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00:00:36<v01d>ok you are the irc channel of archiveteam website
00:01:30<v01d>that was misleading to put your address as a reference to archive. today
00:01:44<klea>should i add "The tables have turned…", TechLinked, for that shoutout?, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sl0NwUCZlg&t=417s ( i guess not since https://irclogs.archivete.am/archiveteam/2025-07-05#l5afc0c30 it was said)
00:11:44<TheTechRobo>klea: Warcprox would need hardening for that idea to work. It exposes an API with a fair amount of attack surface (e.g. WARCPROX_WRITE_RECORD): https://github.com/internetarchive/warcprox/blob/master/api.rst
00:11:55<klea>oh
00:12:05<TheTechRobo>It'd definitely be useful, though. An archiveweb.page alternative.
00:12:22<TheTechRobo>(that presumably wouldn't violate the WARC standard :P)
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00:13:09<klea>yes, so long you trust AT to not manipulate your data, and add the cert from the service to your CA roots
00:13:27<TheTechRobo>it'd be the other way around, no?
00:13:38<klea>wdym?
00:13:43<TheTechRobo>If AT trusts you not to abuse the warcprox API
00:13:49<TheTechRobo>Unless you mean in general, with a hardened warcprox
00:14:09<klea>no, the the service provided by AT would probably not give you any api to poke at
00:14:24<klea>the thingy i was thinking of would connect to warcprox instead of you to warcprox
00:14:41<TheTechRobo>Oh, I see
00:14:51<klea>mostly because it needs to run a separate instance per user, to have all your traffic be sent back to you
00:14:56<klea>but mitmed at AT's end
00:15:37<TheTechRobo>You'd have to make sure to replace any Warcprox-Meta header in the request, but other than that, that'd work
00:16:32<TheTechRobo>or at least certain fields, since that header does have non-dangerous uses
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00:27:58<v01d>still nice to have stumbled here
00:28:44<v01d>I didn't know about you before
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00:49:44<h2ibot>Klea edited Manual projects (-28, update statuses somewhat): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58297&oldid=47657
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00:53:45<h2ibot>Klea edited Woohoo (+0, Close table properly so it doesn't appear at…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58298&oldid=46764
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01:56:43<nicolas17>I didn't know of the Manual Projects page
01:56:49<nicolas17>I should document my samsung-opensource stuff
01:59:02<nicolas17>although tbf it *could* be less manual than it is
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02:10:51<klea>nicolas17: was last updated in 2019, so makes sense
02:11:15<klea>nicolas17: afaik you have to manually add more files to download?
02:17:23<pabs>anyone know of global website checkers other than check-host.net and globalping.io? (both need JS to display the results)
02:17:52pabs . o O 0 ( maybe we already have a DPoS one? )
02:27:00<klea>it'd be a fun project to setup for warriors to run :p
02:29:21<@JAA>FWIW, check-host.net needs JS to check or render, but the data is all in the HTML, so AB still works fine with it.
02:29:39<@JAA>Or at least it did last time I checked.
02:31:01<pabs>huh
02:31:57<pabs>yep, confirmed that is still true
02:32:24<pabs>JavaScript--
02:32:25<eggdrop>[karma] 'JavaScript' now has -23 karma!
02:36:09<h2ibot>Klea edited Manual projects (+6, [[Current_Projects]] says it's On hiatus): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58299&oldid=58297
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02:43:43<nicolas17>klea: yeah when Samsung publishes new stuff I have to manually add it to the queue
02:45:24<nicolas17>and for items with multiple files like this one it's easier to just download them myself https://opensource.samsung.com/uploadSearch?searchValue=F731BXXU5EYD9
02:48:24<jinn6>+6
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02:59:34<klea>oh
02:59:44<klea>nicolas17: do you still add it to the tracker?
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04:11:22<h2ibot>Zen edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+29, https://elnea.wicurio.com/): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58300&oldid=58277
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10:52:26<despot>question, is there any way to still look at xoom.com archives? besides using archive.today
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11:54:43<cruller>despot: A WARC file created by ArchiveBot in 2022 is public, but it appears to contain only the homepage. https://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=xoom.com
11:57:52<cruller>Services listed on https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Archive_Services may have some snapshots.
