 01:52:18 | <mystique_altrosky> | cause they need something that actually works |
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| 02:26:16 | <nicolas17> | list has been running for an hour, 7M files, 5.2TiB, still going |
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| 02:26:43 | <nicolas17> | I started from scratch on my VPS which has better latency to google, I'm optimistic it will catch up with my local PC long before it finishes |
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| 03:04:10 | <nicolas17> | 21M files, 17.6TiB, still going |
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| 03:15:56 | <nicolas17> | I estimate 60TB but I could be way off |
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| 03:24:23 | <h2ibot> | BlankEclair edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine/Partial exclusions (+55, …): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58207&oldid=58146 |
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| 03:59:21 | <nicolas17> | ok finished channels/ and it seems there's more directories, so all bets are off now |
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| 04:01:19 | <@JAA> | Welcome to S3 bucket listing. |
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| 04:17:59 | <nicolas17> | https://storage.googleapis.com/parti-livestream/?prefix=ivs 9% on this directory now |
| 04:23:05 | <nicolas17> | anyway I'm not sure if archiving this is feasible or useful |
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| 04:24:04 | <nicolas17> | by the time I'm done running the list, some videos from >30 days ago may have gotten removed, and there may be some new ones |
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| 04:24:15 | <nicolas17> | I think *live* streams are in this same bucket even (so new HLS segment files are being added every 2 seconds) |
| 04:30:38 | <Guest> | nicolas17: ive seen that livestreams have ids assigned to them (maybe sequentially?), so i think it might have something to do with that |
| 04:31:10 | <nicolas17> | <nicolas17> ...really curious what that decimal number before the uuid means |
| 04:31:15 | <nicolas17> | I suspect it's the *user* ID |
| 04:31:27 | <Guest> | also possible |
| 04:31:48 | <nicolas17> | because under channels/ there's 300 directories with similar numbers, each of them having multiple videos with a timestamp |
| 04:32:02 | <nicolas17> | so that number is the user/channel ID, not the video ID |
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| 04:39:59 | <Guest> | only 300? |
| 04:40:34 | <nicolas17> | <nicolas17> "the web3 creator economy & live stream platform" okay having <300 active users makes more sense now |
| 04:40:42 | <Guest> | thats like what kick.com tried to do with twitch |
| 04:41:29 | <nicolas17> | note that if a user hasn't streamed in the last month (so saved streams already expired) and/or doesn't save stream recordings, I won't see the directory as existing at all |
| 04:41:41 | <Guest> | imo theres not much of a point in archiving (especially if theres only 300 channrls) |
| 04:41:49 | <Guest> | i thought the bucket was a lot smaller |
| 04:42:24 | <nicolas17> | I don't even know what's in ivs/, maybe it's similar to "clips"? in which case there's a *ton* |
| 04:42:57 | <Guest> | what are the file formats? |
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| 04:48:43 | <nicolas17> | HLS |
| 04:48:56 | <nicolas17> | might be they used a different system for past streams |
| 04:49:01 | <nicolas17> | ivs might mean https://aws.amazon.com/ivs/ |
| 04:54:37 | <nicolas17> | maybe the last month of streams is in channels/<id>/archive/<timestamp> but older stuff is in ivs? maybe they migrated systems around that time? 2025/10/27 is the most recent timestamp I see in ivs |
| 04:57:40 | <Guest> | parti was founded in 2017 and ivs was created in 2020, unless they changed the architecture since then (the site is really empty for an 8 year old company) |
| 04:59:46 | <Guest> | its kind of pointless whether they used ivs or not though |
| 05:02:07 | <nicolas17> | it seems ivs/ has stream recordings older than ~2025-10-27... whether they changed systems at that date, or they move them there after a month, doesn't really matter |
| 05:03:44 | <nicolas17> | either way my extrapolation so far says ivs/ is 100TB :p |
| 05:05:26 | <nicolas17> | and considering https://tracker.archiveteam.org/twitch/ was 550TB... |
| 05:06:22 | <Guest> | based on https://ivs.rocks/calculator i dont think they would use ivs |
| 05:06:40 | <nicolas17> | ah well that's for streaming |
| 05:06:53 | <nicolas17> | when the stream is over you can shove it into a regular S3 bucket |
| 05:12:11 | <nicolas17> | paying for 100TB of GCP storage is still no laughing matter tbh |
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| 05:31:23 | <nicolas17> | Guest: does 1508 users sound more reasonable? |
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| 07:26:12 | <gosc> | I can just make a page for the wiki right? I want to add Microsoft Store on there |
| 07:26:29 | <gosc> | it could also be a project in the future, like chrome extensions |
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| 11:38:42 | <Webuser446493> | Hi. May I ask for this site to be archived? http://www.whhansu.com. This is a contractor related to the big HK fire and want to preserve evidence related to the fire before they start deleting. |
| 11:38:43 | <Webuser446493> | [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp34yk7z6yxo |
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| 11:50:49 | <@JAA> | Webuser446493: I've started an ArchiveBot job for it. |
| 11:53:41 | <Webuser446493> | Thank yuo |
| 11:53:43 | <Webuser446493> | Thank you! |
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| 12:09:44 | <h2ibot> | Manu edited Discourse/archived (+100, Queued forum.sublimetext.com): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58208&oldid=58196 |
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| 13:44:59 | <nicolas17> | parti listing took ~7 hours |
| 13:45:39 | <nicolas17> | 174523 GiB, 197M files |
