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00:39:26<agris>Hello!
00:39:33<agris>I am looking for warcs or archives
00:40:07<agris>I found a log on github indicating www.k0bg.com was crawled by archivebot in 2016, however I cannot find those warcs on archive.org as they have been burned
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00:40:20<agris>Does anybody have those warcs or files?
00:40:50<agris>https://github.com/JustAnotherArchivist/archivebot-archives/blob/ec1a48a15fcf6a8bedb5a47c3e70b4826e75fe09/archives/items/archiveteam_archivebot_go_20160410020001.yaml#L41
00:40:51<pokechu22>https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/20160409204856bdqv7 seems to link to working WARCs?
00:41:15<pokechu22>https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/ is the modern search tool
00:41:25<agris>omg thank you you are amazing
00:41:39<agris>the internet archive alone cannot be trusted to not burn information
00:43:11<agris>I have been trying to reconstruct the site by hand from caches in intelx
00:46:20<agris>that's so strange. There's files here that won't show up on archive.org, but are still downloaded from archive.org
00:46:47<jacknet>Heya, new here. Wanted to see if it would be possible to somehow preserve webXR stuff hosted in 8th wall. Used to be part of niantic, and now as the toolkit becomes open source (MIT licensed) the cloud platform got deprecated and will be decommissioned next year.
00:46:59<@JAA>agris: Example?
00:47:01<jacknet>Apps can no longer be updated or exported by devs, and whatever is already published will only run until next February. https://8thwall.org/
00:47:20<agris>JAA try searching for www.k0bg.com on archive.org
00:47:28<agris>or these warc files
00:47:47<@JAA>agris: The IA search doesn't search the names of files in items, so that's entirely expected.
00:48:06<@JAA>That's essentially why the ArchiveBot viewer exists at all.
00:48:38<agris>forgive me if this is a newbie question, but how does one open warc files?
00:48:42<@JAA>The items from that particular job are here: https://archive.org/download/archiveteam_archivebot_go_20160410020001
00:48:47<@JAA>s/items/files/
00:48:48<agris>kiwix doesn't open them
00:49:11<jacknet>Two niantic examples use it and I tried to save them on the wayback machine with mixed results. peridot.8thwall.app/pause mostly got saved, peridot.8thwall.app/dotcam did not result in a functional experience
00:49:26<agris>it doesn't show up here https://archive.org/search?query=subject%3A%22warcarchives%22&and%5B%5D=year%3A%222016%22
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00:50:47<@JAA>The ArchiveBot items don't have that subject, so yes, expected.
00:51:34<agris>so what happened exactly when a url is "excluded" from the wayback machine?
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00:54:26<pokechu22>jacknet: I did previously look into that, and one big issue is that I don't see a good way to discover all uses of it
00:55:39<pokechu22>It also seems like it needs a camera connected (and IIRC it needs to think it's on a phone; laptops aren't accepted) for the frontend to actually download assets, though a URL list runs fine
00:56:29<pokechu22>agris: when it's excluded, that means that it's no longer browsable on web.archive.org, but the WARC file still exists. (It may separately be made impossible to download while still existing on IA's servers, and many WARCs that are restricted from download still replay on web.archive.org)
00:56:41<pokechu22>https://replayweb.page/ is one tool you can use to replay a WARC locally
00:57:20<agris>what about native software?
00:57:48<agris>the file is quite large and it seems it is taking forever to load
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01:00:16<pokechu22>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/The_WARC_Ecosystem#Tools, click on the view column header twice
01:00:26<jacknet>pokechu22: I'm aware some other examples exist in Reddit, mainly r/augmentedreality
01:01:02<jacknet>"*.8thwall.app" site:reddit.com
01:01:04<pokechu22>I happened to see one instance of it in the wild in a library right before the shutdown announcement
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01:04:27<wickedplayer494>I guess at some point I might have to end up moving that (More Than A Motherfucking Shitload) I put on that Places to store data page to "An exabyte"
01:04:33<wickedplayer494>:v:
01:09:45<agris>oh my god, absolutely amazing. You people saved it, back in 2016
01:09:54<agris>Thank you
01:10:00<agris>this is an invaluable resource
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15:41:37<userlol72872>!archive
15:44:55<klea>userlol72872: What do you want to archive?
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18:12:17<endoftimee_>Hello. where can i ask to see if protogen.support was logged anytime recently?
18:13:37<klea>Data from most of AT's activities ends up in the Wayback Machine, so if you don't see it in https://web.archive.org/web/*/protogen.support it probably wasn't archived.
18:13:45<pokechu22>https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=protogen.support shows no AB jobs. So I guess just https://web.archive.org/web/20260000000000*/protogen.support or https://web.archive.org/web/*/protogen.support*
18:13:58<klea>pokechu22++
18:15:05<pokechu22>http://protogen.support does give something
18:16:31<klea>Authentik.
18:16:39<klea>Time to AB both?
18:16:49<pokechu22>Yeah
18:18:34<endoftimee_>That is me. I am trying to get the roginal site back up
18:18:47<endoftimee_>I have a default rule for anything that does not resolve to a site, falls back to authentik.
18:19:40<klea>Ah.
18:20:07<endoftimee_>I would prefer to not AB those domains until i cant get the orignal site back
18:20:21<endoftimee_>It appears I will ahve to do the css myself, but the html is there
18:20:33<klea>I mean, it's very common for AT to AB error pages too.
18:20:43<pokechu22>I already started some AB jobs, but I can do new ones when it's back
18:20:47<endoftimee_>Fair enough.
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18:21:26<endoftimee_>Can you AB protogen.live, endoftimee.tech dev.endoftimee.tech space.endoftimee.dev
18:27:03<pokechu22>Done those
18:27:07<endoftimee_>ty
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