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| 01:03:02 | <cruller> | Speaking of which, has anyone tried combining pywb's proxy mode (https://pywb.readthedocs.io/en/latest/manual/configuring.html#https-proxy) with "ia: cdx+http://web.archive.org/cdx;/web" (https://pywb.readthedocs.io/en/latest/manual/warcserver.html#warcserver-config)? |
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| 01:05:31 | <tmg1|michelson> | tl;dr fediverse ppl suggesting this might be a case for y'all https://poa.st/objects/ca1622ce-e89f-44f6-83fd-70a97f8f8736 |
| 01:07:43 | <klea> | Time for "We know about the RPG Maker Web forums and we're playing the waiting until readonly game." in #archiveteam-bs? |
| 01:08:55 | <tmg1|michelson> | klea: thx |
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| 02:57:04 | <Pendonym> | yooo breach.vip back |
| 02:57:05 | <Pendonym> | holy moly |
| 03:27:13 | <Yakov> | f ye |
| 03:27:16 | <Yakov> | ya* |
| 03:40:34 | <nicolas17> | klea: stuck uploads? |
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| 04:47:33 | <BOXO> | The GameMaker Help Forums are being Struck down by Gamemaker, Without a Archive |
| 04:51:23 | <@JAA> | BOXO: Do you have a link? |
| 04:51:41 | <BOXO> | to what in particular |
| 04:51:51 | <@JAA> | The forums |
| 04:52:02 | <@JAA> | Or the announcement |
| 04:52:45 | <BOXO> | uh |
| 04:52:51 | <BOXO> | in search of the link to the forums |
| 04:52:55 | <BOXO> | they are already gone |
| 04:53:11 | <BOXO> | and |
| 04:53:16 | <BOXO> | i found a backup |
| 04:53:19 | <BOXO> | whoops |
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| 04:54:06 | <@JAA> | ... |
| 04:55:48 | <exorcism|m> | 🫪 |
| 04:55:50 | <@JAA> | The official GameMaker forums used to be at https://gmc.yoyogames.com/ then https://forum.yoyogames.com/ now https://forum.gamemaker.io/ and are still online, including the old contents as far as I can see. |
| 05:08:18 | <c3manu> | klea: what's happening regarding lists of phpBB forums? i haven't been following and the conversations seems a bit fragmented |
| 05:09:48 | <@JAA> | c3manu: There's an authentication bypass that lets anyone become admin. Chances are some forums will be shut down, defaced, etc. |
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| 05:10:35 | <c3manu> | oof. that's gonna be a list of all phpBB forums in the internet then, isn't it? >.< |
| 05:10:59 | <@JAA> | Yeah, or at least the unmaintained ones running older versions. |
| 05:11:42 | <c3manu> | in case we build a list for that it would probably be good to get some metadata like age, number of posts/users as well to prioritize |
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| 07:17:50 | <klea> | nicolas17: I have 2 I was uploading and then accidentally forgot to charge my laptop, how do I give them to you for putting in place? |
| 07:18:28 | <klea> | (I don't remember which 2, since I forgot to remove another upload that did finish succesfully.) |
| 07:18:57 | <klea> | I forgot to disable the proxy when uploading, which made it very slow. |
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| 09:17:34 | <Lord_Nightmare> | Jaa mentioned this earlier, but: https://old.reddit.com/r/whennews/comments/1u3k3ik/rpgmaker_is_about_to_become_so_much_less_usable/ |
| 09:18:03 | <Lord_Nightmare> | Is there a project to crawl and archive those forums yet? |
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| 11:44:34 | <@arkiver> | Lord_Nightmare: we're aware of it, waiting for it to become read only |
| 11:44:46 | <@arkiver> | i see read only on june 18 and deleted on december 11 |
| 11:44:51 | <@arkiver> | should be plenty of time to get a proper copy |
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| 14:17:48 | <Ghibbi64> | Hi i joined here to ask for a bit of help. It's been announced some days ago that the RPG Maker forum will be shut down at the w |
| 14:18:10 | <Ghibbi64> | end of this year, and a lot of precious resources will be lost forever, like guides, plugins, script |
| 14:18:13 | <klea> | Ghibbi64: We're aware of it, waiting for it to become read only. |
| 14:18:19 | <Ghibbi64> | ohhh |
| 14:18:24 | <Ghibbi64> | that's great |
| 14:18:51 | <Ghibbi64> | you're all goated for wanting to archive it, thanks for the help |
| 14:19:18 | <justauser> | ? |
| 14:20:03 | <Ghibbi64> | ? |
| 14:20:22 | <c3manu> | holy shit i just got a heart attack. i got 6(!) emails from netcups telling me they have to reboot some of my products due to short-term kernel upgrades (maybe dirtyfrag or sth?) – but it's none of the root servers/pipelines of mine, jsut a VPS |
| 14:20:54 | <justauser> | I don't want to be goated. |
| 14:20:56 | | klea wonders if c3manu would like a virtual hug. |
| 14:21:00 | <c3manu> | ^ JAA: not sure how they handle that for root servers though |