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12:02:29<BlackWinnerYoshi>Can IcebergCharts.com be added to Deathwatch? On 2025-11-14T14:16:24.840Z, Coda (admin) stated on Discord that "site will still be up for a year or so" (registration and creating new icebergs already disabled) and that editing will be disabled "in one or two months or so, maybe later". ArchiveBot might have problems with it due to the NSFW toggle
12:02:29<BlackWinnerYoshi>(JS?)
12:15:40<h2ibot>Cruller edited Archive Services (+43, Replace the dead link…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58301&oldid=57898
12:24:59<cruller>Should MemWeb be removed from https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Template:Url ? It would be nice if there were any good alternative web services...
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12:39:32<cruller>https://github.com/oduwsdl/MemGator is self-hostable, but I don't know any public servers.
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13:04:15<cruller>!tell despot see https://irclogs.archivete.am/archiveteam-bs/2025-12-08#l50ec5a4b
13:04:16<eggdrop>[tell] ok, I'll tell despot when they join next
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14:35:00<nicolas17>https://mastodon.green/@cbruegg/115683118868291321 "I always thought the Internet Archive automatically indexed pages. Is that not true at all?"
14:35:09<nicolas17>I already replied to this but maybe someone has something to add
14:42:22<nicolas17>in particular I'm out of the loop about how much crawling IA does on their own
14:42:41<nicolas17>or what other non-archiveteam sources they have for WARCs
14:42:54<nulldata>https://commoncrawl.org/ is also a data source
14:45:52<nicolas17>BlackWinnerYoshi: I heard icebergcharts was already archived, maybe you can check on wayback machine if it has the latest posts and if it has some nsfw ones?
14:46:11<h2ibot>Calmevening edited Android Applications (+366): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58302&oldid=58212
14:46:56<nicolas17>but if edits are still possible, maybe we need to revisit closer to shutdown
14:53:12<h2ibot>Calmevening edited Android Applications (+406): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58303&oldid=58302
14:58:13<h2ibot>Calmevening edited Android Applications (+225): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58304&oldid=58303
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15:19:11<BlackWinnerYoshi>nicolas17: oh yeah, I forgot ArchiveBot Viewer exists, and it did archive both NSFW (suf. `/nsfw`) and SFW (suf. `?sfw=true`) versions of categories, though I'm not sure to what extent. It should be rechecked on ~ Feb 2026 anyway, so I put it onto my watchlist
15:24:51<justauser>pabs: ping.pe partially works without JS, ping-admin.com seems to work fully.
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16:51:36<justauser>Should I do something with color.io's Unsplash?
16:51:38<justauser>https://unsplash.com/@colorio/collections
16:51:59<justauser>Doesn't look easy to paste to some bot and probably not directly endangered.
16:57:30<h2ibot>KleaBot edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+0): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58305&oldid=58300
16:58:12<justauser>Any special consideration for Instagram image direct links?
16:58:22<justauser>Don't seem to be IP-restricted.
16:58:51<klea>maybe somewhat hard to later find?
17:06:08<justauser>Definitely so. Probably the best way would be finding the !ao list.
17:07:28<klea>yea
17:07:47<justauser>JAA, arkiver: ^
17:08:42<justauser>https://transfer.archivete.am/pm4sW/instagram_color.io.txt
17:08:42<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/pm4sW/instagram_color.io.txt
17:08:42<justauser>https://transfer.archivete.am/Y99I5/app.color.io_full.txt
17:15:33<h2ibot>Justauser edited Instagram (+278, /* Accessibility */ imginn.com, kilogram.makeup): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58306&oldid=56438
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18:13:26<kline>does anyone know if scene.org throttles? they say to use their rsync service but i get <200kBps download speeds
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18:14:18<kline>https://files.scene.org/faq/ - currently: 61.20kB/s in rsync
18:16:32<justauser>Try one of the mirrors?
