00:00:00 | <eggdrop> | [remind] thuban: upload game atsumaru data |
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00:40:13 | <whoom> | OrIdow6 katia rainbowdash.net urls: https://transfer.archivete.am/LTZWc/rdnet-urls.txt.zst |
00:40:26 | <whoom> | OrIdow6 katia mlptp.net urls: https://transfer.archivete.am/m1gTZ/mlptp-urls.txt |
00:40:26 | <eggdrop> | inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/m1gTZ/mlptp-urls.txt |
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00:41:38 | <whoom> | OrIdow6 katia mlparena.com urls: https://transfer.archivete.am/Cn8Y1/mlparena-urls.txt |
00:41:39 | <eggdrop> | inline (for browser viewing): https://transfer.archivete.am/inline/Cn8Y1/mlparena-urls.txt |
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01:46:57 | <whoom> | This site has a good sitemap and based on comparing the listed post numbers to the captures on IA, >80% of threads aren't saved. gyakorikerdesek.hu |
01:47:13 | <whoom> | http://gyakorikerdesek.hu |
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02:15:52 | <whoom> | Are the mlparena and mlptp jobs saving external links? |
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02:21:37 | <@JAA> | For visibility since it quickly gets buried over there: |
02:21:49 | <@JAA> | Automatic link prefetching/preview is no longer allowed in #archivebot. Too many people have it enabled, and it keeps causing issues by overwhelming small servers and triggering global rate limits. Please configure your clients accordingly by the end of the month. |
02:21:53 | <@JAA> | For The Lounge users, this means disabling previews globally (or running a separate instance just for this channel) until the maintainers reconsider their stance (as I interpret it) and add an option to configure this on a per-channel basis. https://github.com/thelounge/thelounge/issues/4805 |
02:23:01 | <fireonlive> | yeah, that issue doesn't read well :/ |
02:26:20 | <flashfire42|m> | How do you do that for matrix? |
02:30:04 | <@JAA> | I left a comment on the issue, too. |
02:31:36 | <@JAA> | flashfire42|m: I'm not sure. If someone knows how this works on Matrix (including where the fetching even happens: bridge, homeserver, client?), please tell. |
02:32:26 | <@JAA> | The immediate issue are the users of The Lounge. |
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03:04:19 | <nicolas17> | JAA: starting june 1, should we post a link daily on #archivebot to catch prefetchers? >:3 |
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03:54:22 | <@OrIdow6> | !tell whom archivebot already gets sitemaps |
03:54:22 | <eggdrop> | [tell] ok, I'll tell whom when they join next |
03:55:46 | <nicolas17> | wrong username? |
03:57:21 | <@OrIdow6> | Thanks |
03:57:32 | <@OrIdow6> | Not yet 30 and it must look like I'm going senile to you people |
04:02:32 | <@OrIdow6> | (REalized after I sent it that it was irrelevant anyhow, theyY |
04:02:39 | <@OrIdow6> | s/, theY// |
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04:03:37 | <eggdrop> | [tell] whom: [2024-05-24T03:54:22Z] <OrIdow6> archivebot already gets sitemaps |
04:03:39 | <whom> | clearing the tell :P |
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04:05:02 | <@OrIdow6> | It would have been way better to leave that in the queue for like 2 years or something |
04:05:14 | <@OrIdow6> | And confuse some people in the distant future |
04:05:17 | <fireonlive> | xP |
04:05:25 | <fireonlive> | i wonder what our longest tell record is |
04:17:11 | <@OrIdow6> | !tell whoom what is http://gyakorikerdesek.hu ? |
04:17:11 | <eggdrop> | [tell] ok, I'll tell whoom when they join next |
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04:59:43 | <thuban> | !remindme 1week upload game atsumaru data |
04:59:44 | <eggdrop> | [remind] ok, i'll remind you at 2024-05-31T00:00:00Z |
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16:02:50 | <Gooshka> | arkiver, JAA, c3manu, pokechu22: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.interfax.ru/amp/962194 - VK company (previously known as mail.ru group) will close ICQ messenger at 26.06.2024 |
16:07:00 | <Gooshka> | https://help.mail.ru/icq/channels/create - looks like ICQ has channels (like Telegram does). |
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16:22:01 | <@JAA> | Whoa, end of an era. |
16:22:24 | <@JAA> | Non-Google link: https://www.interfax.ru/amp/962194 |