| 14:21:46 | | c3manu would like being left alone by klea |
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| 14:35:07 | <justauser> | https://nesbitt.io/2026/06/11/what-happened-to-tea.html |
| 14:35:38 | <justauser> | This is a couple of websites, some GitHub, a Discord and who knows what else. |
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| 16:12:41 | <@JAA> | c3manu: Yeah, not sure either. My only experience with it is from Spectre & Co. They announced a reboot a few days in advance in that case. |
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| 17:08:36 | <Harpuia> | Hello there! I don't know if this is the correct place to ask for advice, but as some of you may know, the rpgmaker forums will shutdown by the end of the year and there is no plan of making a backup. I'm trying to use httrack to archive it, but I suposse the catched my IP since I can't access it anymore (I can from my phone using 5G). Anyway, I'm |
| 17:08:36 | <Harpuia> | looking for advice on how to approach this, I was able to download like 4GB of information, and I suposse I have to wait few hours until they unban my IP or my IP changes, but I don't know if there is a way to slip the workload, or make httrack to download it in a way it don't trigger the website rate limit that may work |
| 17:09:42 | <justauser> | We are going to start our own crawler once they go read-only. |
| 17:10:09 | <justauser> | Then you will be able to get our dump once it's done, assuming everything goes well. |
| 17:10:46 | <justauser> | Thanks for telling us they IP-ban for crawling. We might have to take this into account. |
| 17:10:59 | <Harpuia> | ooh nice to know! is there any way in which I can suport you guys? |
| 17:11:11 | <justauser> | We have a donation page somewhere... |
| 17:11:16 | <klea> | https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Donate |
| 17:11:16 | <justauser> | And make sure to run a Warrior. |
| 17:11:26 | <klea> | https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/ArchiveTeam_Warrior |
| 17:11:39 | <Harpuia> | nice! gonna check it out, again thanks a lot! |
| 17:11:51 | <klea> | There you go, also donate to IA. |
| 17:12:29 | <justauser> | Yeah, IA is always financially troubled. |
| 17:12:57 | <justauser> | That would be http://archive.org/donate . |
| 17:15:10 | <justauser> | pokechu22, c3manu: ^ You both have reminders for it, so whoever does the job keep bans in mind. |
| 17:15:29 | <pokechu22> | I'm guessing they're also getting hammered by a lot of different independent crawls now |
| 17:15:45 | <justauser> | Maaybe it's triggered by something specific, like too much 403s from logged-in only pages... |
| 17:16:10 | <klea> | forums |
| 17:16:13 | <klea> | sorry |
| 17:17:15 | <klea> | Hmm, might make sense to look at irclogs.archivete.am for xenForo instances to see how they were handled in terms of ignores in the past. |
| 17:24:09 | <Pendonym> | Anyone know if archive.today has excluded any URLs? |
| 17:26:12 | <justauser> | There are some claims to that effect, but no examples that I know of. |
| 17:29:58 | <justauser> | Like https://archive-is.tumblr.com/post/809057428639547392/hello-do-you-remove-any-archives-that-contains |
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| 17:32:30 | <justauser> | Wikipedia says "evidence has been presented that archive.today's operators have altered the content of archived pages, rendering it unreliable" but no details either. |
| 17:32:54 | <justauser> | Ars Technica refers to Wikipedia, AT wiki refers to Ars. |
| 17:33:08 | <justauser> | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Archive.is_RFC_5 |
| 17:36:39 | <TheTechRobo> | justauser: "Goated" is not a bad thing FYI :-) |
| 17:41:46 | <klea> | I don't know if it's documented anywhere but stuff like https://nginx.org/r/error_page redirects to the setting, might be a good idea to get a list of those redirects when archiving nginx. |
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| 18:13:45 | <@JAA> | TheTechRobo: Whenever I see someone use the word, my brain imagines the person going: baaa! |
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| 18:25:40 | <justauser> | arkiver: Looks like Tumblr deployed some PoW-based antibot, found, e.g., at https://archive-is.tumblr.com/ . |
| 18:37:46 | <c3manu> | justauser: do we know sth about bans on that forum? |
| 18:38:04 | <c3manu> | RPG maker that is |
| 18:39:08 | <justauser> | <Harpuia> [...] I'm trying to use httrack to archive it, but I suposse the catched my IP since I can't access it anymore |
| 18:40:12 | <c3manu> | hm. let's see |
| 18:40:47 | <c3manu> | given their large and constructive community, maybe they can be talked to once everything is read-only |
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