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| 15:03:58 | <Bestest> | Apologies if this is the wrong channel to ask; in regards to https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Fileplanet https://archive.org/details/archiveteam-fileplanet , is there any better way to get in contact with Spirit besides their email? |
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| 15:04:23 | <Bestest> | They did respond eventually, but it took 3 months and as a result I missed it at the time. I was wondering if there was any better place to communicate with them |
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| 15:15:16 | <h2ibot> | Manu edited Discourse (+43, Active Discourses: Add GitLab Forum): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58209&oldid=57815 |
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| 19:56:36 | <phuzion> | Hey, I noticed this: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Running_Archive_Team_Projects_with_Docker#Can_I_run_a_Docker_container_on_ARM_or_some_other_unusual_architecture? Is there a bug that I can follow somewhere in case this endianness issue does get resolved? |
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| 20:30:05 | <@JAA> | phuzion: Probably https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/warrior-dockerfile/issues/56 |
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| 20:57:24 | <phuzion> | JAA: Thanks, subscribed! |
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| 21:49:49 | <nicolas17> | phuzion: well ARM has the same endianness as x86 |
| 21:50:26 | <nicolas17> | the issue is more "if we *know* it broke due to big endian in the past, there may be other arch-specific bugs that we don't know about" |
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| 22:02:02 | <Guest> | nicolas17: depends on the duration and resolution of each stream |
| 22:02:58 | <nicolas17> | Guest: sorry I meant if "1508 users" sounds like a more realistic number than "300 users" |
| 22:03:07 | <nicolas17> | in terms of archival it makes things worse :P |
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| 22:27:20 | <Guest> | for 1508 users thats 115GiB/user |
| 22:28:24 | <Guest> | based on https://snxpstudio.co/resources/video-file-size-calculator/ @ 1080p, 30fps, H.264, 8mbps ("default") video bitrate, stereo sound, 192kbps ("default") audio bitrate, and 3h of video thats 10.79GiB/video |
| 22:30:29 | <Guest> | so like 10 videos/user, but theres only 25 live right now |
| 22:31:48 | <Guest> | i think the number of active streamers is a lot lower and maybe a few hundred for people who tried it out on a few streams and quit |
| 22:33:20 | <Guest> | so tl;dr there may be 1508 users, but there definitely isnt 1508 streamers |
| 22:37:59 | <@arkiver> | Guest: is this going away? |
| 22:41:08 | <nicolas17> | arkiver: my understanding is: "I found this open bucket, can we archive it?" "seems it has stream VODs and it's 100TB" "oh x_x nevermind" |
| 22:45:01 | <@arkiver> | right yeah |
| 22:45:32 | <Guest> | no the parti website isnt shutting down soon |
| 22:45:53 | <Guest> | i think nicolas17 explained it well |
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| 23:05:15 | <klea> | JAA: should i mark AT-github/warrior-dockerfile#56 as a <ref> on some part of that page? |
| 23:05:26 | <klea> | ig no point in not doing so |
| 23:05:59 | <klea> | Guest: preferably not say you subscribed (it could be spammy) |
| 23:08:01 | <Guest> | what? |
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| 23:08:30 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited Running Archive Team Projects with Docker (+113, /* Can I run a Docker container on ARM or some…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58210&oldid=56992 |
| 23:08:44 | <klea> | Guest: sorry, i thought you said https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/warrior-dockerfile/issues/56#issuecomment-2314348097 |
| 23:09:07 | <Guest> | oh ok |
| 23:09:22 | <klea> | it'd be neat if someone marked it as spam, but idk who can :( |
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| 23:14:30 | <h2ibot> | Nicolas17v2 edited 짱공유닷컴 (+1, update rate limit): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58211&oldid=57883 |
| 23:21:37 | | klea is thinking of maybe setting up her own irc logger if AT authorizes, which would collect private irc logs, usable by current ops (i would give a bunch of passwords to one of the current ones, who would then be able to share one with each user who wants or smth), and would potentially have a way for authorized people to tell the bot to join, leave, or make channel |
| 23:21:39 | | klea logs (or sections) public |
| 23:24:28 | <nicolas17> | we have https://irclogs.archivete.am/ |
| 23:24:31 | <klea> | i'll likely make a channel specific for that bot, and then give !archiveteam-core +*SF, and !archiveteam-ops +v, making a log public, or asking the bot to archive logs for a channel on archive.org, would require +o access |
| 23:24:39 | <klea> | but that doesn't archive projects |
| 23:24:42 | <klea> | which was most of the idea |
| 23:24:51 | <@JAA> | We don't want to log project channels. |
| 23:25:03 | <nicolas17> | if we wanted to log project channels, we might as well add that bot to more channels rather than set up a whole new logger |
| 23:25:05 | | klea wonders why it wouldn't be ok to log them and publish them ONLY after the website is dead |
| 23:25:09 | <klea> | yeah true |
| 23:25:17 | <@JAA> | Yeah, it'd be a one-line diff to add it. |
| 23:25:29 | <@JAA> | (+ a git push and a SIGUSR1) |
| 23:25:43 | | klea wonders where the source code for that is |
| 23:25:52 | <klea> | wait, JAA it's using h2ibot ? |
| 23:26:18 | <@JAA> | Not quite, but close. It's based on the same code. |
| 23:26:49 | <klea> | is it public?, i guess no |
| 23:26:53 | <@JAA> | https://gitea.arpa.li/ArchiveTeam/irclog |
| 23:27:29 | <klea> | oh nice |
| 23:32:17 | <klea> | btw, if y'all have any discord cdn urls and don't have a valid expiry thingy, you can send it trough discord, and it creates a updated expiry time, if wanted i can try to create webhooks or smth to have something to be able to make accesible urls |
| 23:33:04 | <nicolas17> | DigitalDragon: https://fixit.digitaldragon.dev/ fix it D: |
| 23:33:14 | <klea> | lfmao |
| 23:38:12 | <klea> | oh, im stupid |
| 23:38:19 | <klea> | i was wondering what the bot's name was |