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| 01:14:05 | <Webuser573521> | I'm working on a project that aims to provide an endpoint for anyone to submit a URL and it returns a clean, markdown version of the webpage's contents. It also has a peer to peer system for people to fetch and store saved markdown from other people on the network using whatever filtering they want. The end goal is that if someone wanted to browse |
| 01:14:05 | <Webuser573521> | the internet in a markdown only format, without needing any JavaScript or viewing ads and other typical crappy web experience stuff, they'd be able to. Is this the sort of project archiveteam would care about or is it outside the scope of what's normally done around here? |
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| 01:16:11 | <katia> | wdym 'care about'? |
| 01:16:30 | <katia> | if you post a link we can archive it |
| 01:17:16 | <katia> | if you want something else you'll have to be more explicit |
| 01:17:18 | <Webuser573521> | I meant is it the sort of project people around here would be interested in contributing to or using? |
| 01:18:12 | <katia> | hard to say as it does not exist |
| 01:19:11 | <katia> | but i'm just one person around here |
| 01:19:23 | <Webuser573521> | It exists, but I wasn't going to barge in here and start pasting links in a self promoting sort of way. |
| 01:20:19 | <katia> | in that case i think you can take that to #archiveteam-ot / this is for archival related topics. |
| 01:20:25 | <Webuser573521> | thanks! |
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| 02:08:44 | <icedice> | dendory: .is is not what it once was, they forced Njalla to take down pirate high profile .is domains after some Icelandic court case or lose all Njalla-registered .is domains: https://torrentfreak.com/njalla-takes-pirate-site-domains-offline-following-legal-pressure-210521/ |
| 02:10:53 | <icedice> | ISNIC also suspended private porn tracker Empornium because it had porn in the domain name (porn is technically illegal in Iceland, though it's practically unenforced apart from the Smurfs VHS incident) |
| 02:11:01 | <icedice> | Earlier they could care less about it |
| 02:11:54 | <icedice> | For politics it could probably work as long as no user posts NSFW material on their blog |
| 02:12:55 | <icedice> | *Edit: Just Empornium's .is domain was suspended, not the site itself. I see that part wasn't formulated clearly enough |
| 02:14:20 | <icedice> | Iceland is in the EEA (European Economic Area) though, so they're not entirely outside of EU jurisdiction |
| 02:15:43 | <icedice> | Basically a court order from an EU court is valid in Iceland after some minor procedural step. They just check that it has gone through the proper process, but don't re-examine the merits of the case |
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| 02:18:54 | <icedice> | The best .is domain registrar is OrangeWebsite. They don't care about much and will let you register domain using their info so it won't get suspended for having fake info. 1984 Hosting is also a decent choice. There's also FlokiNET, but that's run out of Romania while cosplaying as an Icelandic company, so that's entirely under EU jurisdiction if the adversary just cares to look beyond the info that FlokiNET puts out on their website |
| 02:20:16 | <icedice> | The Australian Federal Police fell for it though: https://cyberscoop.com/australian-police-ask-website-pull-leak-data-nauru/ |
| 02:23:47 | <icedice> | 1984 Hosting went to court in Iceland to fight against the ADL trying to take down an anti-zionist site: https://litigation.1984.hosting/ |
| 02:25:11 | <icedice> | And once last detail about the Empornium case: All you can see is a login page unless you're a member and they didn't even host any media on the .is domain |
| 02:30:31 | <icedice> | I kind of forgot about .is tbh because it has become pretty irrelevant for most offshore hosting |
| 02:30:49 | <icedice> | Could probably work for something like this though |
| 02:37:58 | <icedice> | And .is domains can be registered directly via isnic.is, but they don't accept crypto |
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| 02:53:58 | <katia> | offshore hosting is all a sham if the US can sanction you and then you end up dissolving |
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| 02:56:57 | <Webuser078580> | I am still new to archiveteam, do I need permissions to use archivebot? |
| 02:57:31 | <Webuser973394> | Does anyone watching neo cities? |
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| 02:59:44 | <katia> | Webuser078580, yeah not everyone can use archivebot due to permissions not being very advanced, but you can ask and i will queue things for you |
| 02:59:51 | <katia> | or anyone else who is around |
| 03:00:01 | <Webuser078580> | can i have permission to use it |
