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06:00:10<nicolas17>https://data.nicolas17.xyz/samsung-grab/ grew a backlog of 24 files (I think they published more than usual + I fell behind a bit)
06:00:50<nicolas17>not urgent, it just would be good to not leave fuzzy alone with it :P
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13:32:30<Savayone>Alright hello hello, first time in this chat, I figured this is the right thing
13:32:45<Savayone>https://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/forums/important-announcements-forum-closure.199/ anyways I wanted to come to you all for this
13:32:58<Savayone>The official RPG Maker forums are closing and they are not archiving it
13:33:13<Savayone>20+ years of RPG Maker related assets will be gone
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13:39:29<justauser>Known, waiting for them to become read-only.
13:39:32<Savayone>Alright, I'm back. I was gonna say if anyone here's gonna try archiving the entire RPG Maker forum, y'all have until December 11th, 2026 JST.
13:40:13<Savayone>This whole thing just ticked me off badly since I was a recent user of that forum.
13:41:03<Savayone>And I was developing a game on RPG Maker VX Ace before canning it.
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13:42:53<Savayone>Just seriously, they're just gonna wipe so much history just like that.
13:44:22<Savayone>But hey, thanks for listening and taking this stie into account.
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15:46:39<Pendonym>fuzzy80211 how do you not get ratelimited?
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15:54:23NotKlea wonders if ungeskriptet is some play on scripting or something or if it's someone actually doing downloads.
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15:59:46<RJHacker54121>okay so why is my name RJHacker54121
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16:40:30<c3manu>since the RPG Maker forum is gonna be set to read-only on June 18th, i would wait until then with queing it in archivebot
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16:45:01<c3manu>!remindme 1w queue https://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/ if nobody else did yet
16:45:01<eggdrop>[remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2026-06-18T16:45:01Z
16:46:05<c3manu>it's gonna be set read-only in JST, assuming 00:00 which is before most of our local times i think :)
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16:54:15<Pendonym>Why doesnt the wiki have a favicon
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17:20:00<fuzzy80211>Pendonym lots of ips :)
17:20:11<Pendonym>from where
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17:47:34<Pendonym>Doesnt archiveteam have a url shortner website?
17:47:38<Pendonym>I thought yall didnt like them
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18:26:09<level_one_stick>The forums for the RPG Maker series of game engines are scheduled to close December 11th this year. ( https://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/threads/rpg-maker-web-forum-closure-faq.183960/ )
18:26:09<level_one_stick>Many resources, mods, etc are currently hosted there, and the admins themselves say "If there are any files you would like to keep, please download them before the forum closes."
18:26:09<level_one_stick>I searched the AT wiki and there's no mention of an RPGM forums project so far. If there isn't one, I'd like to request it.
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18:27:26<justauser>level_one_stick: You are the... fourth? person to report it.
18:27:49<level_one_stick>Ah, OK.
18:28:00<klea>https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=62594&oldid=62570
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18:34:26<pokechu22>I assume waiting until they actually go read-only in a week is fine for those? Probably should ask the next person who asks about those
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19:52:52<ac>Hello people
19:52:59<ac>I would like to make a copy of http://repository.maemo.org/ , which is archived http://web.archive.org/web/20250130143713/http://repository.maemo.org/ and I'm not sure what's the best way to do it. Have I come to the right place ?
19:53:11<klea>curl: (7) Failed to connect to repository.maemo.org port 80 after 49 ms: Could not connect to server
19:53:27<pokechu22>ac: I assume you want to download stuff that has already been archived; it's not a request for a new archive?
19:54:07<ac>klea: yes I'd like to recreate that repo on my computer from the files that archive.org has archived
19:54:18<h2ibot>Exorcism edited Webring (+513): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=62615&oldid=62614
19:54:39<ac>pokechu22: not a request for a new archive, I want a repo that I can use with apt :)
19:54:51<pokechu22>There's an archivebot job at https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/202009262344274q1c4 which should be complete for 2020
19:56:14<pokechu22>those WARCs should contain everything that was hosted on there at the time
19:57:07<pokechu22>I haven't tried it, but you also might be able to use https://web.archive.org/web/20250130143713if_/http://repository.maemo.org/ as a repository URL (note the if_, which enables URL rewriting to use web.archive.org links, but doesn't add the timeline) if you only want to install a specific application
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20:01:01<ac>pokechu22: I've found a WARC at https://archive.org/details/maemo.org_project_pages_20200927 , is it something completely different ?
