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02:09:53<SketchCow>What's this Karma -bs
02:10:59<@arkiver>collecting points
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02:24:40<nicolas17>!karma fireonlive
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02:25:27<@JAA>Pointless internet points
02:27:03<@arkiver>:P
02:28:18<DigitalDragons>but now with a *scoreboard*!
02:28:35<@arkiver>pokechu22: we may be able to archive that with #Y , i'll check further tomorrow
02:29:36<@arkiver>IDK: i'll get back to you after some sleep
02:31:00<@JAA>I'll look into fixing up the wikis today (UTC).
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02:32:30<@arkiver>yay!
02:32:42<@arkiver>can't wait to have a look at deathwatch page
02:33:04<@JAA>I, too, like to doomscroll sometimes.
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02:35:28<nicolas17>I finally patched identity.kde.org today -.-
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03:33:46<Dango360>in case you get impatient: https://web.archive.org/web/2/https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Deathwatch
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04:36:31<pokechu22>arkiver: it seems like after 25 requests any further requests get the captcha for around 10 minutes, but then it returns to 200s afterwards. A 2-minute delay between requests is insufficient to avoid this.
04:41:29<Webuser404586>Thanks pokechu22, arkiver, and ap for finding the memorial post. Two things that might help:
04:41:30<Webuser404586>I was wrong about the storage filenames being random. They're date-time-boat, like storage.976-tuna.com/audio_reports/08102018-1536-ex.mp3. They're still only linked from the audio pages, but some Wayback copies of /audios/ pages contain them.
04:41:30<Webuser404586>I'm planning a slow personal backup of just the count pages (/landing/{id}/{slug}/counts?m=&y=, about 6,600 URLs, 20 requests and then a 12-minute pause). If the rate limit is global, that could get in the way of your job, so I'm happy to hold off or schedule around it. Just tell me what works.
04:42:20<pokechu22>I think it's not global, and I just happened to time my last request right after the archivebot job started
04:43:30<pokechu22>It looks like https://976-tuna.com/highliners also has a <select>-based count system in addition the the per-landing counts
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21:48:16<katia>are ll archivebot warcs 403 now?
21:48:48<klea>katia: Yes.
21:48:57<klea>See #archivebot for arkiver's messages around that.
21:49:06<katia>ugh
21:49:24<klea>AI--
21:49:24<eggdrop>[karma] 'AI' now has -19 karma!
21:49:29<klea>IA--
21:49:30<eggdrop>[karma] 'IA' now has 3 karma!
21:49:51<klea>(for funding Anthropic, via Claude https://mastodon.archive.org/@brewsterkahle/117481215431503956)
21:49:59<klea>IA is pretty awesome otherwise.
21:56:43<IDK>????
21:56:58<IDK>is the data being fed into claude?
21:59:06<klea>IA hasn't said so.
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22:44:47<masterx244|m>klea: got a timestamp for when arkiver answered on that?
22:45:20<klea>masterx244|m: I don't rn, arkiver mentioned having to restrict archivebot warcs on #archivebot, which isn't publicly logged.
22:45:49<masterx244|m>i got that channel on my IRC bouncer, knowing the rough time makes it easier for me to scroll to the relevant time
22:46:23<klea>2026-10-23 18:42:47
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22:50:40<masterx244|m>whats your current time klea? (for fixing timezone mismatches)
22:50:47<klea>UTC!
22:50:54<Pendonym>Any ETA on when the wiki is going to be back up?
22:52:42<masterx244|m>found it. timestamp and the UTC hint helped me to scroll to the right spot
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22:53:41<masterx244|m>at least you cannot get locked out of your own uploads when they get moved to a restricted colleciton
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22:55:03<klea>huh, is that true?
22:55:06<klea>I thought you could?
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22:55:42<masterx244|m>not by the basic "access-restricted", i got a few items that got moved to a AT collection, files don't appear as locked for me in those
22:56:14<klea>hmm, TIL.