| 03:00:55 | <Webuser078580> | i also want permission to archive youtube channels and videos |
| 03:00:55 | <katia> | why? |
| 03:01:08 | <Webuser078580> | because i'm curious to learn how it works |
| 03:01:14 | <Webuser078580> | and i'm probably bothering you guys |
| 03:01:21 | <katia> | i mean |
| 03:01:26 | <Webuser078580> | do you guys ever get annoyed with archive requests |
| 03:01:36 | <katia> | it's good to be curious but this is live infra serving a real purpose |
| 03:01:53 | <katia> | so not my call but no playing around probably |
| 03:02:11 | <katia> | archivebot is open source though, you can self host it in theory |
| 03:02:47 | <katia> | https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/ArchiveBot/pull/577 i have a draft PR to containerise it you could base off fo |
| 03:02:47 | <Webuser078580> | open source meaning I can archive pages myself If I download it? |
| 03:02:51 | <katia> | yes |
| 03:03:18 | <Webuser078580> | ok, do you need linux to use it or can it run on windows 11? |
| 03:03:23 | <Webuser078580> | I don't know much about these things |
| 03:04:38 | <katia> | i don't know much about windows |
| 03:04:46 | <katia> | but again, you can just post a link |
| 03:05:09 | <katia> | if your scope is to get something archived, then the path of least resistance is let an archivist near you know about it. it will end up in the Wayback Machine. |
| 03:05:36 | <Webuser078580> | ok |
| 03:06:30 | <Webuser078580> | another question, why is it when you guys archive youtube videos, the audio and video gets saved separately? is it intentional |
| 03:06:52 | <Webuser078580> | when i play the archived video on the archived youtube page there's no sound |
| 03:07:01 | <Webuser078580> | i can give an example if needed |
| 03:08:26 | <katia> | prob so it's a specific quality of either |
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| 04:10:55 | <icedice> | dendory: I almost forgot, null (the operator of Kiwi Farms) gave ISNIC / .is an F: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/nulls-tier-list-for-internet-services.129513/ |
| 04:10:57 | <icedice> | "ISNIC and .IS (Iceland's national TLD) imbibes the traditional Scandinavian concept of speech. Namely, journos and pirates are protected, but bad words are not. They froze kiwifarms.is without warning, demanded passport scans and proof of address, and now are holding the domain hostage waiting for the US embassy to verify my passport is real. (Update: After more than 6 months, this company has not followed up.)" |
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| 04:11:36 | <icedice> | He always registers his domains with legit info btw, doesn't even care about turning on WHOIS privacy |
| 04:12:59 | <icedice> | Kiwi Farms is kind of an extreme though, essentially a cyberbullying community tied to three suicides from what is known and there are people who harass the hosting providers, hosting providers' upstreams, domain registrars, and so on that Kiwi Farms uses until they drop the site |
| 04:15:01 | <icedice> | The 1984 Hosting vs ADL case was about hosting and not domain name btw, so ISNIC was not involved in that at all |
| 04:15:07 | <icedice> | <katia> offshore hosting is all a sham if the US can sanction you and then you end up dissolving |
| 04:15:16 | <icedice> | Russia is already unbanked, at least |
| 04:15:40 | <icedice> | Sadly it's very much not an ideal destination for press freedom or freedom of speech |
| 04:16:14 | <icedice> | <Webuser078580> another question, why is it when you guys archive youtube videos, the audio and video gets saved separately? is it intentional |
| 04:16:36 | <icedice> | From what I've seen in yt-dlp, YouTube serves video and audio streams separately |
| 04:23:26 | <icedice> | Also, you could always get your own ASN and become your own hosting provider, some piracy sites do that |
| 04:25:26 | <icedice> | And didn't they shut down NoBlogs because they were worried US citizens would get jailed for interacting with it or something rather than it being confirmed to be impossible to host moving forwards? |
| 04:25:37 | <icedice> | Or maybe I'm just headcrafting |
| 04:29:27 | <icedice> | And Kiwi Farms refused to take down the video of the New Zealand mosque shooting that they mirrored, so that's not doing them any favours with anyone |
| 04:29:51 | <icedice> | The site was founded because the operator thought 8chan was too strict |
| 04:30:10 | <icedice> | And 8chan was founded because they thought 4chan was too strict |
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| 04:47:04 | <mannie> | Did we already grabbed https://tapas.io/? |
| 04:47:36 | <masterx244|m> | Icecide: noblogs got fucked because it is owned by the A/I collective and everyone that did handle financials got shitlisted by the us and that can hard-nuke a site because its impossible to get hosting anywhere |
