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| 01:17:38 | <pabs> | datechnoman: got any URLs for *.in-addr.arpa *.ip6.arpa ? for https://cabforum.org/2025/11/10/ballot-sc-086v3-sunset-the-inclusion-of-ip-reverse-address-domain-names/ |
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| 10:12:15 | <Guest> | does urls-grab only get websites on the public internet (not tor)? |
| 10:15:51 | <@imer> | Guest: yep |
| 10:22:55 | <Guest> | then how did the warrior end up downloading CSAM? this isnt something i ran into but someone posted about it happening to them in #archiveteam. like what would have happened if it was a residential connection vs hetzner? i wouldnt want my door busted down for running an AT project D: |
| 10:26:02 | <@imer> | as far as we can tell, it's a honeypot - so maybe a site that was previously csam related. urls does grab the front page of domains it sees (and can follow links down based on some heuristics), so if it was linked somewhere else it'll discover it that way |
| 10:27:21 | <@imer> | this is also why we generally don't recommend people run urls |
| 10:29:24 | <@imer> | as for the legal side of things, I'm not a lawyer. I do think that if something like that would happen, we would be able to conclusively prove it wasn't the person, but the (automated) warrior downloading these things on their network |
| 10:30:06 | <@imer> | I don't think aside from occasional abuse emails (most of which are bogus) we've had any issues |
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| 10:49:59 | <Guest> | got it |
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| 13:51:11 | <Yakov> | https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/discord/discord-chat-for-gamers/ Has anyone seen this before? Discord name is redacted in apkmirror because of a DMCA... |
| 13:52:46 | <Yakov> | It's really weird that apkmirror would do that yet still redistribute their apk |
| 14:10:32 | <TheTechRobo> | I do think the URLs project should have a stronger warning in the Warrior web UI than just "WARNING IP BLOCK LISTS" given that things like this can happen |
| 14:11:48 | <klea> | Is there some project to grab tor websites? |
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| 14:35:20 | <TheTechRobo> | There was, but I don't remember what happened to it; it hasn't been running for awhile |
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| 15:26:06 | <gosc> | apparently amazon disabled downloading mobile apps on everything but an amazon fire tablet last year |
| 15:26:25 | <gosc> | does anyone own a fire tablet/fire tv? |
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| 15:27:08 | <gosc> | there's a whole bunch of free apps on there I wanted to grab, which are very obscure and still downloadable |
| 15:27:34 | <schwarzkatz|m> | Yakov: I have seen that before, it has been like that for some time I think |
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| 15:31:57 | <gosc> | here's the apps I need to grab, I'm kind of busy so I'll just leave them here: https://www.amazon.com/s?i=mobile-apps&rh=p_4%3AJTWebMan&search-type=ss |
| 15:32:00 | <gosc> | and https://www.amazon.com/aibee-Rose-Guns-Days-Season1/dp/B00ANFT1NE/ |
| 15:32:17 | <gosc> | I understand if no one wants to pay for the second one but the first link has entirely free apps |
| 15:36:50 | <gosc> | actually wait, this would make the amazon appstore endangered by archiveteam standards |
| 15:36:52 | <gosc> | let me add that |
| 15:46:07 | <h2ibot> | Calmevening edited Alive... OR ARE THEY (+281): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60368&oldid=60359 |
| 16:06:16 | <justauser> | blog.archive.today now doesn't resolve in many places and https://archive-is.tumblr.com/ stopped redirecting. Has two recent posts. |
| 16:06:45 | <anarcat> | quick, archive it |
| 16:06:47 | <anarcat> | oh shit |
| 16:07:40 | <justauser> | Already SPN'd the latter. |
| 16:08:03 | <justauser> | Doing something with AT as whole is planned for ages, AFAIK? |
| 16:09:08 | <justauser> | !ao'd the redirect. |
| 16:16:39 | <Guest> | https://transfer.archivete.am/EtrtB/blogat_spn.png |
| 16:16:40 | <eggdrop> | inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/EtrtB/blogat_spn.png |
| 16:16:49 | <Guest> | (spn fails to resolve domain) |
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| 16:19:11 | <justauser> | klea: Pair.com? Don't tell me their security@ is a mailing list. |
| 16:19:52 | <klea> | justauser: i sent a email to webmaster@marcdashevsky.com not to pair.com, maybe they handle mail via mailing list? |