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20:05:50<ac>pokechu22: also how do I turn a WARC into an actual directory tree ? I see plenty of tools here https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/WARC#Tools but I'm not sure if they do a WARC extraction or if they do other things instead (like downloading a website and putting it into a warc). Also is there any WARC tool already packaged in debian by any chance ?
20:09:39<pokechu22>That one is something completely different. The search on archive.org itself looks for things by item name, but doesn't search by file names. Archivebot jobs are grouped by date for individual files so it's split across several items all named e.g. archiveteam_archivebot_go_20200927150003.
20:09:54<pokechu22>The download links on https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/202009262344274q1c4 are what you want to look at instead
20:10:45<pokechu22>I *think* https://github.com/chfoo/warcat-rs (or https://github.com/chfoo/warcat) does what you want (https://warcat-rs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/usage_examples.html#extract-everything) but I actually haven't done much with extracting WARCs
20:11:21<h2ibot>Exorcism edited Webring/DSring (+0, /* Status */): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=62617&oldid=62613
20:11:41<klea>warcat-rs does it, I believe warcat too but haven't tested.
20:12:36<nicolas17>sg72: weird stuff happened with one of your uploads on samsung-grab, it was marked as complete but the file is not in the bucket
20:15:54<klea>ac: Here's a list of all the urls so you can do `wget https://transfer.archivete.am/108BBA/repository.maemo.org-inf-20200926-234427-4q1c4.txt; wget -i repository.maemo.org-inf-20200926-234427-4q1c4.txt` and download them all.
20:15:56<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/108BBA/repository.maemo.org-inf-20200926-234427-4q1c4.txt;
20:17:03<nicolas17>how big is it?
20:17:22<h2ibot>Exorcism edited Webring (+179): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=62618&oldid=62616
20:17:25<nicolas17>oh those are the warcs
20:17:32<nicolas17>I thought you had made a list of web.archive.org URLs :P
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20:22:22<h2ibot>Exorcism edited Webring/DSring (+0, /* Status */): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=62619&oldid=62617
20:23:11<klea>2026-06-11 20:17:03 <nicolas17> how big is it? <- Wait a while®, I am running a script to get filesize via curl -sLI(ng) the URLs.
20:24:29<pokechu22>you could also just sum the column on https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/202009262344274q1c4 ?
20:24:51<klea>Sounds easier than writing a broken shell pipeline yes.
20:25:07<klea>Sanqui: Should we do proactive archival of all phpBB forums?
20:25:32<@Sanqui>klea: Easier said than done, but I'd love to see it of course
20:25:43<@Sanqui>I'm more busy updating the one I administer!
20:25:49<klea>Yeah, I don't think c3manu or pokechu22 will like doing that.
20:25:59<ac>Do all the warc.gz files I'm seeing contain the same website or do they all contain a part of repository.maemo.org and I need to download them all and assemble them somehow ?
20:26:32<klea>2026-06-11 20:25:43 <@Sanqui> I'm more busy updating the one I administer! <- I need to do that too, although since there's no content in it, I PMed a operator of another such forum.
20:27:12<klea>(AFAIK c3manu runs forums and pokechu22 sometimes too, not entirely sure)
20:27:13<@Sanqui>Do spread the news to your local phpBB admin. It's clearly not well known
20:30:07<pokechu22>ac: they each contain different files on the website
20:31:04<pokechu22>There are also CDX files e.g. https://archive.org/download/archiveteam_archivebot_go_20200927050002/repository.maemo.org-inf-20200926-234427-4q1c4-00000.warc.os.cdx.gz (replace .warc.gz with .warc.os.cdx.gz) that contain a list of files in the WARC if there are only specific files you care about
20:31:20<pokechu22>but it's overall a large repository
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20:32:27<pokechu22>I don't have a large list of forums that I'm working through, but I do run some occasionally. I think c3manu is working through a list of discourse sites but I don't know the details
20:32:38<pokechu22>I don't have time right now to look for random phpbb forums :/
20:36:47<klea>By look for you mean monitor archivals or find them?