| 04:48:39 | <mannie> | We did I know see it on the AB dashboard. Thanks nulldata |
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| 06:10:55 | <@arkiver> | tzt: thank you!! |
| 06:24:24 | <cruller> | Hi, I did a little research on http://www.style-21.com/ and https://e-jan.kakegawa-net.jp/, which are set to close on September 30. |
| 06:24:48 | <cruller> | Re http://www.style-21.com/, in addition to the URLs listed at http://www.style-21.com/expla/faq.html#3_2, it appears the following domains are also in use: http://www.number21.jp/ http://www.plays.jp/ http://www.21styles.jp/ http://www.style-21.jp/ http://www.th21.jp/ |
| 06:24:56 | <cruller> | Since each diary/BBS is independent, it’s fine to crawl the ones you’ve found right away. However, according to Google, the total number of URLs is around 10,000, so you should have plenty of time to crawl them all later in one go. |
| 06:25:08 | <cruller> | RE http://e-jan.kakegawa-net.jp/, it appears that all public pages are listed, so simply using the homepage as a seed for crawling will likely be sufficient. However, the calendar might be a bit annoying. |
| 06:37:39 | <pokechu22> | Thanks. I've been meaning to list outlinks, but haven't had time to process https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/2026083122023664wj2 yet so no real work has been done on that yet... |
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| 06:49:47 | <cruller> | pokechu22: Thank you, too. I'll scrape all the snapshots from www\.(number21|plays|21styles|style-21|th21)\.jp/adiary/upid2?\.js (in addition to [[Site exploration]]) |
| 06:51:06 | <pokechu22> | Yeah, if you can get a list of URLs, that'd help |
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| 07:47:30 | <c3manu> | inventati.org and noblogs.org + subdomains no longer seem to work :| (i think 09-25 was the "deadline") |
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| 09:34:20 | <h2ibot> | PPNplus edited Facebook (+405, Added Facebook Live 30-day deletion policy, as…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63976&oldid=62882 |
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| 11:11:51 | <@arkiver> | tzt: you mentioend "other News UK sites", do you have some more example for me? |
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| 12:09:12 | <dendory> | icedice: Good to know. At least we have some options that aren't as tied to US political pressure, but I'm not sure being tied to the EU is all that much better, depending on the use case. |
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| 12:17:13 | <eggdrop> | [tell] AccelArch: [2026-09-19T05:16:01Z] <pokechu22> We ran those with archivebot: https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=turtlecraft.gg https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=turtle-wow.org |
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| 12:24:24 | <AccelArch> | pokechu22: thanks for the heads up on turtlecraft.gg / turtle-wow.org! |
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| 16:31:55 | <justauser> | The deadline was 2026-09-18, ten days after https://keepitfree.ai/technical-updates/technical-howto-to-back-up-your-data-on-a/i-services/ . So it actually held up for a few days extra. |
| 16:36:48 | <justauser> | AccelArch: FYI, https://forum.turtlecraft.gg/ didn't work in AB. |
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| 17:02:34 | <justauser> | JAA: Some help with qwarc/grab-site/whatever is needed. https://forum.turtlecraft.gg/ should be grabbed with a cookie, https://forum.keycloak.org/ seems to be OK with either PoW cookie or a clean IP. Neither runs in AB. |
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| 17:07:54 | <h2ibot> | KleaBot edited Main Page/Current Warrior Project (+0, Default projects are now weebly (weight 0.1),…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=63977&oldid=63955 |
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| 18:55:44 | <@JAA> | justauser: Hmm, what are the deadlines? |
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| 20:54:57 | <AccelArch> | justauser: When I get home, I'll take a look at https://forum.turtlecraft.gg/ |
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| 21:52:05 | <ShinnAsukaYESTaylorSwiftNO> | Kakao has recently announced that they will kill Tapas https://animemojo.com/manga/kakao-entertainment-is-shutting-down-the-webtoon-app-tapas-a21082 |
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| 21:58:29 | <ShinnAsukaYESTaylorSwiftNO> | Could you guys please archive that site before its too late? |
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| 23:11:25 | <tzt> | arkiver: https://www.the-tls.com/ https://virginradio.co.uk/ https://www.the-sun.com/ |
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