| 16:19:56 | <klea> | would be annoying probably. |
| 16:21:02 | <justauser> | The bounce is from pair.com, and I still remember the rush to save their mailing lists. Thus the conclusion. |
| 16:21:14 | <justauser> | Nothing certain, but a good suspicion. |
| 16:24:48 | <schwarzkatz|m> | does the WBM care a lot about query params? Say, I request ?page=2&foo=bar but only ?page=2 is saved. would I get an answer? |
| 16:24:48 | <schwarzkatz|m> | background: a website I am collecting links for pollutes almost all pagination with some random parameters that do not disappear again from the url after visiting another page; I am thinking about just removing them but am not sure if that is okay |
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| 16:26:12 | <justauser> | Almost exact match. |
| 16:26:31 | <justauser> | Details on the wiki. |
| 16:26:41 | <justauser> | However, the opposite sort of works. |
| 16:27:28 | <justauser> | If you go to ?page=2, but only ?page=2&foo=bar is saved, it'll suggest to show pages with this prefix and you'll see the saved one. |
| 16:28:12 | <justauser> | Does it mean URLs grow infinitely? |
| 16:29:40 | <schwarzkatz|m> | justauser: hm, and is that also depending on the order? in this case the page params gets added at the end :/ |
| 16:30:11 | <justauser> | Meh. |
| 16:30:22 | <justauser> | Another case of user-hostility. |
| 16:30:25 | <schwarzkatz|m> | justauser: luckily no, once they are added they stay there |
| 16:30:39 | <justauser> | That's exactly what I meant. |
| 16:30:56 | <justauser> | If parameters are only added and never removed while you browse... |
| 16:31:06 | <justauser> | ..this could explode. |
| 16:32:11 | <schwarzkatz|m> | at least the nav bar on top has hardlinks :D |
| 16:32:11 | <justauser> | arkiver: Two days left for opendiary. Are you still hoping to do something? |
| 16:32:40 | <schwarzkatz|m> | I think I'll just keep them then. thanks! the website in question is https://www.animepro.de/anima/test/dvd-serien in case you are wondering |
| 16:32:49 | <justauser> | I'd say strip. |
| 16:33:09 | <justauser> | Only save a single canonical URL for a page. |
| 16:35:36 | <schwarzkatz|m> | oh? from what you said it sounded like this would break the links :o |
| 16:36:16 | <justauser> | It would, but from what you say they are unpredictable to an outsider anyways. |
| 16:36:44 | <justauser> | If we were doing a crawl, it would make some sense to have every internal link good. |
| 16:37:08 | <justauser> | Unless it results in hundreds of duplicated captures, taht is. |
| 16:37:43 | <schwarzkatz|m> | oh, I'm so sorry, the context is important of course |
| 16:37:43 | <schwarzkatz|m> | am collecting the links for archivebot |
| 16:38:14 | <justauser> | So !ao-ing page list instead of letting it crawl? |
| 16:39:02 | <schwarzkatz|m> | yeah, I always was under the impression that is more accurate, no? |
| 16:42:03 | <justauser> | It depends (tm). |
| 16:42:25 | <justauser> | It's more effort and a risk of making a dumb mistake. |
| 16:42:58 | <justauser> | Has to be used when the site is uncrawlable, but this doesn't seem to be the case here? |
| 16:44:11 | <justauser> | Clicked around a bit, doesn't seem that bad in terms of possible duplicate captures. |
| 16:45:14 | <justauser> | It also creates some links to nothing, but you can't tell without fetching that it's one. |
| 16:45:48 | <justauser> | Or does it? |
| 16:46:05 | <schwarzkatz|m> | I see... in that case an automated crawl of that site would be nice! I don't think there will be any updates to the site in the forseeable future |
| 16:46:20 | <schwarzkatz|m> | justauser: do you have an example? |
| 16:48:10 | <justauser> | I suspected https://www.animepro.de/anima/test/dvd-serien?pimcore_request_source=staticroute&controller=%40AppBundle\Controller\AnimaController&bundle=AppBundle&action=list&filter=Z&page=3 , but it actually works fine. |
| 16:48:47 | <justauser> | Despite pointing to page number 3 out of 1. There is probably some workaround server-side. |
| 16:49:21 | <schwarzkatz|m> | ah, it also keeps the page param when filtering :D |
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| 17:01:29 | <schwarzkatz|m> | I think this would create a lot of duplicates. should I manually collect the links then? or is blacklisting the &filter urls a good option here? |
| 17:03:23 | <justauser> | I suspect this will cause us to miss things. |