18:18:42<kline>the mirrors dont support rsync - i can download files from them but it's hard to sync the entire tree unless i crawl it the hard way
18:19:01<kline>I will if I need to, I'd just like to use their preferred method, which is apparently this
18:19:35<kline>(if you know of a mirror with unpublished rsync, that would be nice though)
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18:56:47<h2ibot>Klea edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (-39, Remove count to make bot regenerate it): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58307&oldid=58305
18:59:47<h2ibot>KleaBot edited List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine (+39, Rendered from template): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58308&oldid=58307
19:00:54<klea>yay!
19:01:53<klea>oh no, it filled my archiveteam directory with a bunch of files :p
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19:10:48<@JAA>Aw, I was just thinking we could maybe use the count parser function to replace that part of the page, but nope, it blocks the transclusion loop.
19:11:40<@JAA>E.g. {{#invoke:String|count|{{:List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine}}|\* [h]ttps?://|plain=false}}
19:11:54<@JAA>> Template loop detected: List of websites excluded from the Wayback Machine
19:12:12<klea>oh, sad :(
19:13:53<@JAA>Could move it to a template though.
19:14:19<klea>would it work with the subpages too?
19:14:53<@JAA>We'd pass the list into the template and make it return the count + the list itself.
19:15:01<@JAA>So it doesn't matter where it's located.
19:15:50<klea>nice :)
19:34:11<@JAA>We don't actually have the necessary stuff enabled on the wiki, so nope.
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19:38:02<klea>oh
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19:44:04<klea>i made it all work with pywikibot :)
19:44:11<klea>i wonder where i should stuff the source code
19:44:19<klea>sad that i can't register on git. nor gitea. on AT
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20:19:47<steering>Soon(TM) :P
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20:41:07<h2ibot>Klea edited Main Page/Current Projects (+12, [[CurrentWarirorProject]] is a redirect to…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58309&oldid=58147
20:42:12<klea>i typoed CurrentWarriorProject on the edit reason :(
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21:35:15<h2ibot>Cooljeanius edited Miiverse (+102, add "See Also" section for MVClonapedia): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58310&oldid=57594
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21:39:21<ericgallager>https://bsky.app/profile/zacklabe.com/post/3m7isxeqlzc2k
21:40:31<ericgallager>oh wait actually I meant to put that in #UncleSamsArchive
22:03:43<klea>btw, what's the state of archiving single pages of archive.ph?
22:18:21<h2ibot>Cooljeanius edited Discourse/uncategorized (+0, add https://community.pikminbloom.com/): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58311&oldid=56271
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22:28:30<ericgallager>oops, I didn't mean to remove the emojis in that last edit... I think I have some browser extension acting up...
22:29:17<ericgallager>possibly this one? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/twemojify/
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22:59:26<h2ibot>Klea edited Discourse/uncategorized (+0, Undo revision 58311 by…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58312&oldid=58311
23:01:01<klea>possibly
23:01:20klea wonders if she should configure the url bot to order the urls on that page
23:01:27<klea>/cc JAA ^
23:01:27<h2ibot>Klea edited Discourse/uncategorized (+70, Readd https://community.pikminbloom.com/…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58313&oldid=58312
23:03:24<@JAA>Hmm, not sure either sorting by 'name' or by URL makes sense on that page.
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23:04:31<klea>i think by url, removing common prefixes like community.
23:07:32<klea>(forum|community|discourse|forums|www|discuss(ions?)?|foro|support|bbs|help|ask|chat|comunidad)
23:07:59<@JAA>Seems overly complicated for what is basically a dumping ground. :-P
23:08:05<klea>lol :p
23:08:29<klea>is the [[Discourse]] page ordered or it's done manually too?
23:08:41<klea>afaik your code was made to support ordering that
23:08:55<@JAA>I never did anything with [[Discourse]], I think.
23:09:37<klea>i meant that your code for [[URLTeam/Dead]] could easily be repurposed for [[Discourse]]
23:10:38<@JAA>My code was only for the WBM exclusion list, but yes, sure.
23:11:15<@JAA>Oh, yeah, it did that one, too, true. But that's not URLs.
23:11:36<@JAA>That's really just sorting the list entries as they are.
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23:12:20<klea>the wbm exclusion list is separated in subpages, whilst that one uses only list entries, so i'll have to make a merge between the two :p
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