22:56:33<klea>Could you share a example item (preferably in archiveteam-inbox or the likes?)
22:57:09<masterx244|m>https://archive.org/details/imfdb.org-20230703
22:57:20<masterx244|m>its under archiveteam-just-in-time
22:57:28<masterx244|m>in a private window they appear as locked
22:57:40<masterx244|m>logged in as me all files there are open in that item
22:57:59<klea>Interesting.
22:58:03<masterx244|m>(got 41 items under a AT collection on my accoujnt in total)
22:58:51<klea>The thing is AB items aren't uploaded by the person who queued them, but by a set of AT core accounts, so...
22:59:17<masterx244|m>yeah, thats the annoying thing.
22:59:18<masterx244|m>too bad the archive.org processes are crusty there :(
22:59:34<masterx244|m>and sucks that the LLMbros are assholes and suck data out everywhere and make life miserable for others
22:59:36<masterx244|m>AI--
22:59:36<masterx244|m>Techbros--
22:59:38<eggdrop>[karma] 'AI' now has -20 karma!
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22:59:43<masterx244|m>LLM--
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23:00:13<masterx244|m>back around the imgur shredding party being able to crawl thru WARCs to find URLs was a godsend
23:00:37<masterx244|m>(luckily i got most of mine still cached on my server so i can sweep them for uploader.jp links without redownload)
23:00:37<klea>hmm, I wonder if arkiver would let some AT members have access to all AT warcs, probably not.
23:03:32<masterx244|m>sampling thru the most promising of my uploads right now to see if uploader.jp links are hiding there
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23:10:24<IDK>what I wonder is if internet archive can provide a signed URL for an restricted item to temporary allow access
23:11:16<IDK>so some AT member would be able to access the data through their own login on a platform
23:12:44<@arkiver>all the suggestions are very helpful!
23:13:09<@arkiver>(huh, that sounded oddly sarcastic - it's not, it really is)
23:13:34@arkiver generally doesn't do sarcasm on IRC
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23:49:04<pabs>huh, https://ghostarchive.org/ returns a 404 now...
23:49:53<pabs>hmm, and now times out
23:50:17<pabs>ah no just slow
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23:51:37<pabs>if https://ghostarchive.org/ comes back maybe we should enumerate and save it arkiver ?
23:52:27<@arkiver>pabs: it may be good to, i guess AB is not enough for it?
23:52:28<klea>Sounds like a good idea.
23:52:31<klea>pabs++
23:52:31<eggdrop>[karma] 'pabs' now has 224 karma!
23:52:50<pabs>not sure, I expect its kind of big
23:52:51<@arkiver>i never really looked into ghostarchive , is it basically an alternative to archive.today?
23:52:56<pabs>yeah
23:53:07<pabs>might be somewhat JSy too
23:53:26<@arkiver>bleh
23:53:29<nicolas17>is it enumerable?
23:53:37<@arkiver>yeah it doesn't load for me now
23:54:57<@arkiver>interesting to return 404 under high load
23:55:10<pabs>could also be PHP related
23:55:25<@arkiver>pabs: when it loaded for you, did the site look right?
23:55:39<pabs>just a web server 404 page, nothing more
23:56:03<nicolas17>I meant, when the server actually works... is it enumerable?
23:56:14<nicolas17>or would we need to dig for valid URLs in other crawls?
23:56:23<pabs>from the wbm, sounds like you can search for URLS containing a word (case sensitive), enumerate URLs on (sub)domains. not sure about full enumeration, the IA CDX looks like it has some URLs
23:56:51<pabs>the identifiers are pretty short though http://ghostarchive.org/archive/1FbIB
23:56:56<nicolas17>oh
23:57:01<pabs>so maybe brute-forceable
23:57:01<nicolas17>that sounds bruteforceable
23:57:12<nicolas17>assuming the server can take the load
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23:58:08<pabs>and the long URLs including archived domain/path redirect to the short URLs
23:59:17<@arkiver>it could be a very long term project

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