| 17:03:43 | <justauser> | How much duplicates do you expect? |
| 17:04:09 | <justauser> | Perhaps we can start the crawl from an URL that's already saturated with possible parameters? |
| 17:06:43 | <schwarzkatz|m> | justauser: I am not sure how archivebot crawls a page, but if we get a &filter=A to Z for every single page without the filter (for every category of article) it would be quite a lot |
| 17:07:24 | <justauser> | Uhhh... |
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| 17:10:24 | <schwarzkatz|m> | I suspect it to be x25 of useless links |
| 17:11:33 | <justauser> | I ran out of good ideas. Maybe someone with more experience has some. |
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| 18:32:29 | <h2ibot> | Justauser edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine/Partial exclusions (+67, Added g2a.com, cryptomus.com - hinted by…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60369&oldid=60345 |
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| 18:57:32 | <h2ibot> | Justauser edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+28, Added prodcreators.com - hint by archiveis@twitter): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60370&oldid=60360 |
| 19:02:49 | <justauser> | https://hunch.ly/ - another archival service. Commercial, closed. |
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| 19:13:49 | <@arkiver> | justauser: not sure if there's public archives? |
| 19:14:28 | <@arkiver> | justauser: getting it ready now |
| 19:14:39 | <@arkiver> | 6 million posts, hopefully enoughtime |
| 19:19:37 | <schwarzkatz|m> | good luck! |
| 19:19:43 | <@arkiver> | yeah :) |
| 19:28:38 | <h2ibot> | KleaBot made 2 bot changes: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/KleaBot&offset=20260129192830&limit=2&namespace=2&wpfilters[]=nsInvert&wpfilters[]=associated |
| 19:30:01 | <@arkiver> | imer: when you are around, can we have a target for opendiary? |
| 19:30:02 | <@arkiver> | with |
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| 19:30:06 | <@arkiver> | opendiary_ |
| 19:30:10 | <@arkiver> | archiveteam_opendiary_ |
| 19:30:15 | <@arkiver> | Archive Team Open Diary: |
| 19:30:27 | <@arkiver> | will very likely not be huge at all |
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| 19:51:41 | <h2ibot> | Manuel edited Discourse/uncategorized (-53, Remove mozilla discourse, because it is already…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60373&oldid=60196 |
| 19:51:42 | <h2ibot> | Ljcool2006 edited KamTape (-3): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60374&oldid=58118 |
| 19:51:43 | <h2ibot> | Brad edited Deathwatch (+243, added soldaat van oranje): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60375&oldid=60308 |
| 19:55:41 | <h2ibot> | Arkiver uploaded File:Opendiary-icon.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3AOpendiary-icon.png |
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| 20:07:39 | <klea> | nulldata: could you add an entry in the deathwatch for trinket? |
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| 20:47:45 | <@arkiver> | opendiary project started, it's an easy site |
| 20:47:56 | <@arkiver> | whenever there is a target, items will statr finishing |
| 20:48:16 | <@imer> | soon |
| 20:48:33 | <klea> | i wonder why the process to make targets is manual, it should all be automatable |
| 20:48:37 | <klea> | ie, put file in a single monorepo |
| 20:48:44 | <klea> | edit wiki |
| 20:48:45 | <klea> | kaboom |
| 20:49:33 | <@imer> | it is largely automated (thanks to rew.by), just gotta add the naming and title arkiver gives me and run the automation to deploy the target |
| 20:49:56 | <@arkiver> | imer: yep, if you can't do it now, no worries (though the deadline is a bit close) |
| 20:49:59 | <@imer> | there's some tuning if we know the project will be big and server selection which would be harder to automate |
| 20:50:02 | <@arkiver> | but doesn't have to be in this single minute right now :P |
| 20:50:04 | <@imer> | targets up |
| 20:50:06 | <@arkiver> | wooh |
| 20:50:08 | <@arkiver> | :) |
| 20:50:17 | <@imer> | was already doing it when you sent your message |
| 20:51:48 | <that_lurker> | are the targets running on the new colocation server(s) or somewhere else? |
| 20:52:01 | <@imer> | drone poked as well |
| 20:53:21 | <klea> | is there some way for us boring users to check which target server was choosen, or there's no way? |