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16:24:37 | <eggdrop> | [tell] whoom: [2024-05-24T04:17:11Z] <OrIdow6> what is http://gyakorikerdesek.hu ? |
16:25:29 | <whoom> | OrIdow6 Hungarian Q&A/forum site. Most of it is not saved on archive.org |
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16:26:56 | <fireonlive> | oh wow |
16:36:01 | <c3manu> | how dare they :-o |
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16:41:13 | <@arkiver> | damn |
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17:17:24 | <f_> | flashfire42|m: I believe element can disable link previews |
17:17:41 | <f_> | Not sure if the homeserver still ends up DDoSing links |
17:18:04 | <f_> | s/homeserver/participating homeservers/, s/ends/end/ |
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17:47:54 | <izzint> | hey |
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17:53:49 | <immibis> | JAA: I thought amp links were google |
17:56:51 | <fireonlive> | only on google's domain |
17:57:46 | <fireonlive> | cloudflare also host(s|ed) an amp cache i think |
17:58:02 | <fireonlive> | but otherwise it's just a limited spec anyone can serve |
17:59:58 | <fireonlive> | the (bad) thought was that google would proxy & cache the pages for people because they already have a connection to google so it'll be faster and google would have this amp spec which limited things like size/js/tags/etc |
18:00:13 | <fireonlive> | and they forced it upon publishers by requiring amp to be featured in google news iirc |
18:00:41 | <fireonlive> | "would be a shame if we stopped featuring your website on google how about that amp?" |
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19:29:06 | <immibis> | why don't they just make chrome proxy everything through Google servers.... |
20:04:03 | <masterx244|m> | <immibis> "why don't they just make..." <- https and if they would do it there would be lawsuits incoming lice ICBMs. |
20:04:10 | <masterx244|m> | *like |
20:10:36 | <@JAA> | I mean, they're working on the former problem (SXG). |
20:16:58 | <masterx244|m> | <JAA> "I mean, they're working on the..." <- the latter can hurt really hard though. piss off the european bureaucracy and you can kiss your cash buffers goodbye when there is a percentage of turnover punishment incoming |
20:17:13 | <@JAA> | :-) |
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21:02:36 | <Webuser874> | hi I don't know if this is the appropriate irc channel but I wanted to ask how archiveteam backs up the stuff archive.org |
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21:54:39 | <immibis> | it does not |
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22:32:18 | <Barto> | So i received some news that https://ftp.acc.umu.se/ will get replaced by https://mirror.accum.se/. It's a job too big for AB. Any ideas? |
22:33:02 | <Barto> | It may stay for a while, but distro mirrors will phase this out |
22:33:58 | <nicolas17> | looks like it's redirecting |
22:34:42 | <nicolas17> | so what is there to archive? |
22:34:57 | <nicolas17> | do you think the redirect may stop working in the future? |
22:35:56 | <Barto> | "Background: Umeå University has decided that non-official services are no longer allowed to exist as a sub domain to umu.se. As a consequence of this we are moving all services from the acc.umu.se domain." |
22:36:02 | <Barto> | "Official name changes from ftp.acc.umu.se to mirror.accum.se. The old host name will continue to work for quite some time (years), but new deployments should move to using a non-acc.umu.se name. Since we are lazy sysadmins, we have also registered the ac2.se (ACC=AC^2) domain and lots of aliases so ftp.ac2.se also works." |
22:36:05 | <@JAA> | Looks like only some things are redirecting, e.g. /Public/debian. |
22:36:38 | <nicolas17> | https://ftp.acc.umu.se/ home page took me to https://mirror.accum.se/ |
22:36:54 | <@JAA> | Huh, not here. |
22:37:19 | <nicolas17> | investigating |
22:40:41 | <nicolas17> | the answer is more cursed than I imagined |
22:41:00 | <nicolas17> | JAA: curl -v -H 'Pragma: no-cache' https://ftp.acc.umu.se/ |
22:41:52 | <@JAA> | Hmm |
22:42:51 | <@JAA> | Indeed, I see an Age header on the response without no-cache. |
22:43:08 | <@JAA> | But that's only a few minutes, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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23:59:56 | <@JAA> | All I'm seeing on there is mirrors. And package repos are usually widely mirrored. So not sure we want to do anything with it. |