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04:37:00<Webuser316172>Can someone with permissions please archive the entire https://sspxasia.com/Documents/ site? And, if possible, the articles on https://dominicansavrille.us/ and the thousands (!) of articles on https://nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.com/ ? Thank you.
04:39:23<nicolas17>blog submitted to the blogger project
04:39:51<nicolas17>(although if it was already archived there, it won't be archived again, so we would miss newer articles)
04:40:23<nicolas17>I'll let someone else do the websites because I have no time to monitor them (should go to sleep)
04:40:52<nicolas17>might be worth doing https://sspxasia.com/ instead of only Documents/, it seems the majority of content is in Documents anyway
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05:38:34<Webuser316172>Yeah, but it only archived https://sspx.asia and that's the new website, which doesn't have all the old documents. That's why I linked to the old site.
05:41:46<Webuser316172>They remodeled their site in 2014 and a lot of articles got "lost", sadly I wasn't around in 2014. This is why I linked to the documents folder as the starting URL
05:42:18<Webuser316172>I believe the archive.is crawler immediately redirects to the new site, there has to be a way to supress that
05:59:41<pokechu22>It's a 12-second <META HTTP-EQUIV = "Refresh" Content = "12; URL =http://www.sspx.asia"> redirect - archivebot can save the whole site that way (and I actually started a job for it already)
06:00:26<Webuser316172>Thanks!
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09:09:59<BlankEclair>i wonder, can switching between ipv4 and ipv6 be used to bypass ip blocks?
09:10:14<BlankEclair>yt blocked my ipv6 ip, so i'm manually downloading videos via ipv4 lol
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09:42:05<that_lurker>That could work. Also switching to a different ipv6 address might work.
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11:28:07<h2ibot>Manu edited Distributed recursive crawls (+73, Candidates: add www.geschichtewiki.wien.gv.at): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57646&oldid=57564
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15:59:33<justauser|m>Proposal for Tuxfamily. Some kind of review or comment would be very welcome.
15:59:34<justauser|m>Will probably happen next week unless someone explains me why is it a bad idea.
15:59:39<justauser|m>https://transfer.archivete.am/R14Hh/tuxfamily-proposal.txt
15:59:40<eggdrop>inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/R14Hh/tuxfamily-proposal.txt
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16:07:09<justauser|m>JAA, arkiver: ^^^
16:10:32<@arkiver>justauser|m: does tuxfamily need any special/custom handling?
16:10:37<@arkiver>your pick of grab-site makes me think not really
16:12:48<justauser|m>1. It needs A LOT of domains done within a single job.
16:12:57<justauser|m>2. It needs some DNS forgery.
16:13:12<@arkiver>can you tell me more about the DNS forgery?
16:13:15<@arkiver>i'm not a big fan of that
16:13:31<justauser|m>Lots of domains are already expired.
16:13:44<justauser|m>But we know the IP of the only hosting server.
16:13:53<@arkiver>do you mean the few custom domains i see in https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/Jq8UM/tuxfamily.txt ?
16:14:04<justauser|m>Yes.
16:14:30<@arkiver>and we don't know the .tuxfamily.org version of them, or it always redirects to the custom domain and doesn't give any web page back?
16:15:08<justauser|m>I don't have any information on that.
16:15:15<justauser|m>I'd guess it doesn't exist.
16:16:04<@arkiver>i'd definitely split the DNS forgery away from the stuff that doesn't require it
16:16:13<@arkiver>or maybe only run that
16:16:28<@arkiver>and i'll do a good push this week to try and get #Y finally running so we can push tuxfamily through that
16:16:45<@arkiver>it will not do the DNS stuff you want to do, so perhaps you could do that indeed with grab-site
16:17:03<@arkiver>and upload the WARCs to IA, though they will not be in the Wayback Machine (but they'll at least be saved)
16:17:05<justauser|m>For .tuxfamily domains, they can be different from the project name.
16:17:05<justauser|m>https://projects.tuxfamily.org/?do=group;name=0linux
16:18:38<justauser|m>I
16:18:48<justauser|m>'d say grabbing something twice won't hurt?
16:19:39<@arkiver>it won't!
16:19:51<@arkiver>but at least separate the DNS tricks from the crawl without tricks
16:20:01<justauser|m>Why?
16:20:09<@arkiver>*if* any of it can ever make it into the Wayback Machine, we need it to be separated out
16:20:24<@arkiver>you don't need DNS trickery for the regular .tuxfamily.org domains right?
16:20:31<@arkiver>only for the custom domains
16:20:35<justauser|m>Yes.
16:21:13<justauser|m>I might drop them from my list altogether, if you are going to push them through #Y.
16:21:45<@arkiver>feel free to get them anyway
16:21:50<@arkiver>i just suggests two separate lists/crawls
16:21:59<justauser|m>But if you are doing them in #Y, there is no reason to get my copy into WBM.
16:21:59<@arkiver>one that requires DNS trickery, one that doesn't
16:22:27<@arkiver>if you start it now, it's already earlier than i do, who knows what happens in the short time
16:22:38<@arkiver>and perhaps it's a nice experiment as well?
16:23:19<justauser|m>I'm probably waiting for more comments and making sure the server is ready.
16:24:08<justauser|m>Do you think that all ignores and 10 levels is good enough replacement for human attention?
16:24:40<@arkiver>i am not sure, not familiar enough with the ignores
16:24:45<@arkiver>can you add ignores mid-crawl?
16:25:02@arkiver is not familiar with grab-site
16:25:24<justauser|m>I think it's possible, but I expect it to run mostly unattended.
16:27:30<justauser|m>Unless there is an easy way to give you (say, ops in #ab) remote control, it will have plenty of time to get out of control.
16:29:09<justauser|m>I'd also guess that #Y won't create a nice list of every tuxfamily URL for later grepping?
16:30:10<@JAA>Yes, you can add ignores at runtime to grab-site.
16:30:32<@JAA>It's basically a local version of ArchiveBot with more or less the same knobs.
16:30:58<@JAA>(Although it's a separate codebase, uses a fork of wpull, etc.)
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18:15:14<h2ibot>Manu edited ArchiveBot (+444, Explain sitemap trick in easy language :)): https://wiki.archiveteam.org/?diff=57653&oldid=57160
18:15:21<c3manu>^cc pokechu22 pabs
18:15:39<c3manu>feel free to improve, but the whole paragraph was backwards to what my brain needs :)
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18:38:12<c3manu>Aww, poor guy https://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-users/2022-August/017388.html
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19:11:28<DogsRNice>how do you unclude something
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19:25:53Topic: Lengthy ArchiveTeam-related discussions, questions here | Offtopic: #archiveteam-ot | https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/1069715869994020867
19:25:53Topic set by AlsoJAA at 2025-09-09 18:44:47Z
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22:38:32<OpheliaMorton>greetings. i'm trying to save a snapshot of https://xubuntu.org/download/ - which has (if not visually) changed compared to the previously stored snapshot. is there a way to force this? i can't seem to get to an option to request a new copy to be saved.
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22:42:16<pokechu22>OpheliaMorton: https://web.archive.org/save/ should work for that if you just want to save the page?
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22:44:47<OpheliaMorton>pokechu22: thanks, i've actually just saved a snapshot there.
22:45:01<OpheliaMorton>have a great day.
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