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| 20:54:19 | <@imer> | that_lurker: elsewhere, no real changes there in a while. most small projects are going to end up on n905na which is a hetzner box. the other main target is optane10 which is closer to IA physically, but has small disks |
| 20:54:34 | <@imer> | klea: there isn't unless you run the project and look at the logs |
| 20:54:42 | <klea> | oh |
| 20:54:44 | <klea> | annoying. |
| 20:55:08 | <klea> | i guess it doesn't matter too much :p |
| 20:57:30 | <@imer> | arkiver: we seem to have overloaded the site |
| 20:57:39 | <@arkiver> | imer: yeah |
| 20:57:44 | <@arkiver> | well it's responding but slow |
| 20:58:13 | <that_lurker> | get DPoS'd :-P |
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| 21:07:53 | <klea> | wait, did arkiver accidentally switch the automatic warrior project to it, and DPoS them and have it bork, so changed again? |
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| 21:31:40 | <PC> | Yakov: i saw the apkmirror thing too, yeah. been a thing for a couple months at least |
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| 22:04:19 | <IDK> | 0 on https://www.opendiary.com/ |
| 22:04:31 | <IDK> | banned before I even started? 😭 |
| 22:04:32 | <datechnoman> | Website is dead lol |
| 22:04:44 | <datechnoman> | I cant even load it from my home connection |
| 22:04:54 | <datechnoman> | Run on a potato? |
| 22:05:43 | <IDK> | Amazon potato in particular |
| 22:05:57 | <klea> | APotato |
| 22:06:26 | <IDK> | website runs on ec2 instance, we probably sent their aws bills to the 12th digit |
| 22:06:35 | <klea> | smh |
| 22:08:02 | <IDK> | honestly, who knows if their entire backend is just a series of ec2 instances |
| 22:08:37 | <@imer> | should calm down once the warriors finish up the items they started.. eventually.. |
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| 22:09:45 | <@imer> | gonna set limit to 0 for a bit |
| 22:09:45 | <@imer> | !remindme 10min |
| 22:09:46 | <eggdrop> | [remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2026-01-29T22:19:45Z |
| 22:13:05 | <@imer> | "Open Diary will cease operations on February 28th, 2026 and the site will no longer be available. At that time, all servers will cease operations. We have extended this deadline to allow additional time for members to download their diaries." |
| 22:13:05 | <@imer> | more time woo |
| 22:14:34 | <IDK> | lol, the singular ec2 server behind the opendiary website accepts ssh with password, no keys required |
| 22:15:00 | <h2ibot> | Imer edited Deathwatch (+48, /* 2026 */): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=60377&oldid=60375 |
| 22:15:23 | <@imer> | did indeed not put what I did, bad imer |
| 22:19:47 | <eggdrop> | [remind] imer: |
| 22:20:12 | <@imer> | !remindme 10min lift opendiary limit? |
| 22:20:12 | <eggdrop> | [remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2026-01-29T22:30:12Z |
| 22:30:12 | <eggdrop> | [remind] imer: lift opendiary limit? |
| 22:30:28 | <@imer> | looking better, but not quite fast yet |
| 22:30:31 | <@imer> | !remindme 10min lift opendiary limit? |
| 22:30:31 | <eggdrop> | [remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2026-01-29T22:40:31Z |
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| 22:37:22 | <@imer> | limit to 120/min |
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| 22:40:32 | <eggdrop> | [remind] imer: lift opendiary limit? |
| 22:41:08 | <@imer> | -> 300/min |
| 22:42:07 | <@imer> | too much. 180/min |
| 22:45:51 | <@JAA> | Re archive.today blog, https://archive-is.tumblr.com/ looks fine to me now. |
| 22:46:07 | <@JAA> | Both blog.archive.today and blog.archive.ph redirect there. |
| 22:49:46 | <@imer> | down to 120/min again, still slow |
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| 23:04:42 | <@imer> | seems to have completely died again, i did turn it down to 60/min as well. so unsure. i'm heading off for today, ~1s load time of the front page was normal for reference |
| 23:05:12 | <@imer> | ah, lots of warrior returns so maybe a long sleep expired |
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| 23:18:23 | <nicolas17> | imer: what's the limit now? |
| 23:18:44 | <nicolas17> | I see completion at 200/min |
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| 23:20:42 | <nicolas17> | I think items take too long |
| 23:21:33 | <nicolas17> | maybe disabling multiitems would let you better observe the consequences of rate limit changes |
| 23:22:30 | <nicolas17> | still seeing 200/min |
| 23:22:37 | <nicolas17> | despite the limit being at 60/min |