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| 01:27:51 | <MindlessForMinerva> | Hello! |
| 01:28:19 | <MindlessForMinerva> | I have a question. I'm sure that this has been asked a million times, but how do I download a website for personal use? |
| 01:31:23 | <pokechu22> | https://github.com/archiveteam/grab-site is one option |
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| 06:35:45 | <lemuria> | wonder if there's a page about all the archiving being done for all the social media stuff getting nuked on dec 10 by australia's stupid under-16 social media ban |
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| 08:40:38 | <pabs> | lemuria: I think most social media isn't very archivable. #down-the-tube archived a couple of YouTube channels shutting down over those laws though |
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| 09:27:27 | <hexagonwin|m> | arkiver: are you going to work on bufftoon.plaync.com (shut down dec 17)? |
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| 11:55:35 | <h2ibot> | VoynichCr uploaded File:Archive-fever.png: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?title=File%3AArchive-fever.png |
| 12:13:06 | <@OrIdow6> | klea: I don't think blanking the thread on [[Talk:Obstacles]] is needed when it's resloved |
| 12:13:18 | <klea> | OrIdow6: i can undo that then? |
| 12:14:05 | <@OrIdow6> | klea: You can, I'm not demanding it or anything tho |
| 12:14:28 | <klea> | yeah it's probably usefull, even if it's just documenting me being stupidish :p |
| 12:14:38 | <h2ibot> | Klea edited Talk:Obstacles (+1814, Undo revision 58270 by…): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58294&oldid=58270 |
| 12:14:39 | <@OrIdow6> | Mostly beause I was thinking of making a talk page thread myself (I forgot what about) but don't want to mess up the history |
| 12:14:45 | <@OrIdow6> | I'll remember soon |
| 12:15:03 | <klea> | OrIdow6: iirc mediawiki has a nice button to make a topic on the talk page :p |
| 12:15:07 | <klea> | s/p/)/ |
| 12:29:01 | <@arkiver> | hexagonwin|m: noticed it yes, i will have a look at it |
| 12:30:05 | <@arkiver> | (thanks for the ping :) ) |
| 12:38:03 | <lemuria> | btw, i'm planning to run the AT warrior today, is there a way to limit it to a certain amount of gigabytes of disk? |
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| 12:57:15 | <lemuria> | "No item received. There aren't any items available for this project at the moment. Try again lat |
| 12:57:18 | <lemuria> | strange... |
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| 13:03:20 | <jonte> | lemuria: The warrior barely consumes any disk space as it's just temporarily storing files before uploading to the IA |
| 13:05:12 | <lemuria> | ah. |
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| 13:27:46 | <lemuria> | alright, the warrior is working, yay. but i can't seem to connect to localhost:8001 |
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| 14:14:15 | <Webuser636307> | hi |
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| 14:14:29 | <Webuser636307> | is anyone here |
| 14:14:51 | <TheTechRobo> | o/ |
| 14:15:34 | <Webuser636307> | does anyone know how to access the urls archived in the goo.gl project? there seems to be no proper way to look them up by id |
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| 14:17:24 | <justauser> | Just use the Wayback Machine. |
| 14:17:44 | <justauser> | In case of collisions, try to guess. |
| 14:17:55 | <Webuser636307> | so is that how it was archived? |
| 14:18:03 | <justauser> | Yes. |
| 14:18:05 | <Webuser636307> | oh |
| 14:18:16 | <Webuser636307> | aight tysm |
| 14:18:19 | <TheTechRobo> | urlteam does not go into the Wayback Machine, although I am not sure how to access it |
| 14:18:36 | <Webuser636307> | wdym |
| 14:18:43 | <justauser> | URLTeam still doesn't have a proper interface AFAIK. |
| 14:18:53 | <justauser> | Just piles of archives. |
| 14:18:57 | <TheTechRobo> | Oh, right, we had a separate goo.gl project. Nevermind, yeah, all our data should be at web.archive.org |
| 14:19:00 | <Webuser636307> | i found one site that supposedly has this listed, but it doesnt even work |
