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08:13:49<BlankEclair>who's gonna tell triangledemon that this is probably best suited as a template parameter
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09:00:14<@arkiver>i see for lumo.fyi, posts like https://lumo.fyi/q/1RjaueyOKVdhPx1YVluwpD are public, do we happen to have a list?
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09:17:25<@arkiver>in an email (i think with the person who reported lumo.fyi to us in #archiveteam ) i have noted that we can likely not archive the parts that are behind a paywall into a public archive, but we can look into the public posts if there's a list
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11:00:32<pabs>arkiver: the front page of lumo.fyi doesn't like to any other pages. all user pages linked from that thread need a login
11:01:10<pabs>so I think all pages are not public, unless you have a login to get a list of them, then maybe some or all of them are public
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11:04:56<pabs>the page you linked is the only content one on Bing search, no content on Google
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12:55:59<@arkiver>yeah :/
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13:44:38<gamer191-1|m>arkiver: is Lumo paywalled? It looks like its just “waitlist-walled”
13:46:11<gamer191-1|m>Btw I’m spamming them with waitlist entries for duck.com emails. If any get accepted I’ll share the login details here (or by DM)
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13:55:49<ericgallager>ok what do all the lock emoji mean?
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14:29:53<@arkiver>ericgallager: lock emoji?
14:30:29<@arkiver>gamer191-1|m: in general i am not in favor of getting data from behind (pay|login|waitlist)walls and making it publicly accessible
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15:56:36<@JAA>ericgallager: It's their way of noting that the collections aren't publicly accessible, I guess, and they're editing their way through the wiki without discussing it.
15:56:48<@JAA>Yeah, this should be a template parameter and come with an explanation.
15:59:59<@JAA>Probably with an FAQ entry similar to the one linked in the left column.
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18:42:00<gamer191-1|m>arkiver: I meant that we could use an account to find more publicly accessible URLs that can then be archived. Not that we would directly archive stuff using that account.
18:45:37<gamer191-1|m>I agree that bypassing login-walls is mostly out-of-scope for ArchiveTeam (although I think it kinda depends—there’s no harm in archiving websites that merely require creating a free account, since there’s no reason for people to use those archives instead of just creating an account, and it wouldn’t hurt the site much if people did)
18:57:04<TheTechRobo>I think our general policy is that if a platform requires login, we don't consider that to be public.
18:57:38<TheTechRobo>Logins are also incompatible with our projects because WARCs require that all authentication would be saved.
19:01:22<TheTechRobo>Relevant logs: https://irclogs.archivete.am/efnet_archiveteam-bs/2020-06-24#l3a263d87 https://irclogs.archivete.am/archiveteam-bs/2021-06-15#l82e1227e
19:08:39<gamer191-1|m>Ok fair
19:10:11<pokechu22>The closest exception I can think of is https://biogeodb.stri.si.edu/jaramillosdb/web/ which literally says to login with guest/guest if you don't have an account - I think JAA ran this in grab-site, though it's not on web.archive.org currently
19:10:54<gamer191-1|m>Also I assume #down-the-tube used yt-dlp’s age restriction bypass before it got patched?
19:14:19<gamer191-1|m>Wasn’t Retrospring login-walled?
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