20:37:06<klea>If it's find, I can try to make a list, and share it.
20:40:57<pokechu22>Both
20:41:49<klea>Ah.
20:42:03<@JAA>ac, pokechu22: We were (and loosely are) in direct contact with Maemo about archiving it. The coverage from back then should be essentially complete. I haven't kept an eye on changes since then though.
20:43:17<@JAA>To be clear, the effort at the time was for all of it, not just repository.maemo.org.
20:43:26<h2ibot>Exorcism edited Webring (+46): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=62621&oldid=62620
20:45:31<klea>Umbire not here, can't tell them to please further discussion in #archiveteam-bs and would rather not send another message to #archiveteam.
20:46:26<h2ibot>Exorcism edited Webring (+48): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=62622&oldid=62621
20:49:26<h2ibot>Exorcism edited Webring/DSring (+0, /* Status */): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=62623&oldid=62619
20:51:20<ac>thanks for the help, all, I'm currently downloading the warc files. also pokechu22 the apt repo won't work with the wayback machine url, it seems unable to handle 302 codes
20:52:48<pokechu22>Ah :/
20:54:33<ac>JAA: do you mean everything is saved in one place, or that https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/202009262344274q1c4 contains repository.maemo.org , and https://archive.org/details/maemo.org_project_pages_20200927 contains all the other *.maemo.org websites ?
20:55:18<@JAA>ac: It's definitely spread across a number of datasets. I don't remember the details of how it's structured though. It's been almost 6 years. :-)
20:55:31<pokechu22>There's several archivebot jobs: https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=maemo.org
20:55:35<@JAA>There were multiple ArchiveBot jobs as well.
21:00:59<nicolas17>klea: 475GiB
21:01:19<klea>Less than a PB, you can probably stuff that in the IA.
21:01:23<klea>Oh, it's from IA.
21:01:26<nicolas17>lol
21:03:52<ac>my second link only contains data from garage.maemo.org it seems
21:07:09<klea>Clearly we need a IA collection to stuff maemo.org stuff in.
21:09:54<ac>klea: archive.org is fine for wiki.maemo.org , it's only repository.maemo.org that I needed a clone of so apt can use it :)
21:10:47<klea>Ah, as stated previously if you only need(ed) some URLs you could have gotten only some of the files.
21:11:29<@JAA>Interesting that apt doesn't do redirects.
21:12:58<ac>klea: I assumed there would be some dependencies issues but yeah maybe cloning the whole repo is a bit overkill
21:13:21<ac>JAA: it's an old version of apt, I haven't checked with a recent one
21:13:25<klea>If you have the space, you'll need about 2x to extract it.
21:17:07<klea>You probably also want https://github.com/chfoo/warcat-rs/releases/download/v0.3.4/warcat-0.3.4-linux-x86_64.tar.gz to do that extraction, with `for warc in /path/to/warcs/folder/*.warc.gz; do warcat extract --input $warc"
21:17:09<klea>"
21:17:10<klea>;done`
21:17:16<klea>oops, entered too soon.
21:18:40<klea>Do note it will take almost a TB if you don't remove the warc files.
21:18:52<nicolas17>ugh
21:18:55<nicolas17>there has to be a better way
21:19:10<nicolas17>maybe a proxy that follows the wbm redirects and point apt there
21:21:15<klea>Yeah, that could be better.
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21:36:34<ac>I gave up, maybe I'll try when I have a few TB free but I'm not going to resurrect this repo now :)
21:37:27<ac>downloading the debs by hand is actually much easier, even with deps, I was to ambitious :)
21:40:44<ac>thank you all for the help :)
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21:54:26<pokechu22>ac: I guess one other trick: https://archive.org/download/archiveteam_archivebot_go_20201004060003/repository.maemo.org-inf-20200926-234427-4q1c4-meta.warc.gz is the log for the archivebot job and is just gzipped text (readable with zless). You can use that to know what files were captured
21:54:38<nicolas17>JAA: time for "we know about rpgmaker forums" in #archiveteam I guess
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22:18:26<@JAA>Yeah, a proxy is what I would probably do.
22:18:40<@JAA>nicolas17: Yup, just did that (before seeing your message). :-)
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