| 14:19:08 | <Webuser636307> | so thats why i came here to ask |
| 14:19:10 | <justauser> | Link? |
| 14:19:18 | <Webuser636307> | lemme dig it out, hold on |
| 14:19:31 | <Webuser636307> | https://goo-gl.pages.dev/ |
| 14:19:49 | <justauser> | Looks neat. |
| 14:19:57 | <Webuser636307> | yea if it would work lol |
| 14:20:36 | <Webuser636307> | i was just confused on how to see it, but i guess if its available on archive.org directly by just searching for the url directly thats easier |
| 14:20:52 | <justauser> | I'll see what did they do, but AT's data on goo.gl should be in Wayback. |
| 14:21:03 | <Webuser636307> | aight tysm |
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| 14:30:26 | <lemuria> | localhost:8001 on my warrior is still unresponsive... |
| 14:30:52 | <lemuria> | it has nothing to do at the moment, is it safe to just kill it? |
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| 14:31:57 | <TheTechRobo> | should be. Is it connection refusal or timeouts? |
| 14:32:20 | <TheTechRobo> | and are you running the VM, docker, or project-specific docker? (project-specific docker does not have a web UI) |
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| 14:34:09 | <lemuria> | connection refusal |
| 14:34:14 | <lemuria> | i used the "atdr.meo.ws/archiveteam/jjang0u-grab" image |
| 14:34:24 | <lemuria> | so it's project-specific docker i guess |
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| 14:51:35 | <TheTechRobo> | Yeah, that won't have a web UI |
| 14:52:40 | <justauser> | No information about data source. Git repo is 12GB. |
| 15:14:01 | <lemuria> | i've switched to the regular docker warrior so i'm good now |
| 15:14:26 | <hexagonwin> | lemuria: you can come to #jjang0n for jjang0u.com btw |
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| 15:28:07 | <lemuria> | hexagonwin: got it |
| 15:28:24 | <lemuria> | i decided to ask here anyway since it was about the warrior itself, not the specific project |
| 15:29:11 | <justauser> | And questions about warrior itself belong to #warrior. |
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| 17:40:04 | <hexagonwin> | can we run this site https://qaos.com/ on archivebot? seems to be very slow and no updates since 2019, has many useful stuff |
| 17:41:33 | <@arkiver> | hexagonwin: yes do we need to grab outlinks? |
| 17:42:00 | <@arkiver> | ~12.5k thread i see roughly |
| 17:42:25 | <hexagonwin> | arkiver: not sure, i don't think there will be many outlinks that still even work due to link rot |
| 17:42:37 | <@arkiver> | i'll just put it in with outlinks |
| 17:42:42 | <hexagonwin> | alright thanks |
| 17:43:15 | <@arkiver> | there we go |
| 17:43:21 | <justauser> | https://transfer.archivete.am/QzbPr/app.color.io.txt |
| 17:43:21 | <eggdrop> | inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/QzbPr/app.color.io.txt |
| 17:43:21 | <justauser> | Everything app.color.io attempted to load while I tried to find and click every button. |
| 17:43:21 | <justauser> | I'll do some static search of the .js files and ao the list. |
| 17:43:21 | <justauser> | No POSTs, but lots of lazy loading. |
| 17:44:07 | <@arkiver> | justauser: is this going away? i don't see anything when searching "color" on deathwatch |
| 17:44:39 | <@arkiver> | justauser: that list is being archived with AB too |
| 17:45:03 | <justauser> | Announced there last week. Shutting down on 12-31. |
| 17:45:10 | <justauser> | Main website ran in AB. |
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| 17:45:24 | <justauser> | But the most valuable part is this PWA. |
| 17:45:34 | <@arkiver> | ah |
| 17:45:42 | <@arkiver> | justauser: another significant needed for archiving it? |
| 17:45:53 | <justauser> | ? |
| 17:46:10 | <hexagonwin> | arkiver: can you add /print.php?* url rule to qaos.com igset? seems like it's all blocked https://qaos.com/print.php?sid=2928 |
| 17:46:18 | <justauser> | An offline release is to be prepared for paid users, and perhaps someone leaks it |
| 17:46:29 | <justauser> | (the app already says "Pro" and "Offline") |
| 17:46:38 | <justauser> | but let's not rely on it. |
| 17:47:52 | <@arkiver> | added |
| 17:48:00 | <@arkiver> | hexagonwin: ^ |
| 17:48:08 | <hexagonwin> | thanks a lot |
| 17:48:25 | <justauser> | SPN and MNBot can't save it past the splash screen - for some reason it checks for WASM capability and errors out even though I never observed using it. |
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| 17:48:37 | <justauser> | So, making a list manually. |
| 17:49:25 | <justauser> | Oh. I see the WASM now. |
| 17:49:37 | <justauser> | Another feature I didn't manage to provoke. |
| 17:49:42 | <@arkiver> | maybe #jseater can do it |
| 17:51:20 | <justauser> | Nope, see above. |
| 17:51:35 | <justauser> | No WASM (probably) and lazy loading. |
| 17:52:03 | <@arkiver> | right mnbot is #jseater nevermind |
| 17:52:14 | <justauser> | You need to show it the actual image file before it loads the library to process it. |
| 17:52:17 | <justauser> | etc. |
| 17:58:21 | <justauser> | So I'm sitting there like a monkey with a keyboard. |
| 17:59:04 | <justauser> | If anybody can do more "real" testing and record the requests (F12 -> Network -> click-click-click -> Save all as HAR), you're welcome. |
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| 19:01:32 | <klea> | justauser: quick question about app.color.io, if i do that kind of testing, the HAR won't contain any images right? |
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| 20:16:37 | <nicolas17> | arkiver: I assume only admins can see opencollective receipts? |
| 20:17:05 | <nicolas17> | not that I need to see it, just curious |
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| 20:20:03 | <h2ibot> | Cooljeanius edited RTVE Play (-1, it's "its" not "it's"): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58295&oldid=58265 |
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| 20:26:54 | <@arkiver> | nicolas17: yes |
| 20:28:19 | <@arkiver> | (and i think they should be private due to privacy reasons) |
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| 22:08:07 | <klea> | arkiver: could you update pages with information? https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Tracker#Hardware |
| 22:11:40 | <klea> | arkiver: i think opencollective incoming and outgoing transactions should be sent to #at-changes, #archiveteam-bs; and maybe a #archiveteam-opencollective channel, also maybe on the wiki for important & big things, to not rely on external services such as opencollective to document things (maybe make a section like ArchiveTeam/OpenCollective/ or smth) |
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| 22:22:07 | <@arkiver> | klea: yeah something like that channel came up in the past. thought it has not been made |
| 22:22:32 | <@arkiver> | klea: note that the message on opencollective was initially posted as txt file on transfer.archivete.am |
| 22:22:46 | <@arkiver> | https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/XxGJf/infrastructure_changes.txt |
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| 22:38:43 | <klea> | oh ok |
| 22:38:51 | | klea wonders where that link was initially shared to |
| 22:43:57 | <@arkiver> | #archiveteam |
| 22:44:03 | <@arkiver> | on september 14 |
| 22:44:56 | <klea> | oh yeah sorry, i joined #archiveteam on november |
| 22:45:20 | <nicolas17> | should have read the last year of logs to know all the lore /s |
| 22:45:28 | <@arkiver> | :) |
| 22:45:30 | <klea> | that's too much sadly :( |
| 22:45:40 | <klea> | nicolas17: i can't :( |
| 22:45:43 | <klea> | https://irclogs.archivete.am/archiveteam |
| 22:45:52 | <klea> | description not available? |
| 22:46:16 | <klea> | oh yeah https://irclogs.archivete.am/archiveteam/2025-09-14#l63dd9d52 it is there |
| 22:46:19 | <nicolas17> | weird, but "Today's log" works |
| 22:46:43 | <klea> | i got a weird idea for archiving stuff, and i'm not sure if AT could setup the system to have it work |
| 22:47:18 | <@arkiver> | klea: what is it? |
| 22:47:24 | <nicolas17> | still kinda shocked Fusl spent that much personal money on AT the last years <3 |
| 22:47:56 | <klea> | yeah |
| 22:49:29 | <klea> | arkiver: the idea is, people ssh with a key and username combo to a specially made ssh server (to be able to use it as a socks proxy), and also ssh it back (to let it send traffic to the internet instead of wasting it's own internet bill and also be able to bypass geoblocks etc), then AT runs a https://github.com/internetarchive/warcprox instance in between both connections, |
| 22:49:31 | <klea> | thus being able to ensure whoever is volunteering this traffic isn't doing anything evil, and then anything generated from that (at all times stored in AT servers) gets uploaded to IA) |
| 22:50:15 | <klea> | the specially made ssh server is to not have to create accounts for people to do it, and not grant them any kind of shell, i suppose it'd probably be better to replace it with something else instead, but i'm not sure what to put there |
| 22:51:26 | <nicolas17> | for some projects that could work great, TLS would be end to end encrypted between the website being archived and AT-controlled servers, and user-provided machines can't mess with the data |
| 22:52:33 | <nicolas17> | for some projects the AT machine would be a significant bottleneck (either CPU or bandwidth) |
| 22:53:15 | <klea> | i wonder, how is it handled for #// projects, or in the general sense, any other kind of project where users are contributing their own bandwith? |
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| 22:54:51 | <nicolas17> | I think there are *some* measures to stop users from messing with data, but it's nowhere near bullet-proof |
| 22:55:02 | <klea> | oh |
| 22:55:32 | <nicolas17> | mostly "assume good faith" tbh |
| 22:55:38 | <klea> | oh |
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| 22:56:08 | <klea> | i guess that's part of the reason parts of the tracker code that powers AT is not public? |
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| 23:08:09 | <klea> | <nicolas17> should have read the last year of logs to know all the lore /s <- i also can't because some channels are locked behind a password gate |
| 23:09:55 | <nicolas17> | that was not a serious suggestion :p |
| 23:10:14 | <klea> | oh |
| 23:10:28 | <klea> | yeah, i still try to interpret shitposts as serious |
| 23:15:09 | <klea> | however, doesn't seem too hard after i filter a bunch of classes with ublock origin (i only want raw messages so i ignored QUIT,JOIN,NICK,PART,ACCOUNT,MODE |
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| 23:29:55 | <klea> | https://irclogs.archivete.am/archiveteam/2025-10-07#l62a6b9ac sad that people don't want to read logs like i am doing rn :p |
| 23:30:08 | <klea> | but yes, fair that if they pmed them, it would be lost |
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| 23:54:17 | <v01d> | hi everybody, is normal can't access archives link on mobile phone |
| 23:54:25 | <v01d> | ? |
| 23:54:28 | <nicolas17> | like what? |
| 23:54:55 | <v01d> | like archive.today |
| 23:55:01 | <v01d> | ph |
| 23:55:04 | <v01d> | is |
| 23:55:32 | <v01d> | https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2025/12/04/trump-dei-ban-college-men/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNzY1MDgzNjAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNzY2NDY1OTk5LCJpYXQiOjE3NjUwODM2MDAsImp0aSI6ImM1NTI3NTllLTZkMTQtNDUxNy04NzA2LTMyMTNmOTYwMjgxOSIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9lZHVjYXRpb24vMjAyNS8xMi8wNC90cnVtcC |
| 23:55:32 | <v01d> | 1kZWktYmFuLWNvbGxlZ2UtbWVuLyJ9.q2SBxzJJ9C8GaHV6JkNXWBJeIPWYoNTanZZkunLWYaw |
| 23:56:06 | <v01d> | all of them I can't access |
| 23:56:16 | <nicolas17> | we have nothing to do with those sites ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 23:56:26 | <v01d> | ? |
| 23:57:48 | <nicolas17> | we're not affiliated with archive.today |
| 23:57:48 | <v01d> | https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Archive.today |
| 23:58:24 | <nicolas17> | https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Facebook also exists, that doesn't mean we can help you with your Facebook account :P |
| 23:59:28 | | etnguyen03 (etnguyen03) joins |
| 23:59:33 | <h2ibot> | Nicolas17v2 edited Archive.today (-1, /* Ditching unsuccessful archivals */ fix typo): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=58296&oldid=57625 |